General Star Wars Discussion

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She had her hits and she had her misses. It will be interesting where Star Wars goes from here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011929705587298694

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[BrianL]

I think this is a good move. Unlike some, I really like Dave, but I do think he's more of a creative than a business-guy. Splitting duty keeps him in creative witht he juice to see his visions through. I don't know much about Lynwen, but she's been with Lucasfilm for a while, so that's good.

 

[HokieRaven5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2012230530553556994

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

I am happy. KK had a tough task, but there is no denying that SW, and Indy, and Willow greatly faltered under her leadership. On top of that the constant issues with directors and production cost overruns plagued her time in the big chair. I don’t know for certain that it will get better at Lucasfilm, but it would be difficult for the new duo to do worse imho.

I will never forgive KK for what she did to Luke Skywalker, my childhood hero.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

This sums up things well imho:

https://www.thewrap.com/industry-news/business/kathleen-kennedy-lucasfilm-legacy-analysis/

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2012230530553556994

Lucasfilm later denied that Filoni disliked Andor and he's talked pretty glowingly about the series previously. I think Filoni's issue was it rewriting his canon by having Mon give her speech in the Senate and then the later one on the Ghost. Gilroy tried to stay correct with existing canon but that was one he just pushed past because it benefitted the story better which I agree with.

We'll find out fairly soon what direction works for Lucasfilm. If Mando & Grogu isn't a massive hit, the Filoni verse is pretty much done as a viable commodity. I know he had dreams of an Avengers type movie with all his characters meeting up and taking on Thrawn but that's on the backburner now, I'd imagine with its prospects riding on whether people come back out for his movie.

 

[HollowxBastion]

Does anyone play/collect Star Wars: Unlimited here? looking to get into it, it looks like a fun smaller/niche card game. Problem is that don't really know where to start haha

 

[BrianL]

Does anyone play/collect Star Wars: Unlimited here? looking to get into it, it looks like a fun smaller/niche card game. Problem is that don't really know where to start haha

I thought about getting into it, but unfortunately don't really have a group to play with. I would maybe see if there is an active player community near you - check out local card/games/comic shops.

 

[HollowxBastion]

I thought about getting into it, but unfortunately don't really have a group to play with. I would maybe see if there is an active player community near you - check out local card/games/comic shops.

I just found this - Karabast. It's an online simulator for Star Wars Unlimited so you could get started to learn the game and play against others online.

 

[nancipants]

Lucasfilm later denied that Filoni disliked Andor and he's talked pretty glowingly about the series previously. I think Filoni's issue was it rewriting his canon by having Mon give her speech in the Senate and then the later one on the Ghost. Gilroy tried to stay correct with existing canon but that was one he just pushed past because it benefitted the story better which I agree with.

Which is ironic considering Filoni has ignored canon before, too.

 

[BrianL]

Which is ironic considering Filoni has ignored canon before, too.

The thing about canon for a property that becomes long-lived and sprawling is that it has to be mutable. Obviously the major stuff should stay intact, but minor changes are inevetible. It's best when they make it work, but sometimes it will serve the story better to just move forward anyway, and sometimes they may just miss it too. I mean, there is just so much content! I know Dave and Pablo are like living Wookiepedias and all, but even they can't know everything.

 

[nancipants]

The thing about canon for a property that becomes long-lived and sprawling is that it has to be mutable. Obviously the major stuff should stay intact, but minor changes are inevetible. It's best when they make it work, but sometimes it will serve the story better to just move forward anyway, and sometimes they may just miss it too. I mean, there is just so much content! I know Dave and Pablo are like living Wookiepedias and all, but even they can't know everything.

Of course! It's just funny if Dave thinks his stories are untouchable but not others. (But I also don't like Dave so I'm critical, LOL.)

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Agreed Brian, but some stuff should have never occurred:

- making the lightsaber less lethal in all the Disney stuff is foolish. How many people were skewered and then lived?

- Luke as a grumpy old man was out of character and foolish.

- Luke dying from “forcing too hard” was foolish

- Leia flying like Mary Poppins was foolish

- The Holdo maneuver was foolish and cannon breaking

- The mod squad looking like power rangers was foolish

I hope Dave has the courage to raise his hand and say, “no we aren’t doing that and here is why”. My biggest frustration with KK was she refused to do that. Either she didn’t know better or didn’t care and both are horrible traits for a Lucasfilm leader IMO.


I have my concerns with Filoni too, as he is far from perfect. He however does understand the lore, which I think KK lacked.

 

[BrianL]

Of course! It's just funny if Dave thinks his stories are untouchable but not others. (But I also don't like Dave so I'm critical, LOL.)

Well, I think it's a bit overblown. Dave may have had concerns, but I don't know if he ever "disliked" it or anything. He probably just wanted to make sure it wasn't steamrolled.

 

[PolymerSkywalker]

Of course! It's just funny if Dave thinks his stories are untouchable but not others. (But I also don't like Dave so I'm critical, LOL.)

Filoni is far from perfect

 

[Kit Jackson]

- The mod squad looking like power rangers was foolish

Does this reference the Vespa Teens from The Book of Boba Fett or is it something different? The Vespa Teens felt like something created to sell merch (buy the figure or figures and their matching space Vespa!). They also felt like they were being set up for their own series via back-door pilot, which was true for multiple episodes of that series.

 

[BrianL]

Does this reference the Vespa Teens from The Book of Boba Fett or is it something different? The Vespa Teens felt like something created to sell merch (buy the figure or figures and their matching space Vespa!). They also felt like they were being set up for their own series via back-door pilot, which was true for multiple episodes of that series.

And yet, there was no merch.

Personally, I liked them, but I thend to like funky, cool things.

 

[Kit Jackson]

Personally, I liked them, but I thend to like funky, cool things.

It's not that I disliked them. I'm not opposed to their existence nor do I feel their existence completely ruined the show or the Star War universe. It felt like the characters existed to sell toys and possibly set up a new series focusing on them. (This was a problem I had with the series as a whole. Mostly the back-door pilot part of it. They were the only characters they felt toyetic).

 

[BrianL]

It's not that I disliked them. I'm not opposed to their existence nor do I feel their existence completely ruined the show or the Star War universe. It felt like the characters existed to sell toys and possibly set up a new series focusing on them. (This was a problem I had with the series as a whole. Mostly the back-door pilot part of it. They were the only characters they felt toyetic).

I get ya - they just get so much flack! Really though, Star Wars has always had those "toyetic"* characters running around in the background. I mean, Boba Fett himself would qualify as such.

*The word toyetic was introduced to me through the wonderful show Freakazoid!