Dooom and Glooom! Giggle. Dooom and Gloooom!
Wow! everyone just thinks the most horrible things - when the last testing phase seemed pretty positive. I think the new system will be a hybrid of the old with the new, and the tests show they allowed regular fast pass to work with new fast pass plus...but for some reason everyone thinks that old system will be going away with no ability to get same day FP or reserve ANY DAY you want ahead of time. all the tests have shown they will work together but not under the old system name, Fast Pass....
I know there have been rumors going around...but till it is actually live, we do not know if anything in the 'terms and conditions' is exactly what is going to happen because it's not live yet. There won't be paper FP tickets, but you will still be able to book same day reserved ride times - how do i know this? bcause we have seen this in the tests!
People were able to make adjustments on the fly, same day. How do you know you won't be able to book same day FP+?
HOW do you know this is fact 100% when all the tests show people have been able to make same day adjustments? Please deal in FACTS people!
I don't know. You don't know. We don't know, but of course everyone is yelling 'the sky is falling!' because we hate change.
Yea it might stink, it might be great, it might mean we change how we tour. But I sincerely doubt it will be like any one of us imagine.
Please stop coming up with doom and gloom imaginary stories of horror - it is confusing and makes people think these are actual facts.
Oh No! We don't know what is going to happen so instead of just waiting to hear the facts I am going to run in circles and yell 'The Sky is Falling!"
The positive things I'm hearing about during the test give me hope. Please please please work with facts rather then imagined moments of horror.
While the tone is very condescending, it is a good point that the system is NOT finalized as of yet. There are a few key points that are currently slated to be different with the latest proposed final system though:
1) Under current ToS and documentation, FP+ and old FP will not be compatible. It's either or, with the current FP system likely to be phased out.
2) Conjecture regarding saving FPRs for "same day" are abound, but based on the ADR system (the only other thing we have experience with to go on), they may not be holding back for "day of" reservations. (Just like they don't hold back tables for walk-ins). While booking some same day FP+s is very likely, the chances of them being for TSM, Splash, Space, Everest, Soarin', or Test Track is likely pretty low. The majority of these is likely (note how I'm using that word a lot

) to be gone by that day. Either there will be a very limited amount of "same day", or they'll be totally gone (if you thought walking into DHS to get a TSM FP before was rough, just wait until they cut the availability down by 95%!)
3) S/B lines for individual attractions are likely to grow. This is caused by 2 factors. One, with limited and preplanned FP+s, the amount of "missed" FPs is likely to drop. Two, they've altered the ratios and the amount of FPs given out for individual attractions (this is relatively accepted), thus pushing more people through FP and slowing down S/B. (This also grows the FP lines a bit, so the value of a FP is also decreasing). Under normal circumstances, the more FP riders may balance out, but they're also experiencing heavier crowds than they have in the past, which compounds the S/B issue a bit.
4) There are VERY limited people testing the system right now (and in past testing phases). This is a miniscule amount of load and demand compared to putting the entire thing online. While there may be same day FPs available now, since no one is booking 60 days out and only those participating and staying at 2 resorts are part of it, it serves as no indication of availability once the system goes live with 18 resorts, 60 days (+10) of prebooking, and the numerous offsite guests that show up.
Part of the issue is that there are no true, hard, confirmed facts. Even those testing the system right now don't have all the facts about how it's going to be implemented in the future. Given Disney's recent history with IT endeavors and the super high risk of the system in general, it's not surprising to see people aren't happy about it. It's not so much that it's changing, it's what it's changing to that most take issue with. Whether it's the 1 park per day limitations, the 3 FP+ only limitations, the potential for headliner FPs to be gone before you even travel, issues with WiFi/Data in the parks, or simply not wanting to be handcuffed to a crappy, barely functional app on their smartphones, there are many things to take issue with.
Fact is, I don't trust Disney to roll this out well. Sorry, but those days appear to be over. Their recent technology and even attractions rollouts have been pitiful. (ee the BOG bridge issue for one,
MDE app in Canada/overseas, MDE site in general, ADR issues, RSR mechanical issues (which happen to be the same as the TT mechanical issues they've dealt with for years...you'd think they'd learn how to improve it...), limited time merchandise over the past 2 anniversaries, and the recent rash of attraction and monorail issues they've been having for examples.
So, it could be the best thing since sliced bread, but with the published (and leaked) details and Disney's recent track record... I'm not holding my breath.