FYI for RCI Exchangers into DVC

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It is being reported (don't know if true) that DVC's TPU on RCI has increased from 25 to 32.

Look on TUG BBS and look at the Exchanging Forum and one of the users has posted what he saw on RCI where apparently the TPU for DVC has been upped.

1 Bedroom 4 (4) Full Fri 09-Sep-2011 Fri 16-Sep-2011 Exchange Fee 32
1 Bedroom 4 (4) Full Sun 11-Sep-2011 Sun 18-h it lSep-2011 Exchange Fee 32
1 Bedroom 4 (4) Full Fri 16-Sep-2011 Fri 23-Sep-2011 Exchange Fee 32
1 Bedroom 4 (4) Full Fri 09-Dec-2011 Fri 16-Dec-2011 Exchange Fee 32
Studio 4 (2) Partial Sun 11-Dec-2011 Sun 18-Dec-2011 Exchange Fee 32
1 Bedroom 4 (4) Full Fri 06-Jan-2012 Fri 13-Jan-2012 Exchange Fee 32
1 Bedroom 4 (4) Full Sat 07-Jan-2012 Sat 14-Jan-2012 Exchange Fee 32
 
Trading Power Units -- it's an attempt to assign a numeric value to timeshare weeks in order to establish some sort of "currency" for exchanges. TPU varies by location, demand, etc.
 

So is a high number good or bad?

a high number means they are more expensive. you would need a better timeshare week (or combination of weeks) to be able to trade for DVC in RCI...

(if you have a great non-orlando timeshare week that is valued at more than 32 TPUs, it is good because there will be less competition from others...but for most who are trying to trade into DVC cheaply, it is bad.)
 
You can also combine multiple "deposits" to up the trading power. There is a fee for this. $99 I think?
 
You can also combine multiple "deposits" to up the trading power. There is a fee for this. $99 I think?

sure, but once you've paid $800 in annual dues for the first week + $700 in annual dues for the second week + $99 to combine deposits + $199 for the exchange fee + $80 annual fee for RCI membership + $95 DVC transportation fee once you arrive + $10 each day for internet...

eventually it stops being a good deal.
 
So basically, this means that it is great to own at DVC if you love going there, which I do. Love Disney.
 
I checked out the RCI site and I'm seeing that now (the 32 trade in value) too. I'm glad I just traded into DVC for a trading power of 25 a couple of weeks ago.

We will still be able to combine weeks like PP said for $99 but also like PP said you have to crunch the numbers to see if it is still a good deal. For us it will still be a good deal, it just means that if we want to vacation at a DVC resort we will have to sacrifice a bit on other vacations.

Overall a bummer for us RCI folks but still doable I guess.
 
Really hurts me big time. I was going to exchange two of my weeks (worth 15) for a DVC week. Now, I'm two points short.

Any idea how to pick up a couple of points? (And no, I'm not going to combine a third year).
 
Really hurts me big time. I was going to exchange two of my weeks (worth 15) for a DVC week. Now, I'm two points short.

Any idea how to pick up a couple of points? (And no, I'm not going to combine a third year).

That stinks. I'm sorry. I was reading up on RCI's website and to the best of my understanding, there is no way to add points without combining weeks. I hope I'm wrong and that someone else has further insight.
 
So I think I understand what you're posting. Now my question is, if I own DVC will I be able to exchange through RCI for a better timeshare resort around the world? Or will it be the same quality as it has been?:confused3
 
It is being reported (don't know if true) that DVC's TPU on RCI has increased from 25 to 32.

Interesting. I wonder if RCI or DVC initiated that - am I remembering rightly that DVC recently renegotiated with RCI? Or recently enough that it may have taken RCI this long to implement some aspects of the agreement, which knowing RCI is a ways back. ;)

If DVC initiated it, then IMHO they're stepping up to try to protect DVC owners (maybe concurrent with the "500 Kingdoms" thing), by making points rentals competitive with trading in. If RCI initiated it, I'm guessing that's part of their supposed shift to preferring points systems over weeks, and negotiating different trading powers with each system. The number of points it costs to get into DVC in my system hasn't changed (although IMHO RCI's agreement with my system overprices Orlando resorts as a whole, making the in-system resorts there more competitive).
 
