Gift equitte/dilema?

As the above-quoted poster points out, the gift giver purchased what the girl requested. She didn't ask for B&BW lip glosses and bath gels; she didnt't specify any brand at all.
In all fairness, the kids don't fill out the gift requests. They are filled out by the volunteers. They have a small space for writing the request on the SA Angel Tree tags. It's possible that the child did request Bath & Body Works items but it got transcribed wrong. In the very least, it does show a preference for this brand of bath products just because of the gift card mentioned.
 
I would definitely get the brand requested. I really loved BBW products when I was a teenager. I think the recipient would have really appreciated the gift.
 
The recieving families are referred(by school system....usually administration, conselors, social workers, teachers and free lunch programs are used to determine need) to our county Christmas Cheer program where they are interviewed and screened independantly from school. The head of household is asked to fill out many forms including general request forms listing gender, sizes, special colors and any special requests. There is also a section to list "wishes" and explain what they do have....ex - have xbox but need new controller and games, wish for a new bike, wish for a bedding set. etc

Once approved by county, our school conselors go back to the organization and pick a few families (as many as they know they can comfortable give to). This year we were able to do 6 families....mostly Grandmothers raising grandchildren. A total of 14 adults and almost 30 children will have some sort of Christmas thanks to the generosity of our teachers, students and fellow families along with a lot of volunteering from the PTO.
My DD(9) came home after an assembly. There the students were told about the "ormanents on the wishing tree" and how it is for families right here at our own school. She was really impressed with the whole idea.

The families are contacted by the donors (in these cases our school concelors). The conselor calls the family and asks for general sizing and anything specific wants or needs with no promises made. One of our larger families specifically asked for socks, underwear and shoes for all children. Toys would be secondary. Shoes are hard to do for teens so gift cards are available. Another family who recently hit hard times (being sponsors in the past and now having to except help is a huge wake up) had more requests for toys, electronics and sports stuff. Its is hard if their kids were used to cell phones, kindles, iTouches, etc.....then when the iPods break and family cannot get a new one. Yeah kids are old enough to understand but at the same time its not their fault. The school was working with a special company who often donates larger items.

A Christmas tree is put in the office with "ornaments" listing age, gender, gift request. Like: 2yr old, boy, dump truck.......16 yr old girl, Old Navy Giftcard......6 yr old girl, shoe size 13, suede boots.

Teachers and families pick an ornament or two. (DH & I have a tradition since our first Christmas that instead of purchasing for each other, we pick 2 angels to buy for....depending on our budget).
Gifts and tags are due back at a certain date, groceries are purchased with funds raised at holiday concerts etc.

This is where the PTO comes in and is extremely helpful. I was able to volunteer 2 days this year. Gifts are sorted into family units (all family info is confidential from us....family is assigned a number - like 20 then A1 for first adult, A2 for second adult, children are C1, C2, C3 & C4 etc. Codes that only the conselors are privy to. In this particular case we were matching up the lists of requests/info on ornaments with the pile of gifts. When I had the gift of gloss/soaps in my hand and was matching it with family number another PTO member commented on the washes ,mentioning that her DD bought it at Five Below (new store opened in November) for her BFF. The conselor in charge was working on same family and saw that B&B Works was requested and wished that people would follow the intructions because that family could easily have gotten same thing at Five Below or Dollar General but shopping at B&B Works was probably not going to happen. She did not mean it in any condesending way, she is clear that she is always grateful for the support our school shows for each other.

So, long story....longer....I just wanted the thoughts of others here about the situation.....not that there is any wrong answers.
BTW, the child will recieve the gloss/washes that were donated.

Thnaks for all the input.
 

I consider a giftcard request to a place like B&BW reasonable because part of the fun is picking your own scent. I really don't like cinnamon scents or other 'spiced' scents; others may not like floral sets.
This is not a kid asking for a $200 giftcard to Best Buy. This is a girl asking for some a card to a store where, with coupons, one can do well with $25. I'd buy the giftcard & make sure there were coupons with it. I'd even talk to B&BW & see if they had any special coupons we could throw in.

