For the First Time in Forever... I Did Not Enjoy My Vacation to Disney World

The new gold passes work better for ME. I have never gone during those blackout dates. And now I get PhotoPass for all of my trips for $40 instead of $160 per trip.

Neither do I...but if i buy these passes I couldn't if I wanted to...

That's a rule that reduces the value of the tickets nonetheless.

And didn't you say you had been there 7 times in 18 months?
At what point does the photopass become redundant?
 
Neither do I...but if i buy these passes I couldn't if I wanted to...

That's a rule that reduces the value of the tickets nonetheless.

And didn't you say you had been there 7 times in 18 months?
At what point does the photopass become redundant?

And the photo pass increases the value. Certainly some of those trips are redundant. However, we went with another family this April. I am going in November with my sister and her family. And I am taking my daughter and her friends next April. I wouldn't have purchased MM for every trip, but for $40 to have it for all of them, its a benefit to me. I am upgrading my non black out date AP to the Gold.
 
So you ARE saying you would choose to wait in line even if there was a fast pass available. Interesting. Different strokes I guess.

You're assuming that there was a constant wait. Not to lecture, but try not to think about fastpasses in terms of being the only way to successfully tour the parks. It's not an absolute - if there's no fastpass then I must stand in this particular line and wait for an hour. You do have the option to walk further down the path and circle back.

We were there during two weeks ago. About average in crowds I would say, and the longest we waited for an attraction was maybe fifteen minutes. If the attraction had a long line we simply went to another. We got to the parks early and hit the big ticket items first. Those others that typically had minimal or no wait most of the time were hit later in the day. Would a fastpass saved five or ten minutes in one of the 'longer' lines? Perhaps, but again I never bothered to check for one in the first place because there was no need and it's not my style. I didn't need to reserve a space in line two months ahead and plan down to the last detail in order to consider the trip a success, and if a fifteen minute wait is the penalty I have to pay then so be it. It's a small price to pay to avoid the negatives (subjective) associated with having to plan the day out way in advance. Granted, if this or any other trip resulted in continuously standing in lines half an hour or more regardless of the touring style then fastpass would have been a forced option, but there are ways to navigate and avoid locking yourself in.
 
Fastpass have had a "currency" value for a long time. Even when they were paper if there were issues you could get a good at any attraction FP as an apology. They were called No String Cards. I'm sure those still exsist as they are used for merchandise and food replacement as well but they were once valid for rides. They still use them at Disneyland.

I can't speak to Disneyland because I've never been there, but in Orlando the fastpass concept has evolved into a level of complexity and desire far beyond the paper days. Disney has associated value to fastpasses by rationing them out and pushing for reservations before you get to the park. Only so many can be taken and when the window to reserve opens, there's a mad digital rush to grab them before they're gone and people eagerly wait for others who have 'grabbed the gold' to release them if they don't want them. There's an Anna and Elsa fastpass cancellation thread floating around for November - just the month of November - and it's got nearly five thousand views and the month is only half over. It's almost to the point they're coveted, and they're gratefully accepted as compensation for any mishap.
 

You're assuming that there was a constant wait. Not to lecture, but try not to think about fastpasses in terms of being the only way to successfully tour the parks. It's not an absolute - if there's no fastpass then I must stand in this particular line and wait for an hour. You do have the option to walk further down the path and circle back.

We were there during two weeks ago. About average in crowds I would say, and the longest we waited for an attraction was maybe fifteen minutes. If the attraction had a long line we simply went to another. We got to the parks early and hit the big ticket items first. Those others that typically had minimal or no wait most of the time were hit later in the day. Would a fastpass saved five or ten minutes in one of the 'longer' lines? Perhaps, but again I never bothered to check for one in the first place because there was no need and it's not my style. I didn't need to reserve a space in line two months ahead and plan down to the last detail in order to consider the trip a success, and if a fifteen minute wait is the penalty I have to pay then so be it. It's a small price to pay to avoid the negatives (subjective) associated with having to plan the day out way in advance. Granted, if this or any other trip resulted in continuously standing in lines half an hour or more regardless of the touring style then fastpass would have been a forced option, but there are ways to navigate and avoid locking yourself in.

Who said anything about reserving one 2 months in advance? You can book your fastpasses on the bus on the way to the park that day. Again, I agree that you don't NEED fastpasses to have a good trip. But I can't see how it could hurt to make some the day of.
 
The principal idea of vacation is (or at least was) to escape the forced march that dominates our daily lives. At home or at work, you are more or less in reactionary mode. Whether it's the boss, kids, or someone else you're usually doing something that's in response to something else, so it's no surprise that as many of us used Disney as an escape we've now become disgruntled because we have to repeat the same chore-like behavior to visit a place that you could previously easily wing and have a fabulous time.

