Frustrating home selling update page 8

No they weren't. We haven't budged from that number. We are on the 3x sending them the same thing. They keep countering. We say no and sign back the same offer. We haven't changed our position the only thing we added is the letter from the title company verifying our funds.

We have negotiated in good faith and have been honest about where a short sale would be reached.

Then I would say that you are in the right and should just be done with it. If they won't budge from their position, then you just have to wait them out. Which is probably what they are dong, come to think about it. They might be taking the attitude that they can sock you with more financial demands and you will fold because you have to sell your house.

However, since your house is not being sold as a short sale, you really do have an advantage in the selling - a lot of buyers don't even want to get into a short sale home since they can cause the buyer a lot of aggravation. Your buyers are just being PITA's. :sad1:

I buy houses for a living (I rent them out) and won't even touch a For Sale By Owner or a short sale home. Too much time, trouble, and aggravation so I only do bank owned homes and HUD homes.

I'd just be firm about it and let your agent know that this is your bottom line, take it or leave it. :)
 
OP, I feel your pain. We put ours up for sale, was offered $100,000.00 less then asking price, plus wanted lots of little extras. Refused that, their next try was to get us to swap houses with them. Their smaller older sided house on 3 acres for our larger newer brick house on 5 acres.

We told our agent if this is the kind of offers we are gonna get we'll just wait to downsize when the market picks up.
 
We had something similar happen. We didn't agree to their terms. They came back with new terms. We still didn't agree. They said they had their eyes on another house, we said fine, buy it. Wouldn't you know....they came back at better terms one month later.

I think these people really want your house. Call them on it. Don't offer any concessions you aren't comfortable with. They'll likely come back because they've already 'seen themselves in it' I bet.

Good luck.
 
After reading all this, all I can hear in my head is Lorrie Morgan singing:

"What part of "NO" don't you understand?"

Which is what the OP needs to be saying to the potential purchasers.
 

OP, I feel your pain. We put ours up for sale, was offered $100,000.00 less then asking price, plus wanted lots of little extras. Refused that, their next try was to get us to swap houses with them. Their smaller older sided house on 3 acres for our larger newer brick house on 5 acres.

We told our agent if this is the kind of offers we are gonna get we'll just wait to downsize when the market picks up.

Same thing happened with us! In the end I'm glad because the recession hit our small town later than the rest of the country and now that our "recession proof" jobs aren't so recession proof I'm sooo glad we're in our old home that we can afford!
 
We've just gone through something very similar. We ended up selling to horrible buyers, and experienced almost as severe a level of insult as you have. In the end, we lost $300,000 on our home, but feel good to have gotten out from under the expense, and will most likely be relocating to a new state for a new job anyway. They were "cash buyers," so our agents tolerated everything they were put through.
Our buyers took forever to make up their mind as well, although they were "infatuated with the cleanliness" of our home, according to their agent. They also wanted pre-approval from the HOA to install a fence, trees, etc. Since my DH is President of our HOA, he tried to assure them that if they wanted to put something similar to existing fences and landscaping, it should be approved. The buyers kept insisting that they needed pre-approval. Finally, hubby forwarded them a letter from the HOA Management Company stating that they could only approve it once they had architectural plans etc. We told their agent that we were unwilling to incur the expense involved in hiring an architect to draw up official plans on their behalf! We reminded them that if they wanted to put in something similar to what's already been allowed in the neighborhood, they couldn't be turned down by the HOA. If your buyers want to put in some kind of aquatic monstrosity, then they should expect to have their request denied! Our buyers finally got it, and we moved on to their other contingencies.
They wanted the house inspected, and appraised. We came out well on those, (actually appraising for more than the agreed upon selling price, although we weren't allowed to see the figure arrived at!)
Then, the buyers made some poor schmuck get up on our snowy roof to verify that the roof was OK. This is a four year old house, by the way! The A/C couldn't be tested, since it was colder than 65 degrees outside, and apparently, you can actually damage the unit by turning it on in that situation. So, the buyers made the two real estate agents put into the contract that they'd pay to fix the A/C, should it not operate correctly in the Spring.
They also tried to move up the close date, which was impossible, since by the time the contingencies were lifted, we had two weeks to pack ourselves, get an apartment for our son, find a home for our chinchilla, sell our exercise equipment on Craig's List, etc. A complete nightmare, but we got it done.
So, now we're staying with our good friends down the street, and three weeks later, they still haven't moved in, and have left the house pitch black at night, and have even turned off the landscape lights!
We ended up leaving the leftover paint in the basement for them, simply because we were too worn out to take it with us! So, I definitely feel your pain! The buyers' agent told us, "Well, you can be just as awful to the sellers when you buy your next home!" DH said, "See, we'd never do that to someone." So, I figure the karma will come back around eventually.
Hang in there and hope that your buyers gets their acts together and stop pushing for what doesn't exist. I think if our buyers had dared to ask for our financials, DH would have walked away right then and there. We were just lucky that it didn't occur to them!
 
Well, they walked. I don't know why yet. Only thing I've heard is that "they changed their mind."

Maybe they did find another house? But as of 11:30 this am I had a signed contract from them that was just awaiting my DH's (who is on a plane) signature.

I really did work hard to make this work even though it was a crazy frustrating process.

Which is funny because I really wouldn't have taken the paint. I worry about my own karma too much for that.

Back to square one.
 
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Well, they walked. I don't know why yet. Only thing I've heard is that "they changed their mind."

Maybe they did find another house? But as of 11:30 this am I had a signed contract from them that was just awaiting my DH's (who is on a plane) signature.

I really did work hard to make this work even though it was a crazy frustrating process.

