FP+ and changing your park

[Disney_dreamer]

OK - Just made our FP+ selections last night (website works like a charm at 2 a.m. btw)
As I was tweaking them I realized I could reset my entire day to a new park. For example, have 3 selections in for MK, then choose 3 new ones for EPCOT, and the site would ask me to confirm my changes to the EPCOT selections. Obviously this needs to be an option for people changing parks for whatever reason prior to beginning their vacation.

So my question is.... say I have my 3 FP+ selections in for MK. I use one of those selections at MK and decide "hey its raining" or "hey its too crowded here" or whatever and I am going to go over to EPCOT where there are more indoor attractions, less people, whatever. This is why I paid for a park hopper. I have 2 FP+ selections I haven't used and lets say it is still relatively early in the day.

Has anyone tried to reset their park on the my disney experience site or the mobile app once they have already been in the park and used a fast pass?

I assume (and maybe I am wrong) that if you don't use any FP+ it should allow you to do this.... but what if you have?

I am asking because I already have a feeling this kind of thing will happen with my family. I am not asking for more than the allowed 3 FP+ per day, but I sure would like my 3.

Anyone out there try this?

 

[Jennasis]

Park hopping is not allowed with FP+ at this time. What you are describing will not work.

 

[Disney_dreamer]

Park hopping is not allowed with FP+ at this time. What you are describing will not work.

I know for a fact you can not set up FP+ IN ADVANCE for multiple parks on the same day.

I know from the boards that people have use all 3 FP+ at their set park and have tried to get more for the same park or even a different park and they were not allowed.

I haven't read about anyone trying to select an new park through MDE with one or two fast passes remaining. This scenario would cancel what you have left and give you your new choices. So it is not planned park hopping because it is happening the same day and it is not trying to score more FP+ because you do have 1 or 2 left....
I am wondering if anyone has actually tried this. You might only be able to do this on the website (not the app and obviously not at an in park kiosk).
Are you closed out of changes on MDE once you use a fast pass for the day?

thanks for any info.

 

[Laketravis]

If I remember correctly (it was late Nov / early Dec), another park wasn't even an option on the day-of. After we used one or two FP's and tried to edit what was remaining, any options presented were for the same park.

And that was when I could get the app to work. It was really difficult back then, would always always always get the 'There was a blip in the network' error.

 

[Disney_dreamer]

If I remember correctly (it was late Nov / early Dec), another park wasn't even an option on the day-of. After we used one or two FP's and tried to edit what was remaining, any options presented were for the same park.

And that was when I could get the app to work. It was really difficult back then, would always always always get the 'There was a blip in the network' error.

I just opened up the app here at home and when I go into FastPass plus there are 4 options, the first one - "Make new FastPass+ selections or Replace existing selections". Tapping on this option brings up all 4 parks.

So it must be that this first option disappears altogether -
once you use a fast pass in your chosen park? , or....

is it no longer an option to change your park once the day has begun?? In other words, you just decide to go to an entirely different park that morning, can you make the change to a new park or are you locked in?

Sorry I am not trying to be pain - I just want to understand

 

[Laketravis]

If I remember correctly (it was late Nov / early Dec), another park wasn't even an option on the day-of. After we used one or two FP's and tried to edit what was remaining, any options presented were for the same park.

And that was when I could get the app to work. It was really difficult back then, would always always always get the 'There was a blip in the network' error.

See bold. I never tried changing all of them before going to the park on the day off, but your question was if the remaining choices could be made for another park after one or some were used in a different park and the answer is no.

 

[DavidNYC]

Also confirming answer is no. Tried it once to see what I'd get and it won't give you options in another park.

 

[Disney_dreamer]

Also confirming answer is no. Tried it once to see what I'd get and it won't give you options in another park.

okay - that makes sense (well, not really but I get it)

I just called Disney and the CM confirmed that once you use a FP selection you cannot change to a different park. However, if you do not redeem any of the Fast Pass selections you may change to a different park that same day.


SO, the good new is.... when my family gets up and is at the park at rope drop and we ride all the headliners we wanted standby with little or no wait (and so we don't use our FP+ selections) we can switch to another park for the afternoon and get fastpasses.......

 

[omurice]

My experience in Jan was this:
If you do not use ANY FP+ at your first park, and if it's not too late in the day, you can hop to a 2nd park and use FP+.
Scenario 1, used no FP at park #1 --
Say you're at MK in the morning and you decide to go to Epcot - if you booked all your FP at MK, and do not use any of them, and you cancel them before/while hopping over to Epcot (on the monorail say), you can book 3 new FP+ at park #2 provided it's not too late in the day. Note if you hopped to park#2 and it's 6:45PM say, system will only give you 2 FP+ there, because there are only 2 hours left in the day. FP grants time in one hour blocks.

