Fox News in hot water

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by Galahad
I though they were there to report the news.

That's what I thought as well...

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by Van Helsing
The BBC do a great job in my eyes


They're there to reflect the views of the British people which i think they do very well

Which says quite a bit about the British & their views If their views (& the views of the BBC) are at all similar to yours, then Fox News was, as usual, right on the money.

 

[AlanUK]

Originally posted by N.Bailey
Page 1 of 48,200 pages of a google search to explain this bias to you if you're not sure what it is.


http://www.bbcbias.org/html/objectives.html

http://www.ukip.org/index.php?menu=campaigns&page=campaignsbbcbias

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/11/08/nfee08.xml

http://www.tvlicensing.biz/links/

Having read through these links I am still not sure how the BBC is supposedly Bias. What I do know is that the organisation at the centre of these pieces objects to the way the BBC is funded and run which is not an uncommon point of view in the UK, and something that has recently hit the headlines thanks to the Hutton report.

IMO the BBC is pretty even handed for a media organisation, and I struggle to think of any examples I have noticed of it being overtly anti-american.

Alan.

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by ThreeCircles
Ahhh... And we know that if it's on the Internet, it's fact!

You mean like "Ketchup is a vegetable", "Bush was AWOL", "Bush is a cocaine addict", that kind of stuff?

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by AlanUK
Having read through these links I am still not sure how the BBC is supposedly Bias. What I do know is that the organisation at the centre of these pieces objects to the way the BBC is funded and run which is not an uncommon point of view in the UK, and something that has recently hit the headlines thanks to the Hutton report.

IMO the BBC is pretty even handed for a media organisation, and I struggle to think of any examples I have noticed of it being overtly anti-american.

Alan.

I'm not sure I'd say the Beeb is overtly anti-american as much as they are anit-Iraq war, which is fine. But, as someone else said, I thought they were just support the news.

The Gilligan issue was certainly an embarrasment and indicitive of the BBC's position on the war.

 

[Eeyore1954]

I don't know of any network that just reports the news anymore, if any ever really did. I think there's always been "spin" involved in the selection, placement and editing of the news. It just appears to be more pronounced today -- thus easier to see.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

I always go to Reuters first to get the news. Do they put a spin on the news?

 

[Van Helsing]

IMO the BBC is pretty even handed for a media organisation

Yip they're not owned by one man or hand out money to political parties

 

[Eeyore1954]

Originally posted by Van Helsing
Yip they're not owned by one man or hand out money to political parties

It's sad that some people don't understand the concepts of free enterprise and a free political system (although in the U.S. we are trying awfully hard to restrict the political contribution freedoms we've enjoyed for decades ).

 

[dmadman43]

Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
I always go to Reuters first to get the news. Do they put a spin on the news?

yes

 

[wdwdvcdad]

see above for the perfect response!

 

[Disney Doll]

And we should care about this why????

 

[Van Helsing]

Hi Disney Doll

You don't have to care about

 

[GaryAdams]

VH, for someone who is from the Netherlands,you sure seem worried about the uk.
guess you must have nothing better to do with your life then worry about a country where you dont even live?

oh thats right you spend lot of time bashing america too.......



btw,FOX hit it right on the head about the BBC

 

[vernon]

Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch so IMHO it's an Australian company not an English or American one. So why it should bother or be of interest to any Americans if Fox and the BBC have a dust up is a bit of a mystery to me.

Fox have a vested interest in any damage it can do to the BBC because they are desperate to have the British Government revoke the BBC's licence and to upset the status quo in British media. Murdoch HATES and covets the position the BBC has both in the UK and throughout the world. While the BBC is a part player in the US throughout the rest of the world it is very often the #2 choice ( at worst) of news coverage in virtually every country. Murdoch is a Machiavellian character who wishes to be able to influence politics and politicians all over the world, the fact he can't quite (yet) elbow the BBC out the way is a constant source of anguish to him.

Getting back to whether the BBC or biased or not, all media are biased to some degree. In most topics I think the BBC does a better job than most at providing balance ( if you know where to look for it) but the particular topic of the war on Iraq is a subject the BBC has gone out on a limb to be critisise the actions of both Bush and Blair's governments. Whether one believes that action is an unfair bias or good journalism digging out the misdeeds of a questionable government really depends on where you stand on the issue. As I think the reasons given for going to war were bogus, I tend to think the BBC has done a good job, but I don't doubt that their journalists worked a lot harder to dig up stories that damned the war than they did with stories that supported it.

IMHO the BBC has been biased in the same way that Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein were biased when they broke the Watergate story that buried tricky Dicky Nixon.

 

[Galahad]

Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch so IMHO it's an Australian company

While he faces some obstacles from Australian regulators, Murdoch announced a couple of months ago that he intends to move News Corp (as a business entity) to the U.S.

 

[Loftus]

Quick, basic google search on "news org" and bias reveals:-

CNN - 146,000 hits
Fox - 65,200
ABC - 30,000
BBC - 23,400
CBS - 21,000
NBC - 9,010

Guess we should all NBC.

 

[Van Helsing]

Gary i wasn't worried about the UK, it was Fox i was worried about

Hows the donations going this weather

I think you got it spot on Vernon

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by dmadman43
yes

Atleast they get the news first! So if everybody puts a spin on the news, then nothing we hear is ever unbiased? You got to get it from somewhere, though!

 

[jrydberg]

News organizations don't just report anymore. Take the New York Times, for example. Look at the front page today compared to 40 years ago. There's a lot more opinion in the news stories. Why? No, there's not some liberal conspiracy. Competition among news media has become exponentially more intense. That goes for TV, radio, newspapers, etc. Merely reporting events does not distinguish one media outlet from another. In this age of competition, the media outlets need to have something to draw people to them and not their competitors. The BBC and Fox News are doing the same thing from different angles.