I agree.

I kinda understand being put off by Angel Tree requests for gift cards but people have to remember this is a 13 yr old girl. What do most 13 yr old girls want to do very badly? Go to the mall. If this family is on an angel tree then more than likely this child doesn't get the luxory of going to the mall and getting something. She probably wants that experience very much. This is something most of us take for granted.

I don't feel the request was out of line. I would have gotten her exactly what she wanted and nothing else.
 
I agree.

I kinda understand being put off by Angel Tree requests for gift cards but people have to remember this is a 13 yr old girl. What do most 13 yr old girls want to do very badly? Go to the mall. If this family is on an angel tree then more than likely this child doesn't get the luxory of going to the mall and getting something. She probably wants that experience very much. This is something most of us take for granted.

I don't feel the request was out of line. I would have gotten her exactly what she wanted and nothing else.

I agree here, I rarely ever got to go to the mall as a teen. My grandparents raised me, and while they did a wonderful job, there was not room for THAT type of extravagance. While all my friends were wearing GUESS (tells my age for those who remember that:lmao:), I was wearing whatever Wal-Mart or K-Mart had on sale at the time. I won a $25 gift certificate at school one day (for an essay I did). It was for a store in the mall, and I was thrilled beyond belief when I got to go in there and pick out something. The experience was something my friends took for granted, but for me the experience was just as good as what I bought, which was a hideous art deco type sweater (yes it was the late 80's early 90's :rotfl2:). I would have gotten the child the gift card, maybe this feeling is what she wanted, more than just the bath stuff it'self.

wow-2xl is a big gal-and your Mother knows it
Wow! Just Wow! :sad2:
 
If we pull a tag, it is win the intent to fulfill the wish as close to exact as possible. Our tree suggest not to exceed $25. I can't justify being cheap for the reasons you describe. I pull a tag with intent to spend between $20 and $25 and would not go to a discount store such as five below.

Last year, my tag asked for a makeup kit (I think that was it). So I found a big one at Marshall's. Then we worried if this was a brand specific item. I googled it and my heart sank. I asked on the DIS of where to look for this item and Amazon was suggested. I found the item and ordered it. Had it not arrived on time, I would have sent in the substitute. But I was ecstatic when it showed up. While it was certainly not my intent to sub--if it became NECESSARY due to my oversight, that is what would have had to have been done.

It sucks that someone would go out of their way to NOT honor a request that is reasonable. It is understandable if the request is unreasonable per the parameters (we saws several game system requests and northface jacket requests--these are usually the tags that are left close to the deadline). But bath and body works is NOT unreasonable. It is a case of "it is the thought that counts" not applying.

There were tags on our tree that were nonspecific if folks want more freedom in giving the person "whatever".

I think it was crappy.

But playing Devil's advocate--Maybe the person who bought just didn't know or maybe it was a last minute tag. Highhly unlikely.
 
Of course my mother gets my wife something else also. My wife wears a 2XL and mom always gets her a sweater or shirt in petite medium. It is very obvious that not even our daughter would wear a petite medium, let alone my wife. Perhaps one of you girls could explain the thought process of my mother, because I don't understand it at all.

it could be she thinks like my dad. every birthday and christmas, he would buy a bunch of size 4-6 frilly nightgowns or for my flannel nightgown mom (who, precancer, wore an xl).
in his eyes, she was still the beautiful, petite woman he married :love: (btw, she is now cancer free, and actually wears about a size 6.....i wonder if he'll buy all size 2's this year;)).
maybe in your mom's eyes, your wife is a perfect size 8 because all she sees is a beautiful woman.
 
But playing Devil's advocate--Maybe the person who bought just didn't know or maybe it was a last minute tag. Highhly unlikely.

It's very possible the person thought it was a fair substitute. My mother and her husband (70s) pulled a sneaker tag off a tree. She asked for advice on 'what to get' and since brand wasn't specified I told her to go to ask the sales clerk *what is popular* with teen boys. They had very good intentions but I can only imagine what they would have picked if left to their own devices.
 
I agree.