So I think I understand what you're posting. Now my question is, if I own DVC will I be able to exchange through RCI for a better timeshare resort around the world? Or will it be the same quality as it has been?:confused3
Interesting question.

Theoretically, it seems like a higher TPU for DVC should translate into an advantage for DVC owners trying to exchange out. But who knows what the real-world result will be? Only time will tell.

At the end of the day, what is true for most other timeshares will almost certainly be true for DVC -- the best use of any system is within that system...not exchanging.
 
I was just browsing on RCI and noticed the point increase. Came here to see if it had been reported yet.

Sure glad I traded last month and got in for 25. I wanted to trade in again next June, but not worth it now.
 
This isn't anything particularly new; there have been fluctuations in trade power---some increases, some decreases---several times a year dating back to when DVC first affiliated in RCI. The only difference now is that it is obvious when it happens. I'll bet a mickeybar that this isn't the last valuation change we ever see.
 
sure, but once you've paid $800 in annual dues for the first week + $700 in annual dues for the second week + $99 to combine deposits + $199 for the exchange fee + $80 annual fee for RCI membership + $95 DVC transportation fee once you arrive + $10 each day for internet...

eventually it stops being a good deal.
It depends on specifics. Not everyone has a high fee, low value unit (though far too many do). Still, if you can get a DVC 1 or 2 BR unit that fits your needs, 2 for 1 plus the other fees is still often reasonable. We've had several stays the last couple of years with an exchange where we stayed only F-M and either wasted or gave away the rest of the time. My costs for a week exchanging for DVC is somewhere around $400 a week including the exchange fee and $95 resort services fee though I realize not everyone has the economy of scale that some of us do. My 60 TPU deposits and my freebie deposits (3 a year) have served me well.

The best use of the option to combine is that it allows one to salvage leftover trading power AND it extends the usage from 2 years from the date of the combination. I currently have credits in my account of 8, 4 & 7 as well as a deposit I made today that is 22. At some point I will combine them all and extend them but likely not for a years or more.

These fluctuations have gone on since RCI (and II) started, it's just that now you can actually seem them in black and white. This happens both on the deposits and on the other end of the trade. For example, my 60 above done today would be 51 full trading power.

So I think I understand what you're posting. Now my question is, if I own DVC will I be able to exchange through RCI for a better timeshare resort around the world? Or will it be the same quality as it has been?:confused3
Unfortunately with DVC's setup it doesn't necessarily translate to higher trade power using DVC to trade with RCI, actually it likely makes no difference since DVC is really far more of a RCI points resort than a RCI weeks resort. Eventually it might help a little if the trade power stays up high enough long enough. If you see a corresponding increase in the number of points to trade to DVC through RCI's points system, that would be a better indication of increase trade power. Still, DVC members wouldn't likely get much benefit, most of the benefit would likely to to DVD only. There is the possibility though that eventually this could lower the points to trade but that's a lot of time and what if's and given DVC's history and track record, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Interesting. I wonder if RCI or DVC initiated that - am I remembering rightly that DVC recently renegotiated with RCI? Or recently enough that it may have taken RCI this long to implement some aspects of the agreement, which knowing RCI is a ways back.
It's unlikely DVC were involved directly in the decision. The parameters of trade power haven't been released that I know of for the new version, historically it's been unit size, week demand, resort quality and resort demand. DVC has generally had an averaged trade power anyway so the 32 (or 25) across the board is not totally surprising.

I just logged into RCI and all the DVC inventory is gone.
I currently see 22 total units on the weeks side, haven't checked RCI points.
 
I just logged into RCI and all the DVC inventory is gone.

Change the filter to see all exchanges. By default, it only shows you the units you can trade for, so if you have less than 32pts, you won't see anything.

I lucked out, I put a hold on a 1 bedroom at BLT yesterday for 25 (I only had 26 to use) and today I see it up to 32, so I confirmed.

I really don't think they are smart the way RCI charges the same 32 for all units whether it be a studio, 1 bedroom or 2 bedroom. It really makes no sense. On the points side they don't do this. The point cost varies as it should between room size, time of the year and resort. RCI is a little wacky.
 



















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