For you smokers out there......

[Dean]

you mean in your opinion they are both offensive.

Actually only the smoking is offensive, in my opinion.

 

[Luigi's Girl]

Very simple: Smoking rooms have smoking balconies. Non-smoking rooms have non-smoking balconies.

Therefore, if I see someone smoking on a non-smoking balcony I will assume they are on fire and pound them with my fully loaded SuperSoaker.

Rinkwide, didn't you read the memo that water is more offensive than cigar smoke???

 

[Joe&Peg]

The dialog is offensive ......

Make some accomodation for smokers, most smokers would be more than happy to abide.

Make accomodation for non-smokers, most are more than happy if they don't have to confront the issue.

Some smokers are spoiling for a fight...some non-smokers are spoiling for a fight.

"a fool convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

 

[DrTomorrow]

Last June when we checked into SSR my wife asked for a smoking room. We were told at the front desk that there were non available and to just onto the balcony. [...]

bpmorley, take this:

Uh, your guide will tend to tell you what you want to hear. I suggest you call Member Services instead.

and replace 'guide' with 'front desk CM'.

"a fool convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

"a fool who thinks his smoke won't drift isn't really very swift."

IMHO - YMMV - Be well!

 

[Luigi's Girl]

"a fool who thinks his smoke won't drift isn't really very swift."

IMHO - YMMV - Be well!

Not trying to offend anyone but that cracked me up!!!

 

[prez65]

I am a smoker....My wife quit over 5 years ago. Even when we both smoked we never smoked in our home. If we wanted a cigarette we would go outside.
I have children and do not want to subject them to smoke.

I also (believe it or not) hate the smell of homes or cars that people smoke in.

Whenever I go on vacation...I always request a non-smoking room...when I want to smoke I go outside....even if it means a long walk to get outside.

The thing that concerns me...is if they do ban smoking rooms from hotels or especially dvc...some smokers might smoke in the rooms anyway....there is realy no way to police that situation.

So take away the smoking rooms and the non-smoking rooms will be used to smoke in and this will become a bigger issue than having a few rooms set aside for smokers.

 

[Dean]

The thing that concerns me...is if they do ban smoking rooms from hotels or especially dvc...some smokers might smoke in the rooms anyway....there is realy no way to police that situation.

I disagree, I think it is not difficult to police blatant violations with hefty fines and enforcement. And in spite of some people's concerns, I think it is not difficult to do so in almost all cases and be accurate as to the offending party. I know other timeshares and hotels that do so on an ongoing basis.

 

[bpmorley]

DrT, what am I being convinced of? All balconies are smoking!! end of story.

 

[keishashadow]

Does FL/Orlando/WDW have any clean air acts in place?

In my area all public dining/drinking establishments are now smoke free.

Most school districts forbid smoking (minors & adults) on their grounds - even athletic fields.

Know that MK is the only major park @ WDW that's alcohol free but, never noticed if the parks are non-smoking. Can't say that I remember ever standing in line & noticing anyone lighting up.

As an ex-smoker, if you have to try & convince someone that their smoke is offensive, give up - they just don't "get it".

 

[Joe&Peg]

Parks have clearly designated smoking areas, all outdoors. The rest of the parks, including all attractions, dining areas, and lines are non-smoking.

 

[keishashadow]

a very reasonable compromise

Parks have clearly designated smoking areas, all outdoors. The rest of the parks, including all attractions, dining areas, and lines are non-smoking.

 

[Nanajo1]

No such thing as a non-smoking balcony. Just got that answer from my DVC guide.

In my opinion DVC guides are not a good source for correct info.

 

[dianeschlicht]

In my opinion DVC guides are not a good source for correct info.

I agree. I have spoken to a manager at OKW when I was bothered by smoke in my non-smoking building room. Not sure where it came from (could have been the balcony), but they took care of it, and the next day there was no problem at all!

 

[NMW]

ok, to each their own. I just can't see telling someone they can't smoke outside. And I don't smoke.

If someone was smoking on the next balcony in an area that I knew to be non-smoking, I may call the desk to complain. I believe that a hotel can tell someone they can not smoke on the balcony, since they are in fact "standing" on hotel property. The air may belong to everyone, but the balcony belongs to the hotel.

 

[rinkwide]

...All balconies are smoking!! end of story.

It's such a relief to finally have a definitive answer.

 

[JerJan]

So take away the smoking rooms and the non-smoking rooms will be used to smoke in and this will become a bigger issue than having a few rooms set aside for smokers.

That's funny.............

So far 3 out of the last 4 times that I have checked in at a DVC villa my "NON-SMOKING" room had already been "SMOKED" in!!!! It's already a problem that is unresolved!

 

[PBB]

I am amazed at this debate. Perhaps, they should take down the BBQ grills as well because they release smoke and they can spread through the resort. In fact, they do allow smoking inside at Epcot...........inside Spaceship earth when Rome is in ruins.....

It still boils down to consideration and common sense. Disney does not want people smoking inside in places that are non-smoking. Disney does not view this rule to extend outside on the balconies. You can call management all you want, however, they will not do anything. That being said......the smoker should be considerate prior to smoking if they hear voices and such on the balconies. If there are people around then take a walk.......it is not the end of the world.

 

[bpmorley]

I am amazed at this debate. Perhaps, they should take down the BBQ grills as well because they release smoke and they can spread through the resort. In fact, they do allow smoking inside at Epcot...........inside Spaceship earth when Rome is in ruins.....

It still boils down to consideration and common sense. Disney does not want people smoking inside in places that are non-smoking. Disney does not view this rule to extend outside on the balconies. You can call management all you want, however, they will not do anything. That being said......the smoker should be considerate prior to smoking if they hear voices and such on the balconies. If there are people around then take a walk.......it is not the end of the world.

You are correct PBB. Consideration is the key here. That wasn't the point of the post though. People were complaining about smoking on "non-smoking" balconies, of which there are no such thing. But then again, what if the smoker just had a long day at the parks? They won't want to walk anymore. Smokers are people too. I'm sure it's like anything else, there will be considerate ones and there will be the ones that don't care. The point I was trying to make was that if someone is smoking, you can't demand that they stop.

 

[thelobstershanty]

Interesting idea. If a whole building is non-smoking and the balcony is part of the building, how does DVC justify that? I actually would have no problems if someone was out on the sidewalk sitting on one of the benches smoking a cigar, but I would have an issue with them sitting on the balcony above or below mine.

Smoking is allowed on all balconies in all WDW resorts. A non smoking building means for the interior of the building. The balconies are not part of the inside of the building, so smoking is allowed on all balconies at all WDW resorts. We have asked MS about this and have been given this answer on several occasions.
If someone is sitting on their balcony and they are disturbed by the smoke they can go inside and close the balcony door. The smoke will not drift inside a villa if the balcony door is closed.

 

[Nanajo1]

If someone is sitting on their balcony and they are disturbed by the smoke they can go inside and close the balcony door. The smoke will not drift inside a villa if the balcony door is closed.

It is sad that a guest who does not enjoy the smell of cigarette smoke can't enjoy the balcony because another guest needs to smoke.