Girl Scout Leaders - Question

Melrosgirl

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My daughter's girl scout troop (brownies) is looking for a new leader. Right now there is no leader. What exactly would this involve? The organization makes it sound like it's a piece of cake, but I'm looking for real answers, lol.

How much planning for activities is really the leader's responsibility? I'm afraid of taking on this challenge and then not being able to keep up with it. I'm 50/50 on it right now. thanks!
 
It is not a "piece of cake". It is a committment to girls and their parents. A leader is 100% of the troop. Now you can have help, but it already sounds iffy with these girls parents. I would be leary. Why is the leader leaving? What about the co-leader?

If you do not have the time to be a leader, I would say pass on it. It is better for the girls to have someone that is ready to give it there all or have the troop end. ESP if NO PARENTS step up to help. That is not a troop I would want to lead.

I was a leader for awhile, then a co-leader for my older dd. Now with my younger dd I "filled in" as a co-leader for someone who really didn't want to do it. It was awful. Thankfully someone stepped in and saved the troop after that year. It was someone who loved "leading" and planning, etc...

Now we are in Texas and we are with an different, leader & co-leader. We only have 5 girls.
I help out and I am the cookie manager. I am happy doing just that.
 
Melrosgirl said:
My daughter's girl scout troop (brownies) is looking for a new leader. Right now there is no leader. What exactly would this involve? The organization makes it sound like it's a piece of cake, but I'm looking for real answers, lol.

How much planning for activities is really the leader's responsibility? I'm afraid of taking on this challenge and then not being able to keep up with it. I'm 50/50 on it right now. thanks!

My girls started Daisies this year and I was asked to co-lead the troop. I refused because I knew I would not be able to devote the amount of time and attention to the troop that it deserved. I did agree to be an adult volunteer, so I get to attend the meetings and do all the fun stuff with the girls, without all the added responsibility.

BTW - Please use washable paints when you do painting projects with 5 year olds!

Denae
 
Being a good leader is not easy at all and it takes time...

I was the co-leader for both of my girls troops...my role was to be the crowd controller, general helper with activities, and I was also the grocery shopper for trips/campouts.

Older DD had a super leader - this woman had things planned to a "t" and every moment was filled with activity. She had a craft ready to go as they came in, once everyone finished we did "circle time" to take care of business, then we had snack followed by another project for badge work. We did a TON of field trips, earned a lot of badges, etc. It was a blast for all involved.

Younger DD only did scouts for two years because they did NOTHING. Seriously, the girls would arrive and eat snack. Then the leader would talk to them FOREVER about one thing or another. Then maybe we'd do a project or maybe not. Huge discipline problems arose because the girls were expected to sit in chairs for an hour and a half. Anyway, that was the bad experience.

There is paper work involved as well which can be time consuming. It is very rewarding, but you really do have to give it your all. I know some troops aren't as busy as my older DD's was, and I think there's probably a "happy medium", but if I were going to lead a troop I'd want to do it with a gung-ho attitude. Maybe you could find someone who would truly share the duties with you...in my case neither leader wanted any more from me than what I gave....I did offer!

Good luck!
 

Also wanted to add you have to put up with all the "rules" from the Girl Scout Council.
Not there is anything "wrong" with rules, safety, etc...but it got to a point where I would like to scream...
 
I was actually a GS Leader. It is alot of work. Also it can be very cliquee. You have to train and meet monthly with other adults in your area. I found it took 2 hours for the Junior meeting 2 times a month. 4 hours of shopping for supplies. 10 hours a year to train if you want to do a good job. It is the hardest thing I have ever done. I did love the pay though. Lots of hugs and smiles. ;)
 
I started out being a parent volunteer and now I am leader to Cadets (12 girls which is the most in our service unit so I am honored :) ) and co-leader to Brownies and Juniors. I am also Cookie Mom this year. I think a big part of being successful is organization, delegating jobs, and having co-leaders and volunteers who help.

Yes, it's a lot of work, but training thru Council has helped and there are lots of resources online. I try to attend our Service unit meetings, too.

I would encourage you to get some Council training and ask to speak with leaders to see how they organize their meetings and maybe even a volunteer coordinator. Brownies focus on arts and crafts and other hands-on activities for their try-its and field trips. I think you'd really need parental involvement and ideally a co-leader to help out and in this respect you can possibly make lists for parents to take turns for providing snacks, who would be your second parent, who would assist with certain try-its, etc. It really works if you have everyone involved.


GL! :thumbsup2

ETA (edited to add): Here are some of my favorite GS links:

www.scoutingweb.com/scoutingweb/index.htm

http://www.neighborhood13-1.com/Leader_Lobby.html
 
I've been a cub scout leader and a girl scout leader (mostly older girls).

The funniest joke ever told is "It's only an hour a week!" Yeah, right. But I will say it's VERY rewarding.

My personal assessment of the time involved.

Meeting: 1 1/2 hours per week (This was for the girls 6th grade and older. And 1/2 hour was spent working with the younger girls we were partnered up with).

Service unit meeting 1 1/2 hour per month.

Paperwork averaged 1/2 hour per week, 2 hours a month.

Planning: Again, with an older troop, the girls did some of this. But based on my cub scout experience which was closer to your girls' ages, I took about 4-5 hours the beginning of the year to lay out a plan, then about an hour a month to be sure I had everything I needed. That was just for the meeting activities.

Non-meeting activities: This includes outings, campouts, thinking day, etc. These kinds of things tend to bunch up, but on average, if you have an active troop, you're going to spend at least one extra day a month on some kind of activity. As they get older, it becomes 2 days when they camp, and I tried to camp at least 3 times a year with my girls. Planning for those extra activities usually averaged 3 hours a month.

Training: Boy this one was varied, and was my main gripe with GSA. Just to be allowed to "officially" lead your girls, you needed 4 hours of "basic" training, and 4 hours of level specific (i.e. brownie, junior, etc.) training. Then if you want to camp with them, you need 1. camping, 2. outdoor cooking, and 3. First aid (unless another adult is certified). Each of those is a FULL weekend through my former council! So you've now given up 4 weekends that you could have been spending with your family or your scouts. And OBTW, you have to re-certify every two years, regardless of how often you scout camp! Luckily, my co-leader was camp certified, and I did the Red Cross first aid thing (one full day any way you slice it). Now I've been camping my entire adult life! I tried to get an option where experienced campers could do an overnight where they simply demonstrated their skills, but that wasn't possible. For Cub Scouts, that's what I did, but GSA wouldn't do it.

So throwing out the training requirement, I probably spent about 4 hours a week on scouting stuff. Some weeks it truly was just the 1 1/2 hours of meeting, but others it would end up being almost every non-work waking hour.

I did know what I was getting into, since I'd been the "responsible adult" for DDs troop long before I led it. And I finished my Cub Scout committment before taking on the GS troop.

I had to leave my girls behind when we moved here. DD hasn't wanted to re-join. She said it will just make her miss her friends from Md scouting. I can honestly say that I hear from all of those girls on a regular basis, and they all say how much they miss me. They ended up merged into a larger troop, but they don't do nearly as much.
 


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