Getting serious about direct - CCV or Poly?

Brittleebee

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I am point poor once again and really need points for an upcoming stay within my 7 mo booking window. This combined with the upcoming price increase has me getting serious about a DVC direct purchase. I don’t have a resort preference as we switch around constantly and hardly ever use our 11 mo priority booking window.

A few considerations:
I do need larger rooms on average. I rarely use my points for studios.
I have stayed at both Poly and CCV and like them fairly equally.
I am a bit of a point miser.

Although I would really like 150 points, I am more comfortable purchasing 100 right now. Someone tell me why I should purchase 150. 🤣

What would you do if you were me?
 
Looking at your considerations...

Larger rooms meaning 1B or larger? Or do you mean actual sq footage for the rooms.
- CCV 1/2Bs are smaller, or maybe the smallest, throughout DVC
- CCV has the only 3BR between these options

"I am a bit of a point miser" screams stay away from Poly.
- Point charts are a complete separator of these two specific resorts
- 150 won't go very far at Poly unfortunately

CCV all the way in my view. Good luck either way!
 
Looking at your considerations...

Larger rooms meaning 1B or larger? Or do you mean actual sq footage for the rooms.
- CCV 1/2Bs are smaller, or maybe the smallest, throughout DVC
- CCV has the only 3BR between these options

"I am a bit of a point miser" screams stay away from Poly.
- Point charts are a complete separator of these two specific resorts
- 150 won't go very far at Poly unfortunately

CCV all the way in my view. Good luck either way!
This was my thought as well, Poly is one of the most point hungry resorts in all of DVC, maybe even the most. If you've already decided you need direct points, I'd go with CCV assuming you're not open to other direct resorts at this time as well.
 
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I am point poor once again and really need points for an upcoming stay within my 7 mo booking window. This combined with the upcoming price increase has me getting serious about a DVC direct purchase. I don’t have a resort preference as we switch around constantly and hardly ever use our 11 mo priority booking window.

A few considerations:
I do need larger rooms on average. I rarely use my points for studios.
I have stayed at both Poly and CCV and like them fairly equally.
I am a bit of a point miser.

Although I would really like 150 points, I am more comfortable purchasing 100 right now. Someone tell me why I should purchase 150. 🤣

What would you do if you were me?
Looking at your considerations...

Larger rooms meaning 1B or larger? Or do you mean actual sq footage for the rooms.
- CCV 1/2Bs are smaller, or maybe the smallest, throughout DVC
- CCV has the only 3BR between these options

"I am a bit of a point miser" screams stay away from Poly.
- Point charts are a complete separator of these two specific resorts
- 150 won't go very far at Poly unfortunately

CCV all the way in my view. Good luck either way!
This was my thought as well, Poly is the one of the most point hungry resorts in all of DVC, maybe even the most. If you've already decided you need direct points, I'd go with CCV assuming you're not open to other direct resorts at this time as well.
Agree with all of the above.
CCV for the win, or even BLT if you just want some SAP+ points, but for the small difference in price (dues) from BLT to CCV and you like CCV, I’d just go that route.
 

Do you already have some direct points that the 100 points would add to? If not, then I'd either go with 150 direct points or just do resale. The cost spread for resale and direct Copper Creek is pretty big still. If you aren't getting the member benefits, I am not sure I see the value in getting 100 direct points except for the ability to use them at any resort. However you mentioned you don't stay in studios and 100 points doesn't go far for 1 bedrooms. Where do you already own? Do you have Copper Creek or Poly points already?
 
CCV over Poly if you want your points to go farther and especially with larger rooms.

CCV basically has a 2042 points chart as it nearly mirrors BRV, but will last decades longer (in fact, CCV goes until 2068 while Poly is 2066).

Poly is gorgeous (so is CCV!) but those Poly point charts are serious for the larger rooms. CCV does not have view categories which makes it easier to just level project for what you'll need instead of hoping for the lower priced room views and having to come up with more points for that stay you wanted if the lower cost rooms fill up too quickly.

