FP+ Details Are Out!

[WillAustin]

Yet people don't seem to realize how easy it would be to detect and restrict now.

It's definitely easy. They can have an "excessive" threshold if someone books beyond a certain amount that adds those AP holders to a watch list, and then monitor how many of those days actually get used. If they notice any abuse, they trigger a limit on how many the individual can reserve at one time.

I prefer preventative measures rather than reactive ones.

The end results would be similar either way.

 

[mom2rtk]

It's definitely easy. They can have an "excessive" threshold if someone books beyond a certain amount that adds those AP holders to a watch list, and then monitor how many of those days actually get used. If they notice any abuse, they trigger a limit on how many the individual can reserve at one time.


The end results would be similar either way.

But Disney would have to want to have to put those restrictions in place. And they don't want to restrict line cutters or loud tour groups, so I'm not sure if they'll want to do this either, especially when they want a positive reception in the face of some shaky support from the get go.

 

[WillAustin]

But Disney would have to want to have to put those restrictions in place. And they don't want to restrict line cutters or loud tour groups, so I'm not sure if they'll want to do this either, especially when they want a positive reception in the face of some shaky support from the get go.

That's why I think it will be "stealth" restrictions only on someone who is a known abuser.

 

[doconeill]

But Disney would have to want to have to put those restrictions in place. And they don't want to restrict line cutters or loud tour groups, so I'm not sure if they'll want to do this either, especially when they want a positive reception in the face of some shaky support from the get go.

Being able to restrict things electronically, before the guest is even in the parks, is a LOT easier than trying to deal with things in the parks where confrontations can occur. VERY different.

 

[ArwenMarie]

They might put some limits in if they find that tourists who have booked room and dining packages are canceling their trips when they can't get a decent ride itinerary. Although if the +10 is true, that might be the indirect control in a sense (and "perk" of staying onsite).

 

[jahber]

Being able to restrict things electronically, before the guest is even in the parks, is a LOT easier than trying to deal with things in the parks where confrontations can occur. VERY different.

This IS the WDW IT department we're talking about, isn't it? They don't exactly have a stellar record with MDE and their Web sites...

As for AP holders, if I recall the rumor was originally 20 TOTAL FP+ per quarter, not 20 days of FP+ reservations. That's why we were up in arms. For a family that attends more than once a month, that would eat up all their FP+ availability. But given that it's all rumor for AP holders as of now, I'm not worried about it yet. I'll stick with FP-.

ETA: if it DOES turn out to be 20 days per quarter, I just can't see many AP holders walking out their FP+ reservations indefinitely. Can you imagine? It would be like a second job, signing in every day and reserving new FP+s. Not that there won't be people doing it, I'm sure. But it's funny to imagine it! We're gonna need some new boards for all this drama

 

[doconeill]

This IS the WDW IT department we're talking about, isn't it? They don't exactly have a stellar record with MDE and their Web sites...

As for AP holders, if I recall the rumor was originally 20 TOTAL FP+ per quarter, not 20 days of FP+ reservations. That's why we were up in arms. For a family that attends more than once a month, that would eat up all their FP+ availability. But given that it's all rumor for AP holders as of now, I'm not worried about it yet. I'll stick with FP- .

I wasn't attempting to duplicate the rumor, but used the number as an example of a restriction that could satisfy both ends. Heck, I personally wouldn't care if it was 14 days or so. But it's still a lot more than 20 individual FP+ per quarter. And I'm talking about "active". Once you use it, or it expires, you can book another one. Or cancel an existing one to book another on a different day. That in a sense allows an "unlimited" number for AP holders, but still with restrictions to make abuse difficult and generally useless.

 

[mom2rtk]

Being able to restrict things electronically, before the guest is even in the parks, is a LOT easier than trying to deal with things in the parks where confrontations can occur. VERY different.

True. And they did finally add the CC hold to most ADRs. But that took years of abuse before they finally did.

 

[jahber]

I wasn't attempting to duplicate the rumor, but used the number as an example of a restriction that could satisfy both ends. Heck, I personally wouldn't care if it was 14 days or so. But it's still a lot more than 20 individual FP+ per quarter. And I'm talking about "active". Once you use it, or it expires, you can book another one. Or cancel an existing one to book another on a different day. That in a sense allows an "unlimited" number for AP holders, but still with restrictions to make abuse difficult and generally useless.

