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[JOLT]

I'm not sure how the argument of adjusting the other rooms because the theme park rooms aren't selling works when they also increased the theme park rooms.

You could say the views are now way better for theme park but majority of members don't even know there were bad views.

Im not sure how they could legally resolve this issue where the owners aren't penalized for DVD/DVC's mistake.

 

[Sandisw]

I have a problem with this. They raised points to cover their own mistake. It's not our fault they classified some rooms as theme park knowing as soon as they built it they would have subpar views.

It’s not always so cut and dry because sometimes on paper, it seems okay.

Sometimes it seems like it should be obvious…regardless thet did the correct thing and fixed it quickly so that it doesn’t happen any longer.

Until a resort is completely declared, this is something that can happen, especially when it opens and it’s clear it didn’t make it.

When they decide on the totals from the start they base it on # of rooms. If now the number of rooms in a category don’t fit, they should not continue to sell with a point chart that implies that.

 

[AstroBlasters]

The idea that DVC would have somehow priced less total points to sell because of the # of rooms in a particular view seems ridiculous to me.

They were going to price the total number of points to hit a target ROI and avg dues cost and then use a computer to auto assign the points.

 

[muppets3d]

I feel like "theme park view" is the highest tier of room view - and it should be a perfect view of the theme park. If anything is in the way, it's not a theme park view. This view should be heavily scrutinized when assigning views to rooms. And yes, it may need to change over time as new things are built or trees grow in.

 

[Sandisw]

Anyone else here attend any of the others and have feedback?

It seems that most of the questions asked by those in attendance were not topics those here on the boards focus in on.

 

[zavandor]

Regardless of the cause, the point pool must remain unchanged.

Or, they could declare fewer points in the remaining units to remove the extra points from the system. From which they could learn in the future to not overshoot with the views (as if...).

If I owned at Poly I would certainly get in touch with a not so friendly email. I don't understand why there isn't more uproar about this.

 

[JackosinDIS]

Or, they could declare fewer points in the remaining units to remove the extra points from the system. From which they could learn in the future to not overshoot with the views (as if...).

If I owned at Poly I would certainly get in touch with a not so friendly email. I don't understand why there isn't more uproar about this.

I’m uproaring on my own over here in Yorkshire! Email has been sent to DVC!

 

[Sandisw]

Or, they could declare fewer points in the remaining units to remove the extra points from the system. From which they could learn in the future to not overshoot with the views (as if...).

If I owned at Poly I would certainly get in touch with a not so friendly email. I don't understand why there isn't more uproar about this.

I do know when I shared some things about views at RIV that are PV but ground floor, that sometimes on paper, and when it’s built it seems like it would fit.

At least in this case they made the change very quickly to make sure number of rooms in those high category were changed to a lower one.

 

[walt34]

The Poly tower isn’t fully declared, is it? Did they compensate for room view changes in the already declared units with this point change or also for those they will declare in the future?

 

[Sandisw]

The Poly tower isn’t fully declared, is it? Did they compensate for room view changes in the already declared units with this point change or also for those they will declare in the future?

It is not fully declared which gives them flexibility to shift points around.

 

[walt34]

It is not fully declared which gives them flexibility to shift points around.

Yes, but I meant, for those units that are not yet declared, they can fix the unit point number before declaring, so if they change rooms from TPV to something else, those changes won’t affect existing owners?

 

[Sandisw]

Yes, but I meant, for those units that are not yet declared, they can fix the unit point number before declaring, so if they change rooms from TPV to something else, those changes won’t affect existing owners?

it all depends on what you mean by existing owners?

If the points not yet declared are adjusted for units, then when those units enter the condo, it might impact the overall point charts, which is my understanding of what happened here.

So, any potential change in the future, would impact owners if the points chart adjusts to accommodate it.

I do think they estimate pretty close to what the final will be but then things like PVB happen…and happened with BLT…and the fix the charts to balance.

 

[Sandisw]

I'm not sure how the argument of adjusting the other rooms because the theme park rooms aren't selling works when they also increased the theme park rooms.

You could say the views are now way better for theme park but majority of members don't even know there were bad views.

Im not sure how they could legally resolve this issue where the owners aren't penalized for DVD/DVC's mistake.

Just to respond to this…they didn’t adjust because of sales…they adjusted because of complaints by owners who needed to be constantly moved and points adjusted because the actual rooms didn’t match the category.

So, those first floor rooms are no longer going to be TPV, which means the points that were in those units needs to go elsewhere.

I don’t know how many rooms this impacted…

 

[walt34]

it all depends on what you mean by existing owners?

If the points not yet declared are adjusted for units, then when those units enter the condo, it might impact the overall point charts, which is my understanding of what happened here.

Maybe I misunderstood. I thought they changed rooms in a declared unit from TPV to something else (because of complaints), so the point-difference had to go somewhere, so they increased the point chart for SV rooms.
But the points of an undeclared unit are not yet part of the association. So if they have some more units with questionable TPV rooms, they could/should change the room category and reduce the number of points associated with that unit before it gets declared, so no further changes to the point charts would be necessary, saving existing PVB owners from another increase of the point chart.

 

[Sandisw]

Got you…yes, I think the fact they did this so quickly should mean they adjust all further declarations so this isn’t needed in the future.

The farther out it is with more declared units, these kind of issues are harder to fix.

 

[jennypenny]

I have a weird Q -- do they check to see if you're an owner before entering the meeting? We obv don't own at all resorts but I'd love the be a fly on the wall at some of them. (part of the reason I miss the general meeting)

Also, did they indicate when next year's meetings will be? (I know they are quarterly now but the big news always seems to come out before the Dec meeting)

 

[Sandisw]

I have a weird Q -- do they check to see if you're an owner before entering the meeting? We obv don't own at all resorts but I'd love the be a fly on the wall at some of them. (part of the reason I miss the general meeting)

Also, did they indicate when next year's meetings will be? (I know they are quarterly now but the big news always seems to come out before the Dec meeting)

Yes, you have to check in at the desk. You have to have registered prior and only owners can register.

They list your home resort on your name tag too. They did have someone checking casually as you entered.

They are no longer qualrterly. FL changed it back to yearly so next December will be the only one.

They did say the would try to get the dates out much earlier so more can schedule trips to attend.