Going Mid June. Am I the only one not purchasing Genie+ or ILL?

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Hello! I've been away for a number of years. Staying onsite in Mid June for 6 nights. Me, DH, 2 adult sons, and GF of one son. We used to visit The World fairly often when kids were younger. Not to brag, but I was a world champion fastpasser...So, now it's 2023. Things are vastly different. And more expensive. Am I the only person who will not be purchasing Genie+ or ILL? We plan to try to get VQ for Tron and GOG, but I cannot bring myself to pay $20 pp for an attraction! Or $35 pp per day! So, I am wondering if I am the only person out here who is just going to: arrive for EE and hit a popular ride, watch wait times throughout the day, and try to visit popular attractions nearer to closing. I can't be the only one, right???
 
We aren’t going in June (May) but we don’t plan on buying Genie plus or paying for any ILL either. We usually go mid summer. I would love to try it but just can’t pay that extra price.
 
Hello! I've been away for a number of years. Staying onsite in Mid June for 6 nights. Me, DH, 2 adult sons, and GF of one son. We used to visit The World fairly often when kids were younger. Not to brag, but I was a world champion fastpasser...So, now it's 2023. Things are vastly different. And more expensive. Am I the only person who will not be purchasing Genie+ or ILL? We plan to try to get VQ for Tron and GOG, but I cannot bring myself to pay $20 pp for an attraction! Or $35 pp per day! So, I am wondering if I am the only person out here who is just going to: arrive for EE and hit a popular ride, watch wait times throughout the day, and try to visit popular attractions nearer to closing. I can't be the only one, right???
We will be there in July and will only do Early and evening hours. We will not be at the parks that much since it will be really hot and we will have the grandkids 5 y/o and 1.5 y/o in the group. Besides the fact that I still haven't use Genie+ , I don't want to spend all day looking at my phone. I will however pay for avatar and also try to get the VQs. We want to spend time at the pool, and when at the parks, we also want to watch shows with AC.
 
I'll be there this Sat for 7 nights, 6 1/2 park days and will not buy Genie+ or ILL. I have been twice since they started and haven't used it either time. My son and his family have been once (on one of the busiest weeks in Sept. last year) and didn't buy it. I do fine without it, I ride what I want to ride. I do have PHs and I think that helps some and I don't mind waiting in line. I'm also not focused on seeing how many rides I can ride. We do go often (me more than my son) so we have a much more relaxed style than most. To be fair, we have always been sort of loosy goosy about it. Even when they had FP and FP+ we really didn't use them that much because we don't like to have to be anywhere at any certain time. We also don't make ADRs in advance, just day of.
 

We're going at the end of May/early June for 10 nights. We won't buy it every day, since it's such a long trip, and we will utilize EE and EEH when we can, but we absolutely will buy it at least a few days, mostly because I feel like trying to do HS on Memorial Day without it seems like asking for trouble, but also because afternoon stacking will work very nicely with the more "chill" park days we have planned. I make it a rule never to rope drop more than 2 days in a row, so G+ will allow us to get later starts on some days and not sacrifice low waits. I was queen of FP+ and while I'm obviously not thrilled about having to pay for something that was once free, we plan to take advantage of any tool we have because we hate waiting in lines period. I really feel for families with kids and larger groups navigating these prices but with only two people it's just not a pain point for us. The complaints about "looking at your phone all day" are way overblown imo, ftr it was never necessary back in FP+ days either especially if you knew the advanced jutsu. And that hasn't changed from everything I've been reading.

That said Tom Bricker over on Disney Tourist Blog has some really good touring strategies for not using G+ or ILL.
 
Hello! I've been away for a number of years. Staying onsite in Mid June for 6 nights. Me, DH, 2 adult sons, and GF of one son. We used to visit The World fairly often when kids were younger. Not to brag, but I was a world champion fastpasser...So, now it's 2023. Things are vastly different. And more expensive. Am I the only person who will not be purchasing Genie+ or ILL? We plan to try to get VQ for Tron and GOG, but I cannot bring myself to pay $20 pp for an attraction! Or $35 pp per day! So, I am wondering if I am the only person out here who is just going to: arrive for EE and hit a popular ride, watch wait times throughout the day, and try to visit popular attractions nearer to closing. I can't be the only one, right???
Here's my take:

1. the price probably won't be $35 in mid-June. The $35 price is Easter -week surge pricing. WDW has long raised prices Easter week. That said, the price for G+ may well be $29.

2. I'm just back, and did not buy any ILL's, but we skipped most of them. I do not think any attraction is worth $20. (Been on all multiple times.))

3. Here's where things get more complicated. I did feel G+ was worthwhile. The reality of WDW right now is that you either pay the extra fee, or you will not be able to go on many rides in the middle hours of the day. When I say middle of the day, =10am to 7pm.

In current WDW, it is hard to arrive for rope drop every morning. Possible, but hard to do, unless you really wake up early and hustle in the morning.

Where you can do well (no G+) is the extra PM hours for deluxe guests, if that is an option. (I'm guessing no.)

Anyhow, if you don't have G+, you are probably looking at 60 minute waits for many attractions between the hours of 11am and 5pm. With G+, between 8:40am-10:30 we did: Na'vi (arrived 8:40), safari (scanned pass 9:10am-on ride at 9:31, off ride at 9:54am), then we had a 10:25 pass for EE.

When we entered the queue for Na'vi, the standby wait was posted at 55minutes. When we got to the safari, the posted wait was 85 minutes.

Pick your poison. In the amount of time G+ covers 2-3 rides, people without G+ were still suck in line for their FIRST attraction (of the 8:40-10am time period). Also, by the time they got off the safari, the non-G+ folks faced long waits everywhere.

We did not buy G+ for HS. Instead, we did: walk-on TSM, short wait for MMRR, short wait for ToT. When we got off ToT though, the wait had jumped from 13 min to 55min! After ToT, we rode MF (as single riders/engineers). After that, we waited 2+ hours for Slinky. Brutal, but if we had gone to Slinky first, we would have waited at least 90 minutes, instead of covering 3 rides. We arrived at the 'start' of Early entry, but getting scanned into the park was VERY slow, so we spent almost all of the EE half hour waiting to enter the park. We covered 3rides between 7:55-9am, then MF 9:22-10:05am.
 
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We have been many times to WDW with young kids and teens. We were very good at utilizing Fastpass and then Fastpass+. We have a trip coming up in early June this year and we do not plan to buy ILL or Genie+. We will have a good strategy to hit the rides we want to and if there is one we will have to stand in line for, we will gladly do that. We enjoy having family chats while in line and try to make the most of the time together.

Honestly, one of my favorite times visiting WDW was in 2021 when Fastpass+ had not been brought back and Genie+ did not yet exist. It felt good to have everyone on the same playing field without having to dole out more money. And no worries about being on my phone to find the next pass. It made for better family interaction and conversations. And we still got to ride everything we wanted to and had an amazing time.
 
We were there last July but only bought Genie+ one day out of 14 and only 2 LL. We only bought these because I wasn't going to let my DH go to WDW for the first time since GE opened and not get on ROTR and MFSR. We rode both several times more but without paying extra
 







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