FP+ Details Are Out!

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I think your best move is to simply stay in the resort room with your computer and smart phone while everybody else goes to the parks. That way, when things arise they can just call you and have you fix the problems. You are the leader for a reason.

I just had to give a huge for this.

Rare these days for literal LOLs from the DIS but this one did the trick.

 

[Rosanne]

Here's a photo of the new Guest Coordination War Room for people who want to make any changes during their stay, a place that xipetotec will be intimately familiar with by the end of his trip:

Love it!

 

[bcrook]

Disney said you could only reserve 3 and all in one park. Up until you actually used the first one you could change the 3 to another park. BUT, this does not peclude Disney from handing out additional FPs on the same day, and at other parks. By no means stated anywhere, but not forbidden.

I think the one park rule makes perfect sense. Most people, especially first timers would not understand the logistics and time involved getting from ride a in MK to ride B in AK. There would be a lot of frustrated and upset people if they allowed this. But, if they allow additional FP's in any park then you will have the opportunity to book at that time and if available.

A lot of the differing views on this depend upon certain assumptions. Some feel availability will be very limited an therefore reservations will need to be made 60 daysout and no ther FP's will be available.

I think FP's won't sell out, there will generally be plenty, people will not rerve 60 days out, there will be lots of swapping right up to and through day of, huge inefficiencies in the current system and many unused FPs will be recovered and reissued, many will not book or will book characters, fireworks, and parades in droves, and it will actually work out fine while we learn a new set of tricks to maximize its effectiveness.

Based on ride capacities at just DHS:

E-tickets 60% FP+ rate at 13 hours:
Toy Story Midway Mania!® - 12,500
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror" 14,000
Rock n Roller Coaster® Starring Aerosmith 16,000
Total - 42,500

With an average attendance of 26,000 at DHS a day needing 78000 FP, you don't think it will be possible that some of these rides could be booked up and in demand? I think it is possible that 50% of the people going to DHS will figure out they need to book these a few days in advance, based on current knowledge, there are a lot of people who understand they have to get to the parks early get those headliners. TSMM proves that.

I don't see anything available for day of distribution even if you wanted to hop.

 

[Shaden]

Based on ride capacities at just DHS:

E-tickets 60% FP+ rate at 13 hours:
Toy Story Midway Mania!® - 12,500
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror" 14,000
Rock n Roller Coaster® Starring Aerosmith 16,000
Total - 42,500

With an average attendance of 26,000 at DHS a day needing 78000 FP, you don't think it will be possible that some of these rides could be booked up and in demand? I think it is possible that 50% of the people going to DHS will figure out they need to book these a few days in advance, based on current knowledge, there are a lot of people who understand they have to get to the parks early get those headliners. TSMM proves that.

I don't see anything available for day of distribution even if you wanted to hop.

whats more interesting is that that is Average attendance, do you know what the MAX attendance is ?

Also Avg attendance is actually 27000 .... your WHOLE post is invalid !!!!!

 

[Lindy Loo]

Omg august isnt looking great then !!!!@

 

[WillAustin]

I think your best move is to simply stay in the resort room with your computer and smart phone while everybody else goes to the parks. That way, when things arise they can just call you and have you fix the problems. You are the leader for a reason.

Best post ever!

 

[Angel Ariel]

Disney said you could only reserve 3 and all in one park. Up until you actually used the first one you could change the 3 to another park. BUT, this does not peclude Disney from handing out additional FPs on the same day, and at other parks. By no means stated anywhere, but not forbidden.

the fp+ terms and conditions say (and i believe they have for quite some time):

Availability of a FP+ experience, the number of experiences you may select and arrival windows are limited and vary based on factors such as the theme park you are visiting, the attraction or entertainment experience, the time of year and the day of the week, and prior demand. In addition, the number of days for which you can hold FP+ at any given time is limited.

This is the statement on which I based my earlier statement - that Disney has always maintained the amt of FP+ selections a person could have is variable.

Those same terms and conditions also state:

You may make FP+ selections for one park per day. You may only select and use a FP+ selection for a particular attraction, entertainment or restaurant experience once per day.

Which is the statement on which I based my comment that Disney has never said more than one park/day would be an option.

I think the one park rule makes perfect sense. Most people, especially first timers would not understand the logistics and time involved getting from ride A in MK to ride B in AK. There would be a lot of frustrated and upset people if they allowed this. But, if they allow additional FP's in any park then you will have the opportunity to book at that time and if available.

this will, I would imagine, significantly decrease the amount of park hoppers purchased. i'm sure there are those 'in the know' who will get phs anyway, and plan their FP+s for the second park and make rope drop - but those who do that won't be the 'first timers' who apparently wouldn't be able to figure out how long it takes to get between parks.

 

[bcrook]

whats more interesting is that that is Average attendance, do you know what the MAX attendance is ?

Also Avg attendance is actually 27000 .... your WHOLE post is invalid !!!!!

