GF direct over Riviera direct is a no brainer

[havoc315]

No one would dispute that it WAS in the 190’s prior to going back into active sales.

You did say 190-200 “still” though. Which is not the case.

I recently closed on a resale VGF I bought in the 140’s.

Correct... if someone bought direct now, and then had to rapidly sell.. the loss at GFV and RIV would be very similar.

In the medium term -- Impossible to know. But likely the 2 resort will behave similarly.

In 2055 and later, it is likely Riviera will have far better re-sale value than GFV, as buyers start looking at years remaining.

So yes, if we are going to make sure buyers have the whole picture... that's the whole picture.

 

[RamblinWreck]

It’s interesting that RIV is now outselling VGF.

There must be a whole lot of suckers out there!

 

[NVDISFamily]

It’s interesting that RIV is now outselling VGF.

There must be a whole lot of suckers out there!

Yep. Guilty as charged.

 

[havoc315]

It’s interesting that RIV is now outselling VGF.

There must be a whole lot of suckers out there!

I do wonder what the main driver is., though there can be more than one factor at play.
- With incentives, RIV is still a bit cheaper than GFV. And for many buyers, that alone may be enough of a a factor -- give me the cheapest direct points.
- 6 additional years at RIV could be a factor for buyers
- The room types of RIV may be more appealing to more buyers than the Deluxe Resort Studios at GFV.
- And just maybe, more people just prefer Riivera as a resort, the skyliner, the location. the resort itself.

Though I suspect the sales would reverse if GFV and RIV were priced the same. I do suspect that more buyers (though certainly not universal) would prefer a Magic Kingdom monorail over an Epcot skyliner.

But regardless... clearly it isn't a no-brainer. They are probably the two nicest DVC resorts, and that's reflected in the sales being very close to each other.

 

[TraderStitch]

As a July purchaser of Riviera, we don't foresee MK being our end all regarding parks we want to go to. I think many are in the same boat actually. Why go VGF and only have 1 park close by?

 

[Frugal Fairy Tales]

This thread is selling me on Riviera direct. LOL

 

[JoeDisney247365]

This thread is selling me on Riviera direct. LOL

 

[Sandisw]

I do wonder what the main driver is., though there can be more than one factor at play.
- With incentives, RIV is still a bit cheaper than GFV. And for many buyers, that alone may be enough of a a factor -- give me the cheapest direct points.
- 6 additional years at RIV could be a factor for buyers
- The room types of RIV may be more appealing to more buyers than the Deluxe Resort Studios at GFV.
- And just maybe, more people just prefer Riivera as a resort, the skyliner, the location. the resort itself.

Though I suspect the sales would reverse if GFV and RIV were priced the same. I do suspect that more buyers (though certainly not universal) would prefer a Magic Kingdom monorail over an Epcot skyliner.

But regardless... clearly it isn't a no-brainer. They are probably the two nicest DVC resorts, and that's reflected in the sales being very close to each other.

The other piece that could play a role is that with so many resort studios at VGF, it may be easier to get at 7 months vs sV studios at RIV ..which are less points.

So, maybe that is playing a role as well. But I agree they are two of the nicest resorts and good choices.

 

[havoc315]

As a July purchaser of Riviera, we don't foresee MK being our end all regarding parks we want to go to. I think many are in the same boat actually. Why go VGF and only have 1 park close by?

If I was arguing in favor of the GFV location:
- Magic Kingdom is the classic traditional and timeless park, with more attractions than the other 3 parks combined..
- Ending a night with fireworks over the castle is something that never grows old
- For younger families and children, Magic Kingdom is the best park.
-monorail or walking to the best park Disney has..

Arguing in favor of the RIV location:
- Easy access to 2 parks, not just 1.
- For adults and older families, Epcot and DHS may actually offer more than Magic Kingdom
- Epcot festivals... going back and forth to Epcot during the day for Food and Wine, being able to casually stroll International Showcase every evening..
- Riviera can give the feeling of being "away" from the craziness of the theme parks, yet still accessible in minutes from Riviera
- Bus service from Riviera to Magic Kingdom is better than GFV bus service to DHS

I don't think 1 location is inherently superior to the other, but it really does come down to personal preference.

 

[havoc315]

The other piece that could play a role is that with so many resort studios at VGF, it may be easier to get at 7 months vs sV studios at RIV ..which are less points.

So, maybe that is playing a role as well. But I agree they are two of the nicest resorts and good choices.

... or maybe... it's a matter of MK area being saturated in recent years. RIV is the first Epcot area DVC to open up in 30 years. In the last 10 years, you've had 5 DVCs and DVC expansions at MK.