Scenario 2, used 1 or 2 FP at park #1 --
Say you're at MK in the morning and you want to use your FP there. Even if you only use 1 or 2 FP at MK, you cannot cancel and re-use those remaining FP at another park. So I think the trigger or rule there is -- use a FP at park #1 means no FP at park #2.
NOTE you could plead your case to a CM with an iPad at a kiosk or guest relations place at park #2, but they don't have to give you FPs. They might, if they're in a good mood or you're very convincing, but they don't have to... so to get FP in 2 parks, for now you're completely at the mercy of CM w/ iPad or Guest Relations.


ADDITIONAL NOTE it seemed like one afternoon, my time passed for 1 FP before I park-hopped, so the system would only give me 2 FP in that 2nd park, though there were at least 3 hours time left before I got into park #2. I'm not certain if that was because FP #1 was past its time, or what.
My advice would be this: BEFORE that first FP hour time limit runs out, try to cancel ALL of your FP for the day in park #1 when you decide to park-hop, otherwise you could lose 1 or more FP. Try not to decide to park-hop after your first FP expired. You can always buy yourself more time by moving the first FP to later in the day.
...

 

[cigar95]

I know from the boards that people have use all 3 FP+ at their set park and have tried to get more for the same park or even a different park and they were not allowed.

I haven't read about anyone trying to select an new park through MDE with one or two fast passes remaining. This scenario would cancel what you have left and give you your new choices. So it is not planned park hopping because it is happening the same day and it is not trying to score more FP+ because you do have 1 or 2 left....
I am wondering if anyone has actually tried this. You might only be able to do this on the website (not the app and obviously not at an in park kiosk).
Are you closed out of changes on MDE once you use a fast pass for the day?

I should note that I did exactly this at an in-park kiosk last week. I had hopped to MK from the Studios, where I had used pre-reserved FP. When I left DHS, I tried using the app to make reservations at another park, but was not allowed. When I tapped my card at a kiosk in MK, though, I was presented with all the usual options, based on what was left. Because it was fairly close to closing, I only had the chance to choose one. Unclear how many I might have been able to reserve had I arrived earlier.

So at least for the testing bucket that my account was in, it was possible to make FP at a second park, but only once actually in the park.

 

[Disney_dreamer]

My experience in Jan was this:
If you do not use ANY FP+ at your first park, and if it's not too late in the day, you can hop to a 2nd park and use FP+.
Say you're at MK in the morning and you decide to go to Epcot - if you booked all your FP at MK, and do not use any of them, and you cancel them before/while hopping over to Epcot (on the monorail say), you can book 3 new FP+ at park #2 provided it's not too late in the day. Note if you hopped to park#2 and it's 6:45PM say, system will only give you 2 FP+ there, because there are only 2 hours left in the day. FP grants time in one hour blocks.



ADDITIONAL NOTE it seemed like one afternoon, my time passed for 1 FP before I park-hopped, so the system would only give me 2 FP in that 2nd park, though there were at least 3 hours time left before I got into park #2. I'm not certain if that was because FP #1 was past its time, or what.
My advice would be this: BEFORE that first FP hour time limit runs out, try to cancel ALL of your FP for the day in park #1 when you decide to park-hop, otherwise you could lose 1 or more FP. Try not to decide to park-hop after your first FP expired.
Now if you're hopping to Epcot or Studios though, you only NEED 1 or 2 FP there (since they are tiered) so, it may not matter much if they are park #2 for the day Epcot and HS are great to set as your second park for that very reason. Even late in the day, you can only get one "tier one" attraction there anyhow.

PS - the new system and the app are not 100% bug-free yet... the rules that MDE app and website work under, these seem overly complicated and
in a state of flux! It's going to be some time before these rules calm down and become predictable. My advice might not mean anyting in 2 months, especially if they lift the 1 park limit! here's hoping

thanks for the tips! It is good to know that an unused expired FP might count against you but it you cancel it, it does not. The CM I spoke with did not mention this...
She did seem to be bracing herself for a reaction from me about the inability to use FP+ and park hop. I would have to believe they are getting A LOT of grief from people. So here's hoping they lift the limit

 

[Disney_dreamer]

I should note that I did exactly this at an in-park kiosk last week. I had hopped to MK from the Studios, where I had used pre-reserved FP. When I left DHS, I tried using the app to make reservations at another park, but was not allowed. When I tapped my card at a kiosk in MK, though, I was presented with all the usual options, based on what was left. Because it was fairly close to closing, I only had the chance to choose one. Unclear how many I might have been able to reserve had I arrived earlier.

