Full Vaccination Required Ages 5+ Starting 1/13/22

[Philsfan77]

Same. Royal hasn’t changed their policy to require kids to be vaxxed and they are a much bigger line than Disney in comparison of how many people cruise with them

I'm thinking they haven't adjusted yet just for that reason. The size and scale of their fleet and the number of european cruises they have (where European countries vaccine is still only for 12 and up). I imagine when/if countries in Europe start vaccines for 5 and up, Royal will follow suit, similar to what happened when they changed policy to 12 and up.

 

[Roughians_satchel]

We're in the same boat. A family member had a horrible reaction to Pfizer so we have been waiting for the J&J one to be approved for the kids. It seems unlikely that it will be before we sail in March. This will be our 3rd re-schedule. We've never been on a cruise and at this rate, our oldest will be in 12th grade. It will have been 3 years from the original sail date

We're in a similar boat - been fully paid and rescheduling since June of 2020. Our cruise June 22 is now in serious jeopardy.

I remember reading somewhere that the 125%FCC HAS to be used by September, 2022. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Annabell]

This is really sad. Need to re-schedule our plans too.

 

[Terapin]

Colorado vaccinates anyone of age, no questions asked. I vaccinated a gentleman from Spain who said he would make me famous in Spain for giving him his vaccine

we still have to quarantine kids from school and daycare after international travel for 2 weeks. Boo. As well Colorado is a bit of a hike!! Lol an option for sure!

 

[Cfudge]

Possibly but we'd be past PIF date and would have all airfare and everything paid in full. For us it would be a 20k gamble that we could achieve that.

Looks like approval from Health Canada is coming tomorrow!

 

[rgrovr]

Oh fudge what a shame. We'll have to cancel our cruise for Aug-22. I wish you all the best.

 

[Terapin]

Looks like approval from Health Canada is coming tomorrow!

we’ll have clarity for dates then.Hopefully not the 8 weeks between doses we’ve been hearing.

 

[lorenni]

Looks like approval from Health Canada is coming tomorrow!

HOORAY!!!!

 

[YesMickey]

The Bahamas does care, though. The law in the Bahamas specifically requires all cruise ship guests 12+ to be vaccinated. And I'm sure that DCL will be just fine with this new policy.

Sure didn't act like it when I was at three different ports. Only Nassau checked cruise cards. Bimini just had a pier going to the island. Nobody there except golf cart and shuttle rentals.

 

[jrapps]

For every person rushing to cancel, there is equally someone who was waiting for vaccine requirements before they would feel comfortable booking. I expect this won't have much impact on the capacity at all, but only time will tell. If capacity goes lower that Disney wants, prices will drop which will incentivize more people like me to book more cruises. The market will adjust. You aren't going to have ghost-ships sailing with 200 people on them because of this.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Sure didn't act like it when I was at three different ports. Only Nassau checked cruise cards. Bimini just had a pier going to the island. Nobody there except golf cart and shuttle rentals.

Nassau isn't checking cruise cards because they know they were checked at embark, and the line sends the info to them before the ship is allowed to tie up.

 

[YesMickey]

Carnival requires that every passenger be vaccinated currently so that is why that is not an issue.

Actually they are 95%. And there were a lot of kids on the ship. Figured they were home schoolers. They didn't need to be "vaccinated".

 

[YesMickey]

For every person rushing to cancel, there is equally someone who was waiting for vaccine requirements before they would feel comfortable booking. I expect this won't have much impact on the capacity at all, but only time will tell. If capacity goes lower that Disney wants, prices will drop which will incentivize more people like me to book more cruises. The market will adjust. You aren't going to have ghost-ships sailing with 200 people on them because of this.

Excluding business has NEVER increased business. Ever. Again. Carnival cruises are about 40% currently. Dining room was 25% full and the theatre during shows was about 10% full.

 

[CBMom01]

We are sailing on the first Hawaii cruise (and rebooked from the cancelled cruise). My littlest turns 5 years old on Feb 25th. I don't think we'll have enough time for her to be considered 'fully vaxxed' with first and second dose, and waiting time. And we'll be outside of the 5 week grace window. I think in Canada we will be 8 weeks between doses. So gutted. We have 7 people booked, our pre-cruise hotel booked, our Aulani stay booked, and excursions in Hawaii booked. We've been counting down the days, after counting down the days to the cancelled cruise. 5 weeks seems awfully arbitrary based on the dosing schedule that's being proposed for 5-12 year olds likely being 8 weeks

So anyone with a birthday within 5-9 weeks of sailing can't sail even with one dose and a test, yet unvaxxed within 0-5 weeks of their birthday are free to sail with testing. THAT makes no sense.

The CDC and Pfizer guidance is 3 weeks between doses. That's how you get the 5 week window. It's not arbitrary.

 

[CBMom01]

For every person rushing to cancel, there is equally someone who was waiting for vaccine requirements before they would feel comfortable booking. I expect this won't have much impact on the capacity at all, but only time will tell. If capacity goes lower that Disney wants, prices will drop which will incentivize more people like me to book more cruises. The market will adjust. You aren't going to have ghost-ships sailing with 200 people on them because of this.

Totally agree. I know people who are cruising *because* of the vaccine requirements. I wish I had gone that route.

 

[jrapps]

Excluding business has NEVER increased business. Ever. Again. Carnival cruises are about 40% currently. Dining room was 25% full and the theatre during shows was about 10% full.

The error in your assumption is that this only EXCLUDES people. It does not. There are people waiting for vaccines and mandates before they will cruise. This move actually INCLUDES more people that previously did not feel comfortable spending their money to cruise.

Some people will cancel. Others will now book. This isn't going to have a detrimental impact. I was on one of the first Dream cruise back after they added a vaccine requirement for 12+...literally the day they announced vaccines would be required, dozens of new people booked and joined our cruise Facebook page, so excited that they can now cruise. The number of people who joined those final 2 weeks was monumentally higher than those that bowed out.

 

[RedHead0186]

Totally agree. I know people who are cruising *because* of the vaccine requirements. I wish I had gone that route.

Yep, I'm cruising on Princess next week; it's a fully-vaccinated cruise. That's the only way I personally felt comfortable cruising at this point in time. To each their own, but for me the vaccine requirement is why I decided to cruise.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Sure didn't act like it when I was at three different ports. Only Nassau checked cruise cards. Bimini just had a pier going to the island. Nobody there except golf cart and shuttle rentals.

I'm not sure they'd actually be checking vaccination confirmations when getting off the ship. It's up the the cruise line to confirm that everyone onboard is compliant before allowing them on board.

 

[mousefan73]

Sure didn't act like it when I was at three different ports. Only Nassau checked cruise cards. Bimini just had a pier going to the island. Nobody there except golf cart and shuttle rentals.

Just a bit of OT information. That is how things like this usually go in reality. Countries will make entry requirements and put the burden on transportation providers, whether airlines or cruise lines. The entire burden lies on the them as IF they were to be audited or spot checked; then there are huge fines to pay is they give passage to passenger who is not. Good example is right now entry into the US from overseas. Airlines and airport staff overseas are investing time, staff and money to do document checks. Once you enter the US you think immigration is asking to see your test results or vaccination status? NO, only random cross checks. So the Bahamas will make it a requirement that cruise lines HAVE to adhere to, but actually checking a totally different story.

 

[mousefan73]

I am 10000% percent sure Disney has done market research to see how customers react to any policy changes and how it may affect their bookings. some things they can't budge on, but for those they can, they do. Same with masks at WDW, they could be like UO but they aren't.. Pretty sure they did their research first.