I kinda understand being put off by Angel Tree requests for gift cards but people have to remember this is a 13 yr old girl. What do most 13 yr old girls want to do very badly? Go to the mall. If this family is on an angel tree then more than likely this child doesn't get the luxory of going to the mall and getting something. She probably wants that experience very much. This is something most of us take for granted.

I don't feel the request was out of line. I would have gotten her exactly what she wanted and nothing else.

Same here..our church has more than one thing thet purchases gifts for kids. We have the Salvation Army tree and we also do Angel Tree which buys gifts for children of inmates. We also take special offerings and give food certificates to needy families. I do notice that the cards for older kids tend to be taken last since they are harder to buy for. If I chose the 13 yr old girl who wanted a B&BW gift card, I'd assume she'd also want other B&BW items and would get everything from that store. My closest B&BW store is over an hour away, so if I wasn't going out of town I'd just shop online..they always have nice specials on line..they recently had the buy $10 worth and get a free item up to $13.00 deal and that would have gone a long way to finding things the girl would like.
 
While I would have gotten some B&BW stuff plus the gift card, I did read the request as "any" lipgloss, "any" lotion plus a B&BW gift card. I don't think you mentioned, but did the donor also include a B&BW gift card?

My daughter picked an angel off of the tree at school. The angel asked for a "dessert maker" so she could make desserts for her family. I asked here on the DIS if this was a specific item or a general request. And apparently there is a dessert maker that makes ice cream type treats. However, DISers said that this item was terrible. So I read reviews on Amazon and every single one was bad. So I ended up purchasing a cake pop type cooker that had removable metal plates where you could make cupcakes, cookies, brownies and cake pops. I thought it was a good substitution and it was considerably more expensive than the original requested item. Now I feel the child might be disappointed because I didn't buy the requested item. :confused:

Maggie
 
Um, rude much?

You dont get what I am saying

The OP asked-My wife wears a 2XL and mom always gets her a sweater or shirt in petite medium. It is very obvious that not even our daughter would wear a petite medium, let alone my wife. Perhaps one of you girls could explain the thought process of my mother, because I don't understand it at all.

His Mother is prurposely buying his wife small clothes to embaress her
 
DD breaks out in a rash with certain brands so yes I would give the brand they asked for. Not like they asked for something outragous.
Possible -- but I suspect people with allergies wouldn't have requested lotions of any type. And B&BW, being particularly known for their scents, isn't likely to be allergy-friendly.
You can also find alot of merchant GCs at grocery stores and places like CVS so you don't even need to go to that particular store to get them.
Yeah, you could go to Harris Teeter, CVS, and a couple other places 'til you happened to find a B&BW gift card. I still say I'd bypass it, thinking it's too specific, thinking I'd have to make a special trip to get that card.

Another issue with gift cards and teens is that they are almost certain to have to put in some of their own money to complete the transaction. Think about it: Say you give a $20 gift card. The child chooses a couple items, and it adds up to $22.50. She has to have $2.50 of her own money . . . on the same day that she happened to have a ride to the mall. Having been a poor kid, I can tell you that those planets didn't align for me all that often. When I was a teen I usually had less than a dollar to my name, and I couldn't ask my mom for a couple bucks -- that never, ever happened.

Well, that or she'd have to put one item back, which'd mean she'd still have $3 left on her gift card, and it might be months 'til she'd get a chance to use it.

I remain unimpressed with gift cards as gifts for needy teens. I still maintain I would've chosen a different angel and avoided the situation.
The recieving families are referred(by school system....usually administration, conselors, social workers, teachers and free lunch programs are used to determine need) to our county Christmas Cheer program where they are interviewed and screened independantly from school. The head of household is asked to fill out many forms including general request forms listing gender, sizes, special colors and any special requests. There is also a section to list "wishes" and explain what they do have....ex - have xbox but need new controller and games, wish for a new bike, wish for a bedding set. etc

Once approved by county, our school conselors go back to the organization and pick a few families (as many as they know they can comfortable give to). This year we were able to do 6 families....mostly Grandmothers raising grandchildren. A total of 14 adults and almost 30 children will have some sort of Christmas thanks to the generosity of our teachers, students and fellow families along with a lot of volunteering from the PTO.
My DD(9) came home after an assembly. There the students were told about the "ormanents on the wishing tree" and how it is for families right here at our own school. She was really impressed with the whole idea.