150 pts direct at CCV (current incentives end in a few weeks - Feb 9th maybe?) will get you the best incentive rate of $26/pt discount. Then at 150 points level you can get Magical Beginnings for another $20/pt discount (if you don't need the first UY's pts). Magical Beginnings is not available below 150 pts. Could also use your Disney Visa Premiere for an additional ~$4/pt off. That would be $205/pt for 150 pts after using all three discount opportunities.
 
CCV over Poly if you want your points to go farther and especially with larger rooms.

CCV basically has a 2042 points chart as it nearly mirrors BRV, but will last decades longer (in fact, CCV goes until 2068 while Poly is 2066).

Poly is gorgeous (so is CCV!) but those Poly point charts are serious for the larger rooms. CCV does not have view categories which makes it easier to just level project for what you'll need instead of hoping for the lower priced room views and having to come up with more points for that stay you wanted if the lower cost rooms fill up too quickly.

150 pts direct at CCV (current incentives end in a few weeks - Feb 9th maybe?) will get you the best incentive rate of $26/pt discount. Then at 150 points level you can get Magical Beginnings for another $20/pt discount (if you don't need the first UY's pts). Magical Beginnings is not available below 150 pts. Could also use your Disney Visa Premiere for an additional ~$4/pt off. That would be $205/pt for 150 pts after using all three discount opportunities.
Is magical beginnings offered for CCV rn?
 
Yeah...

- Poly is more points per room than CCV...by a lot. (It also has bigger studios).
- Poly has slightly more one bedrooms (one-bedrooms are in the tower only) and CCV has slightly more two-bedrooms (I'm not a huge fan of the tower but love the original Poly longhouses, which are studio only)
- If you're buying direct, I think it would be a mistake to only get 100 points (better incentives at 150, also member extras).
- If you're buying resale, you can probably get CCV for $130pp (if you look) and Poly for about $160pp (if you look).
- If you're young, CCV has a couple more years on its contract life.
- I'd say that Poly now is fully built out--a line of construction from the TTC over to the GF. There's places around WL for nearby expansion, even beyond LSL. So it's possible that there will be more interesting things coming to the CCV neighborhood in future years. I don't think much more will be build around Poly due to limited space.
- Poly can be difficult to navigate during Florida rainstorms. But you can get to every thing you need to get to (laundry, food, convenience store, etc.) at CCV through indoor walkways.
-There are more food options at Poly. I think the Quick Service is generally better at WL. The Table Service is better at Poly.
- Poly has a lot of people visiting the resort as tourists (who aren't staying there), and WL/CCV has very, very little of that.
- Poly has boats, monorails, walking paths, and buses to get to parks. CCV has boats and busses only, which IMO is its biggest negative.
- Lastly, the Christmas displays at WL/CCV are among the best on property.

But basically, these are my two favorite resorts in Florida. I prefer Poly. But I'm staying at CCV next month 100% because of the point chart difference. Jan and Sep are idea months, point-wise, for Poly. CCV is reasonable all year round.
 
Agree with everyone else. Seems like CCV is the winner here. The only thing I can think to add would be if the CCV 1 BR isn't quite big enough. Some people would feel like the PIT 1 BRs with 3 sleeping surfaces and 2 bathrooms would keep them from needing 2 BRs at CCV. But, the points required between the two is also pretty comparable. PIT Resort view 1 BRs range from 208 to 496 points/week. CCV 2 BRs range from 255 to 464 points/week. And, if you can't manage to get the resort view at PIT, you're going to be stuck with the pricier preferred or theme park view.

Keep in mind the current "flash sale" at CCV ends 2/9. And, 150 points is the sweet spot for incentives - you'll only get a $18/point incentive if you do 100 points, but it jumps up to $26/point if buy 150 points (and nothing higher after that). And, if you by chance have a February UY, get your guide on the phone now so you can get full 2025 UY points (and magical beginnings on those points if you want it - I would).
 