Which is funny because I really wouldn't have taken the paint. I worry about my own karma too much for that.

Back to square one.

Makes you really wonder if they were working deals on two different houses, not signing anything, just to see who would give into their demands. Getting the biggest bang for their buck.
 
I feel your pain. We just sold our house and the Buyers asked for everything. We had to finally say no, and told them that they could walk away if they wanted to. They bought the house and turned put to be really nice people. They are just young and can not afford to go out and buy the stuff they were asking for after coming up with the down payment.

As far as the AC goes... We also had our house inspected in the winter and were unable to test the AC. Well we went to turn it on and both systems did not work. It cost $380 to get it up and running. Thankfuly, we had it in the contract and we just recieved their check yesterday.
 
Makes you really wonder if they were working deals on two different houses, not signing anything, just to see who would give into their demands. Getting the biggest bang for their buck.

I'm not to sure about this but you never know.

They walked because our agent "offended" them by asking their lender for the pre-approval letter with the correct purchase price. He only asked their lender directly for the letter because their agent didn't provide one (as required by law) after being repeatedly asked.

Apparently they sent a 2 page email to their agent ranting about how horrible we were. So ok, bye.

Of course, in their eyes there was nothing offensive about asking me to show them my bank statements and tie up tens of thousands of dollars in escrow to "prove" we had the money.

What's funny, is that their agent is doing a deal with one of my brokers agents and she has called the buyers lender in that deal about 8x already. So I don't know why she didn't tell her sellers that it is a very common practice that agents do all the time. And frankly, had she just sent over the proper pre-approvial letter in the 1st place this wouldn't be an issue.
 
Well, on one hand it's too bad that it didn't work out, in spite of the frustration I'm sure you were looking forward to getting rid of the house. On the other hand, you don't have to deal with these people anymore, either! Hopefully you'll get another offer soon. If you really are the only move-in ready home in our area, I'm sure you'll have an offer soon. Good luck!
 
I'm thinking they were asking for the moon because they really couldn't afford the house to begin with, and were depending on you to cave for the extra money. And the fact that they couldn't produce a current pre-approval letter, and got so angry at being called on it, sounds very fishy.

At any rate... sorry you weren't able to sell the house. Hopefully a better offer will come up quickly.
 
I'm just throwing this out there as food for thought.

When we sold our Florida home in 2005 we THOUGHT we hated the buyers. Then we actually met and had a chance to talk...turned out it was THEIR agent who was the total jerk and making all the unreasonable demands, then claiming it was the client being demanding.

We both ended up filing complaints against her Realtor, and she actually switched to OUR Realtor to sell their condo.

You know what. I'm actually starting to believe this. These are 1st time buyers who are all being walked through the process by a goofy agent.

I actually think the agent may have been saying 'yes' to things before asking the clients. I don't think they knew she had told us that they ok'd the purchase price when we requested the pre-approval letter.

Their lender called them to make sure it was ok to send and they freaked.
 
Sorry it didn't work out, I know you wanted to be done already. Hoping the next deal is much better.

Can you file a complaint about their broker? Lender approval letters are so standard.
 
Here's to hoping that you get the buyer of your dreams and that you get what you are asking for. I know that this must be such a :headache:, but things will work out.:hug:
 
You know what. I'm actually starting to believe this. These are 1st time buyers who are all being walked through the process by a goofy agent.
I actually think the agent may have been saying 'yes' to things before asking the clients. I don't think they knew she had told us that they ok'd the purchase price when we requested the pre-approval letter.

Their lender called them to make sure it was ok to send and they freaked.

I thought this, also.
 
Hope you find a great buyer really soon! I agree with the PP I dont think they could afford it.

We had 2 buyers bail on our old house. First one lost financing, second one was ust looking for a reason but kept us on the hook for months then backed 2 days before closing. UGH I was SO mad!
BUT now my friend is buying the house! :) YAY Im so excited because I *know* they will take care of it and love it.


BTW, someone just offered my mum $40,000 less than asking price on a less than $150,000 house. I dont understand some people
 
No matter what was said or done by whom if they had really wanted it and were able to buy it they would still be annoying you.

Sorry the deal fell through, that stinks for you, hoping there is another buyer in the wings.

I am in N. NV, I feel your pain in regards to the housing issues. I have 2 neighbors who are in the process of foreclosure because they have decided the negative equity is not worth the price of the mortgage payments. Ticks me off to no end, they can make their payments, they have chosen not to and now are letting the yards go to heck etc.
 
You know what. I'm actually starting to believe this. These are 1st time buyers who are all being walked through the process by a goofy agent.

I actually think the agent may have been saying 'yes' to things before asking the clients. I don't think they knew she had told us that they ok'd the purchase price when we requested the pre-approval letter.

Their lender called them to make sure it was ok to send and they freaked.

That's what it sounds like to me now too. It is standard practice to have a pre-approval for the purchase amount faxed from the lender. It sounds like their agent didn't explain the process to them very clearly.

Good luck with selling your home. I hope you get some good buyers (with a good agent) soon!!!
 
We are under contract, buying a house in Florida. Fearing that all those dire news predictions of the house prices falling more have made us be more aggressive in offering less on the house. We are paying 5% less than the asking price, but feel we very possibly could lose 10% equity in the first year. That is a hard pill to swallow for buyers! :headache:We do know that we plan to live in the house for at least 10 years so the downturn has time to correct itself before we would sell again: but, some people don't have that luxury. We are military (husband will retire) but we would not buy a house in this market if we were staying in the service. 4 years is not long enough to get out and break even!

I wish you luck in selling your house!

Mary
 





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