The families are contacted by the donors (in these cases our school concelors). The conselor calls the family and asks for general sizing and anything specific wants or needs with no promises made. One of our larger families specifically asked for socks, underwear and shoes for all children. Toys would be secondary. Shoes are hard to do for teens so gift cards are available. Another family who recently hit hard times (being sponsors in the past and now having to except help is a huge wake up) had more requests for toys, electronics and sports stuff. Its is hard if their kids were used to cell phones, kindles, iTouches, etc.....then when the iPods break and family cannot get a new one. Yeah kids are old enough to understand but at the same time its not their fault. The school was working with a special company who often donates larger items.

A Christmas tree is put in the office with "ornaments" listing age, gender, gift request. Like: 2yr old, boy, dump truck.......16 yr old girl, Old Navy Giftcard......6 yr old girl, shoe size 13, suede boots.

Teachers and families pick an ornament or two. (DH & I have a tradition since our first Christmas that instead of purchasing for each other, we pick 2 angels to buy for....depending on our budget).
Gifts and tags are due back at a certain date, groceries are purchased with funds raised at holiday concerts etc.

This is where the PTO comes in and is extremely helpful. I was able to volunteer 2 days this year. Gifts are sorted into family units (all family info is confidential from us....family is assigned a number - like 20 then A1 for first adult, A2 for second adult, children are C1, C2, C3 & C4 etc. Codes that only the conselors are privy to. In this particular case we were matching up the lists of requests/info on ornaments with the pile of gifts. When I had the gift of gloss/soaps in my hand and was matching it with family number another PTO member commented on the washes ,mentioning that her DD bought it at Five Below (new store opened in November) for her BFF. The conselor in charge was working on same family and saw that B&B Works was requested and wished that people would follow the intructions because that family could easily have gotten same thing at Five Below or Dollar General but shopping at B&B Works was probably not going to happen. She did not mean it in any condesending way, she is clear that she is always grateful for the support our school shows for each other.

So, long story....longer....I just wanted the thoughts of others here about the situation.....not that there is any wrong answers.
BTW, the child will recieve the gloss/washes that were donated.

Thnaks for all the input.
That's how your one organization handles angel trees. These trees are all over the place now, and different organizations handle them differently. For example, at our church the pastor himself "okays" families, and he keeps their identity secret, telling the donors only perhaps, "The family has two boys ages 8 and 10, they wear these sizes and are interested in these items." At our school, a club offered an angel tree. They got the names from an Hispanic organization in town, and I don't know how those names were screened. My oldest took part in a service project at another church, and the people whom they helped were referred through the Health Department. I know of another church -- a rather wealthy church -- that sponsors a senior citizens' angel tree; I think their pastor comes up with the names himself, but it's more about helping people who are lonely than about people who have no money -- they emphasize that they'd like people to include these seniors in their family gatherings, give them a small something rather than take on the gift-giving tasks. I've seen people at the mall with an angel tree, and I have no idea how they get their names.

If you have questions about a certain charity's screening process, it's okay to ask how they get the names . . . and if you're not comfortable with the way they manage things, it's okay to move on to another group. Personally, we tend to donate through our church; we support the Baptist Sharing House because we trust that our pastoral staff has identified groups that are doing the most good in our area. I trust that they're being good stewards of our donations.
My daughter picked an angel off of the tree at school. The angel asked for a "dessert maker" so she could make desserts for her family. I asked here on the DIS if this was a specific item or a general request. And apparently there is a dessert maker that makes ice cream type treats. However, DISers said that this item was terrible. So I read reviews on Amazon and every single one was bad. So I ended up purchasing a cake pop type cooker that had removable metal plates where you could make cupcakes, cookies, brownies and cake pops. I thought it was a good substitution and it was considerably more expensive than the original requested item. Now I feel the child might be disappointed because I didn't buy the requested item.
I think that sounds fine. If you said "ice cream maker", I'd think of ice cream treats . . . but if you said "dessert maker", I'd think of one of those countertop appliances that makes miniature cupcakes or brownies. I don't know if that's what the child would've thought, but it's where my mind goes.