 

[Sandisw]

... or maybe... it's a matter of MK area being saturated in recent years. RIV is the first Epcot area DVC to open up in 30 years. In the last 10 years, you've had 5 DVCs and DVC expansions at MK.

Yesh,, a little more than 10 years but other than RIV it has been all MK area.

You are right it is an Epcot area choice and possible the only one for a while.

 

[kboo]

People are currently paying upward of $20 per point to rent DVC points for a single trip...and still saving money vs paying hotel rates. As long as WDW remains a premier vacation destination, there will absolutely be people looking for cheaper ways to visit. Even if that means staying at Riviera every single time. That inherent demand for WDW accommodations is going to keep resale prices from ever cratering.

If the two resorts' resale price is $20 off, all it would take is a rental at that rate to "make up" that difference, no? And because not all SAPs can book Riviera, I think Riviera points will also rent at a premium. (I just tried to book some dates at 8 mo and there are gaps already in the standard view rooms)

As a July purchaser of Riviera, we don't foresee MK being our end all regarding parks we want to go to. I think many are in the same boat actually. Why go VGF and only have 1 park close by?

Also - and no knock to MK resorts because we also own at VGF and BLT - MK feels really far away from everything else. I love staying there when going to MK because it's like a bubble within a bubble.

If I was arguing in favor of the GFV location:
- Magic Kingdom is the classic traditional and timeless park, with more attractions than the other 3 parks combined..
- Ending a night with fireworks over the castle is something that never grows old
- For younger families and children, Magic Kingdom is the best park.
-monorail or walking to the best park Disney has..

Arguing in favor of the RIV location:
- Easy access to 2 parks, not just 1.
- For adults and older families, Epcot and DHS may actually offer more than Magic Kingdom
- Epcot festivals... going back and forth to Epcot during the day for Food and Wine, being able to casually stroll International Showcase every evening..
- Riviera can give the feeling of being "away" from the craziness of the theme parks, yet still accessible in minutes from Riviera
- Bus service from Riviera to Magic Kingdom is better than GFV bus service to DHS

I don't think 1 location is inherently superior to the other, but it really does come down to personal preference.

100% agree with you on all points. We are right now on the cusp of MK v HS being the kids' favorite park, thanks to SWGE, Toy Story Land, RNRC, ToT, MMRR. A few short years ago we would spend a half day at HS, if that, and now it's multiple days.

 

[NVDISFamily]

The latest DVC Fan YouTube video is up, and our favorite topic (RVA vs VGF) is the first topic of the video. Always love the content from Pete and his crew.

https://dvcfan.com/2022/08/15/dvc-show-this-or-that-disney-vacation-club-edition/

I was a little surprised at the result

 

[scoobdoo]

The latest DVC Fan YouTube video is up, and our favorite topic (RVA vs VGF) is the first topic of the video. Always love the content from Pete and his crew.

https://dvcfan.com/2022/08/15/dvc-show-this-or-that-disney-vacation-club-edition/

I was a little surprised at the result

I just can't imagine anyone liking VGF more than RIV. I guess there really is no accounting for taste.

 

[NVDISFamily]

I just can't imagine anyone liking VGF more than RIV. I guess there really is no accounting for taste.

VGF is not bad at all. I just love RVA a good bit more

VGF has awesome grounds and overall selection of food on the resort alone I would say favors VGF by a slight margin. RVA needs a sit down mid-price option.

RVA wins for us based on charm/theme (we like that it’s a bit more subtle than VGF), rooms, and location (two parks, EPCOT area, etc.).

 

[RoseGold]

Why go VGF and only have 1 park close by?

I guess you could go RIV and have zero parks close by? LOL Or just stay in the moderate next door.

 

[Nursemanit]

I guess you could go RIV and have zero parks close by? LOL Or just stay in the moderate next door.

She said it - not me this time

 

[TinkB278]

VGF is not bad at all. I just love RVA a good bit more

VGF has awesome grounds and overall selection of food on the resort alone I would say favors VGF by a slight margin. RVA needs a sit down mid-price option.

RVA wins for us based on charm/theme (we like that it’s a bit more subtle than VGF), rooms, and location (two parks, EPCOT area, etc.).

I agree needs one more mid priced restaurant. The dining there is really limited.

 

[Nursemanit]

I agree needs one more mid priced restaurant. The dining there is really limited.

They have sebastians

 

[TraderStitch]

I guess you could go RIV and have zero parks close by? LOL Or just stay in the moderate next door.

I guess Epcot and HS are no longer parks?

Yes yes, let your Riviera hate flow through you. lol