Unless I misunderstood, the OP does not care about either as a home resort. These are blue card sleep-around points. I'm not sure if that changes the bottom-line at all, but it might.
 
What would you do if you were me?
Honestly..Neither.

First I would do an internal analysis on why I’m running out of points. Is this needed points reservation a one off fluke? If so, rent the points.

If just want more points and want direct for speedy access: CCV while it’s offered. (I feel for more popular DVC member travel dates in the year, 11 month priority is better to have here over PVB).

100 vs 150. You already have points. This all comes down to wanting all direct has to currently offer or not.
 
Honestly..Neither.

First I would do an internal analysis on why I’m running out of points. Is this needed points reservation a one off fluke? If so, rent the points.

If just want more points and want direct for speedy access: CCV while it’s offered. (I feel for more popular DVC member travel dates in the year, 11 month priority is better to have here over PVB).

100 vs 150. You already have points. This all comes down to wanting all direct has to currently offer or not.

Honestly..Neither.

First I would do an internal analysis on why I’m running out of points. Is this needed points reservation a one off fluke? If so, rent the points.

If just want more points and want direct for speedy access: CCV while it’s offered. (I feel for more popular DVC member travel dates in the year, 11 month priority is better to have here over PVB).

100 vs 150. You already have points. This all comes down to wanting all direct has to currently offer or not.
Great points. Running out of points is a constant issue for me. It was always the plan to get more, but every time I try to push the button on direct, I pause because resale is so tempting.
 
Running out of points is a constant issue for me. It was always the plan to get more, but every time I try to push the button on direct, I pause because resale is so tempting.
In this case: If feel now is the time, (and knowing prices on the rise), go for it!

Still say CCV for reasons mentioned. You are rarely an 11 month booker, but CCV is better imo for home resort priority.

Yes, we all usually go resale in these cases!

Again choose the amount of points for what you want out of being direct. Go all in with 150. Taking the plunge…enjoy all you can do with it.

I’m DVC-Y. Don’t you want to be DVC-Y too?!?!
 
Unless I misunderstood, the OP does not care about either as a home resort. These are blue card sleep-around points. I'm not sure if that changes the bottom-line at all, but it might.
That’s a good point. I think we’re all assuming OP might like at least some benefit from home resort priority, and CCV would seem to make more sense than PVB based on the described travel habits. But, if home resort truly makes no difference, I suppose PVB is the better choice based on slightly better incentives and lower dues. But, if OP would find any benefit, even just potentially, to home resort priority - December bookings, for example - then I’d say CCV still wins.
 
Of course I want to be DVC-Y!! 🤣 Buttt I’m currently paying off a resale contract as well 🙃 honestly I would’ve just skipped this incentive round but CCV being a part of it and Poly increasing in price is giving me FOMO.
 
okay, if you are #1 buying direct points to get a start on your accumulation towards DVC-Y benefits and #2 don't plan to use the home resort benefit, then it's purely a numbers question. Here were the numbers I calculated. Polynesian are the cheapest "sleep around" direct points then for 150 points... may be different for 100 points.
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Of course I want to be DVC-Y!! 🤣 Buttt I’m currently paying off a resale contract as well 🙃 honestly I would’ve just skipped this incentive round but CCV being a part of it and Poly increasing in price is giving me FOMO.
Ehhhh the price for direct is always going to increase. The whole point is to give you FOMO. I know the age old saying for DVC is I wish I had bought in sooner and people are like I bought in for 100 per point and I can still sell it for 100 per point! And while that's great its not like there wasn't opportunity cost on that money even though it did fund family vacations.

IMO, wait until you actually have the funds and truly want home resort priority at a direct resort that you're interested in. At most I would maybe lock in CCV at the end of the current round of incentives and then depending on what the next round is you could consider rescinding but again idk it sounds like maybe it isn't actually the best time for you to buy.
 











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