I'd have chosen that angel because it sounds like an easy wish to fulfill -- it gives plenty of lattitude for choosing the item that's on sale, and it means I could pick it up at Target or Walmart or I could order it from Amazon. It's not overly specific, doesn't mean I must visit one specific store. I'd also have packaged it up in a pretty gift basket with a variety of cake/brownie mixes, icings, sprinkles and chocolate chips, a spatula, and a big bow. Oh, and some cute small plates for serving the desserts.

Just for the record, for various reasons, I don't always get my own children exactly the item they've requested. To give an example, my girls both expressed an interest in having an iPad for Christmas. That's not happening, and to avoid unrealistic expectations I told them that iPads just aren't in the budget. My oldest, however, is getting a laptop for college (and half a dozen accessories to go with it). It cost more than the iPad would've, but it's what she really needs -- I don't expect her to be disappointed. My youngest is getting absolutely nothing electronic, but I think she'll be pleased with the things she's getting.
His Mother is prurposely buying his wife small clothes to embaress her
Yeah, that sounds like the most likely reason. I'd be interested to know if Mom is passive-aggressive in other ways. If so, I'd be sure of her too-small-size motivation.
 
I attend church where 50% of our congregation is low income and possibly on these angel trees. I can tell you that those who truly get nothing else for Christmas would be happy with any brand of lotion or lip gloss. Since she didn't specific I see no issue with that. I would question more why the gift card wasn't included...at least a $5 or so value one.

Then again I get a bit concerned with gift cards, as others have said, usually more $ has to go with them or parents don't have transportation to get their kids to that particular store. I know for my nieces and nephews who are low income I always bought gift cards from stores they could walk to.
 
Wow... that was incredibly rude.

Disagree -- not that I am expert on women's fashions, but there is a noticeale difference between those two sizes.

FWIW, I think his mother was just being cheap, which is too bad...
 
To answer the original question: Yes, you should get the person exactly what they are asking for. Especially if you're buying for someone you don't know, and they were required to write a list asking specifically for what they want.

If you are unable to buy someone what they want, then don't pick them. Let someone else pick their name off the tree.

diznee25
 
My mother LOVES Bath and Bodyworks. She brags all the time how she uses nothing else but Bath and Bodyworks. She even brags about Bath and Bodyworks while my wife is opening her Dollar Store body lotion garbage that my mother gets her.

Tried to get her just not to get us anything for Christmas without actually saying, "you could save yet another $1 because we throw it all away...."

Of course my mother gets my wife something else also. My wife wears a 2XL and mom always gets her a sweater or shirt in petite medium. It is very obvious that not even our daughter would wear a petite medium, let alone my wife. Perhaps one of you girls could explain the thought process of my mother, because I don't understand it at all.

Obviously your mother does not like your wife and uses her gifts to show it. I would be tempted to start buying your mother size 2xl items and dollar store products until she gets the hint. If that is going too far for you, make sure your wife tells her that it is not her size and asks for the receipt so she can return it for the proper size.
 
You dont get what I am saying

The OP asked-My wife wears a 2XL and mom always gets her a sweater or shirt in petite medium. It is very obvious that not even our daughter would wear a petite medium, let alone my wife. Perhaps one of you girls could explain the thought process of my mother, because I don't understand it at all.

His Mother is prurposely buying his wife small clothes to embaress her

Oh I totally understood what you were saying you just chose to put it very rudely and I'm not the only one who took it that way.
 





New Posts










Save Up to 30% on Rooms at Walt Disney World!

Save up to 30% on rooms at select Disney Resorts Collection hotels when you stay 5 consecutive nights or longer in late summer and early fall. Plus, enjoy other savings for shorter stays.This offer is valid for stays most nights from August 1 to October 11, 2025.
CLICK HERE













DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest

Back
Top