I don't know what the max is. But during peak times, it would be more than 27,000!

 

[dayvewc]

Disney has always said that the number of fp's could vary (depending on numerous factors, including time of year). They've never indicated that fp + would be available in more than one park/day.

I spoke at length with a tech CM earlier this week who informed me that multiple park FP+ WOULD be available, but probably a year or more down the line. That there was enough concern and complaints coming in on feedback that the option will be implemented, but that there are no plans to try to fit it into the initial roll-out.

FWIW.

 

[patrickpiteo]

I spoke at length with a tech CM earlier this week who informed me that multiple park FP+ WOULD be available, but probably a year or more down the line. That there was enough concern and complaints coming in on feedback that the option will be implemented, but that there are no plans to try to fit it into the initial roll-out.

FWIW.

Then no park hopper extra for me till then..

 

[wdwlver]

I spoke at length with a tech CM earlier this week who informed me that multiple park FP+ WOULD be available, but probably a year or more down the line. That there was enough concern and complaints coming in on feedback that the option will be implemented, but that there are no plans to try to fit it into the initial roll-out.

FWIW.

That would make me very happy!! We park hop every day, stay at BC so we hop into EP most evenings.
We are here now and enjoying our last pre fastpass + trip...hopefully by next summer the kinks will be worked out in the new system.

 

[Mariannekay]

All of this FP+/Magic band talk makes me so jealous of the August test group! We are going in Sept and would love to have a chance at trying things out!!

 

[Angel Ariel]

I spoke at length with a tech CM earlier this week who informed me that multiple park FP+ WOULD be available, but probably a year or more down the line. That there was enough concern and complaints coming in on feedback that the option will be implemented, but that there are no plans to try to fit it into the initial roll-out.

FWIW.

I hadn't read that. I sincerely hope that that ends up being the case eventually.

 

[dayvewc]

I hadn't read that. I sincerely hope that that ends up being the case eventually.

I tend to believe people, which sometimes fails.

But, I had to call tech support about issues related to the MDE/MDX online, happened to get a very friendly (and chatty) CM who got into a really interesting conversation about the FP+ stuff. Considering that I was transferred from the original CM help desk through 2 others, I felt like she was higher up the programming chain than the just a phone-answerer-help-desk-tech. (She was 4th person I was transferred to, and the 1st person who could fix my MDX problems....so, I felt I could trust what she said).

That being said, I couldn't pick her out of a lineup, don't know her actual position at Disney, and she could have just been blowing smoke. I don't think she was, but she could have been.

One of the things she adamant about was that park-hopping FP+ was on the way, simply too much negative feedback about not being able to do it. But also, that FP+ itself was causing enough problems that they weren't even going to attempt the enhancement until it was up and running smoothly. Her guesstimate timeframe was at least a year.

But yeah, I'm pretty excited about the possibility too.

 

[Born 2B a Princess]

When are you going? Where are you staying?

September 8-13, staying at CS.

 

[doconeill]

September 8-13, staying at CS.

Outside of parameters to get a MagicBand right now.

 

[jade1]

I hadn't read that. I sincerely hope that that ends up being the case eventually.

And my point was also along the lines of the new system can easily handle this kind of enhancement. So there is no reason to believe (IMO) that the current information releases are anything more than a starting point.

 

[ilovemk76]

Based on ride capacities at just DHS:

E-tickets 60% FP+ rate at 13 hours:
Toy Story Midway Mania!® - 12,500
The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror" 14,000
Rock n Roller Coaster® Starring Aerosmith 16,000
Total - 42,500

With an average attendance of 26,000 at DHS a day needing 78000 FP, you don't think it will be possible that some of these rides could be booked up and in demand? I think it is possible that 50% of the people going to DHS will figure out they need to book these a few days in advance, based on current knowledge, there are a lot of people who understand they have to get to the parks early get those headliners. TSMM proves that.

I don't see anything available for day of distribution even if you wanted to hop.

Not everybody wants to ride these three ride. I for one will only want TSM. I would prefer a FP to Fantasmic than RNRC or TOT.

Others will want Star Tours.

 

[Shaden]

Not everybody wants to ride these three ride. I for one will only want TSM. I would prefer a FP to Fantasmic than RNRC or TOT.

Others will want Star Tours.

yes but if even 50% want to ride those, Good luck getting the FPs you want ...

Also if 33% want to ride TSM, on an "average" day, Good luck with that.

Which, btw, means about 15% of the FP+s for any average day, will book TSM completely for FP entrance.

 

[Angel Ariel]

And my point was also along the lines of the new system can easily handle this kind of enhancement. So there is no reason to believe (IMO) that the current information releases are anything more than a starting point.

like i said, I hope they'll be able to do this. That kind of flexibility in programming will require a lot from the IT dept, and TBH Disney doesn't have a great track record with that. So, while i hope it will turn out that way, I remain skeptical.