I agree. That sounds like it could work well for the majority of AP users without taking up all the FP+s from very one else. And I realize you weren't trying to substantiate or debunk a rumor. I apologize if I came across argumentative. I just thought I'd add some perspective as to why there was such an uproar a few months ago. It's just so hard to convey tone

 

[dayvewc]

I lose track of who commented where on which post, especially since it seems the same 10-15 people are doing all the commenting on all of them.

But I do remember someone in the upcoming test talking about how they could only schedule 7 days of FP+ at a time, and they were an AP holder. Could that be the proactive limits? 7 days of active reservations for AP's?

Not trying to , just throwing that out.

 

[WillAustin]

I lose track of who commented where on which post, especially since it seems the same 10-15 people are doing all the commenting on all of them.

But I do remember someone in the upcoming test talking about how they could only schedule 7 days of FP+ at a time, and they were an AP holder. Could that be the proactive limits? 7 days of active reservations for AP's?

Not trying to , just throwing that out.

No. I have 9 days of FP+ scheduled right now. I'm an AP holder with a 10 day stay. For some reason, I can book them out to September 19th. I haven't booked any for days we won't be there, but it would let me.

I haven't received any invitation for the test yet, but our bands arrive tomorrow.

 

[jc040404]

No. I have 9 days of FP+ scheduled right now. I'm an AP holder with a 10 day stay. For some reason, I can book them out to September 19th. I haven't booked any for days we won't be there, but it would let me.

I haven't received any invitation for the test yet, but our bands arrive tomorrow.

Interesting. I did play around with days we plan to visit beyond our stay and it stopped me at seven. I'm too curious about all of this!

This Guest currently has the maximum number of FastPass+ selections that can be confirmed based on the number and type of tickets associated to their MyDisneyExperience account. If new FastPass+ selections are made for this day, you will be given the opportunity to trade them for another set of previously confirmed FastPass+ selections.

 

[doconeill]

No. I have 9 days of FP+ scheduled right now. I'm an AP holder with a 10 day stay. For some reason, I can book them out to September 19th. I haven't booked any for days we won't be there, but it would let me.

I haven't received any invitation for the test yet, but our bands arrive tomorrow.

Hmm...September 19th would be 60 days out, would it not?

 

[WillAustin]

Hmm...September 19th would be 60 days out, would it not?

Yes. Yes, it would.

 

[doconeill]

Yes. Yes, it would.

So, what are you waiting for? Steal all those September FP+s!

 

[WillAustin]

So, what are you waiting for? Steal all those September FP+s!

Good idea...

 

[Sue M]

Question- In August 2 out of my 3 resort stays are ones in the Testing. My 1st night at Pop,in test, then we have 2 nights at GF- not a resort in test, then the remainder at YC, also in test.

The system MDE has allowed me to make FP+ selections during our stay at GF which isn't participating in the test. How Will that work?

An aside, Our APs exp. midway thru YC, so we are unable to make any FP res. past our AP exp. date. Phoned, and CM said I can't till our current AP exp. and renewal AP is activated at park Guest Relations.

 

[buckeev]

Question- In August 2 out of my 3 resort stays are ones in the Testing. My 1st night at Pop,in test, then we have 2 nights at GF- not a resort in test, then the remainder at YC, also in test.

The system MDE has allowed me to make FP+ selections during our stay at GF which isn't participating in the test. How Will that work?

An aside, Our APs exp. midway thru YC, so we are unable to make any FP res. past our AP exp. date. Phoned, and CM said I can't till our current AP exp. and renewal AP is activated at park Guest Relations.

Yikes! We are doing a split stay during our Christmas break, and I am wondering how that is gonna play out wit the AP and FP+ "marriage".

 

[PrincessV]

ETA: if it DOES turn out to be 20 days per quarter, I just can't see many AP holders walking out their FP+ reservations indefinitely. Can you imagine? It would be like a second job, signing in every day and reserving new FP+s.

Oh, heck no! I don't even want to be booking FP+ a day in advance, let alone daily, lol! I rarely even book ADRs anymore; just see what's available day of.

An aside, Our APs exp. midway thru YC, so we are unable to make any FP res. past our AP exp. date. Phoned, and CM said I can't till our current AP exp. and renewal AP is activated at park Guest Relations.

Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. My AP expires at a totally different time than my DS's - I was wondering what would happen when his expires, mine's still active, and we plan to renew on the next visit.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

As an AP Holder, the thought of having a restriction on FP+ is concerning. We rarely go under 18-21 days (It's not worth it financially for us to go for a shorter time) For our upcoming trip, we are at WDW for 32 days. If we could only pre-book 7 days, it would be terrible for us. By the time we could book more FP+ times, it would be less than a week out