So at least for the testing bucket that my account was in, it was possible to make FP at a second park, but only once actually in the park.

okay - so let me make sure I understand.... you were presented with new selections at the in park kiosk at the NEW PARK so when you say "based on what was left" do you mean:
based on how many FP+ selections you had left (for example, you used 2 FP+ at the studios and had one left to use at MK)
OR
based on what Fastpasses were available to anyone at the MK? you say it was late in the day so there may not have been many fastpasses available to anyone at that time.

this is interesting....

 

[cigar95]

okay - so let me make sure I understand.... you were presented with new selections at the in park kiosk at the NEW PARK so when you say "based on what was left" do you mean:
based on how many FP+ selections you had left (for example, you used 2 FP+ at the studios and had one left to use at MK)
OR
based on what Fastpasses were available to anyone at the MK? you say it was late in the day so there may not have been many fastpasses available to anyone at that time.

this is interesting....

Yes, it's the latter. There were a few attractions "sold out", just because they were gone for the day. But otherwise, I could have chosen most of the MK attractions. (It was a slow day, so about 90 minutes before closing, there was still a lot to choose from.)

Also have to add, though, that my ability to do this could have been related to which testing bucket I was in.

 

[mom2rtk]

Yes, it's the latter. There were a few attractions "sold out", just because they were gone for the day. But otherwise, I could have chosen most of the MK attractions. (It was a slow day, so about 90 minutes before closing, there was still a lot to choose from.)

Also have to add, though, that my ability to do this could have been related to which testing bucket I was in.

What a shame then that there were spots left and people couldn't hop in and use them, or people in the MK all day who had used their 3 spots already couldn't use them.

What a WASTE!

 

[cigar95]

Given how light the crowds were that evening, most attractions had no need for FP anyway. That may be a big part of why passes were still out there - I only did it for experimental purposes.

And since I didn't try the kiosks at the Studios before I left, I can't guarantee that my card would not have allowed additional FP there - only that it couldn't be done via the app.

 

[Disney_dreamer]

Yes, it's the latter. There were a few attractions "sold out", just because they were gone for the day. But otherwise, I could have chosen most of the MK attractions. (It was a slow day, so about 90 minutes before closing, there was still a lot to choose from.)

Also have to add, though, that my ability to do this could have been related to which testing bucket I was in.

So you could get more FP+, just not with the app, and it is likely you needed to be at a kiosk AT THE PARK you are trying to get new FP+ for... And again, maybe this is just the way the system was working for you during the testing period you were in....

Either way, I am going to give this a shot. We will walk through EPCOT to get to MK our first morning. I will see if an EPCOT kiosk will give me any EPCOT FP+ once we return to EPCOT and have used 1 or all of our fastpasses at MK.

As a resort guest it is an advantage to pre-select FP+ and I can see why Disney needs to limit this to one park and 3 passes. But once I am actually standing in a park (at a kiosk) I wouldn't mind being treated at least like an offsite guest and have whatever is left available to me as a FP.

I wonder if anyone else has tried to get FP+ at a kiosk in the park they have hopped to after using one or all of their pre-reserved FP+ at their original park?

 

[Disney_dreamer]

What a shame then that there were spots left and people couldn't hop in and use them, or people in the MK all day who had used their 3 spots already couldn't use them.

What a WASTE!

I agree it is a shame! has anyone confirmed that once they have used all 3 FP+ they were not able to get anymore for the park they were in while using an in-park kiosk?
Based on what Cigar said, is it possible you could be given access to more FP+ once you have used all 3 as long as you are using an in-park kiosk?

 

[cigar95]

So you could get more FP+, just not with the app, and it is likely you needed to be at a kiosk AT THE PARK you are trying to get new FP+ for... And again, maybe this is just the way the system was working for you during the testing period you were in....

Yep, while my experiment was just done eleven days ago, it was still considered to be a "testing" period, so that so that different guests may be in different testing buckets and their cards may work slightly differently.

There are a number of experiments that we would like to see, based on trying to get FP at various times, in various parks, using various gateways, and considering how many of the existing reservations have/have not been used. I only did the one experiment.