We "wing" every morning and have a fabulous time.

Its also no wonder some of us now enjoy not having to worry about what the next morning plan is at WDW. Furthermore not having to worry about what spur of the moment late night plans evolve into.

We always reserve late afternoon into the evening FP+, that way our mornings are always wide open to open which ever park we want, or skip it all together. If we do open a park-we get everything we want done by lunch anyway, then we can go back and enjoy our resort for the afternoon (or rest) knowing we have a great evening already set up for us. Those evenings used to suck in comparison.

When I hear folks claim that the planning is one of the 'fun' aspects of visiting Disney I wonder if that's really true, or is it because we've become so comfortable with having to plan that spontaneous activities actually invoke a bit of fear.

When we travel to Disney I still refuse to get fast passes (we have not needed a fast pass for Seven Dwarfs yet and manage to ride it each trip without having to wait forever in line) or advanced dinner reservations for the most part.

I'd rather see a small portion and leave happy and refreshed than to see the whole thing and drag myself back home exhausted and drained.

Agreed-you really don't even need FP+, (at least we don't since we open a park most days), but for those of us that like taking a break, then returning for the evening-they are wonderful to have.

We never return drained anymore, we used to try to get up every day, and often to another park just in case there was a good FP left. But now there is plenty of time to rest when ever we want.
 
Who said anything about reserving one 2 months in advance? You can book your fastpasses on the bus on the way to the park that day. Again, I agree that you don't NEED fastpasses to have a good trip. But I can't see how it could hurt to make some the day of.

Oh come on...that vastly limits your choice on many if not most days. Let's not defend the downside of a policy for "poor disney" here...

You can like the system...or not like it...by they have plenty of Wall Street sharks to carry th bucket for them - you need not.
 
[QUOTE="lockedoutlogic, post: 54738988, member: 147651"]Oh come on...that vastly limits your choice on many if not most days. Let's not defend the downside of a policy for "poor disney" here...

You can like the system...or not like it...by they have plenty of Wall Street sharks to carry th bucket for them - you need not.[/QUOTE]

So? If you weren't going to use them anyway, what's the problem?
 

You're still swallowing a large price increase backed up on 6 years of unrelenting price increases...

At the end of the day, all the Adam smith/"capitalism"/ "free market" defenses - which never really were correct in Disney's bubble in the swamp - can't change this fact.

The consumers are just guzzling it down to easily/without thought. There is no legitimate reason to swallow increases right now with the state of the parks...but to suggest such a thing is more shouting at the wind than not...

So I guess I'll have to turn east, huh?
 
[QUOTE="lockedoutlogic, post: 54738988, member: 147651"]Oh come on...that vastly limits your choice on many if not most days. Let's not defend the downside of a policy for "poor disney" here...

You can like the system...or not like it...by they have plenty of Wall Street sharks to carry th bucket for them - you need not.

So? If you weren't going to use them anyway, what's the problem?[/QUOTE]

Wrong guy
 
You're still swallowing a large price increase backed up on 6 years of unrelenting price increases...

At the end of the day, all the Adam smith/"capitalism"/ "free market" defenses - which never really were correct in Disney's bubble in the swamp - can't change this fact.

The consumers are just guzzling it down to easily/without thought. There is no legitimate reason to swallow increases right now with the state of the parks...but to suggest such a thing is more shouting at the wind than not...

So I guess I'll have to turn east, huh?

It costs me $40 to add Photo Pass to my next 3 trips. That is over $100 less than paying for it once.
 
Wrong guy

I have the right guy. You were against booking fastpasses in advance. Anything you book 60 days in advance is a "well...maybe if". Obviously that means you don't want to use them then right?

"Once you book them...nobody else can. I hope that the "well...maybe if" policy you're advocating is very limited"
 
I have the right guy. You were against booking fastpasses in advance. Anything you book 60 days in advance is a "well...maybe if". Obviously that means you don't want to use them then right?

"Once you book them...nobody else can. I hope that the "well...maybe if" policy you're advocating is very limited"

Nope...wrong guy.

I'm not 100% against fast pass...I was rejecting the notion of using them as a contingency plan and the notion that Disney forcing preplanned micromanagement doesn't SUCK for a lot of people.

Cause it do...
 
Nope...wrong guy.

I'm not 100% against fast pass...I was rejecting the notion of using them as a contingency plan and the notion that Disney forcing preplanned micromanagement doesn't SUCK for a lot of people.

Cause it do...

There is a big difference between a "contingency plan" and "I don't want to lock myself in 60 days in advance". There is nothing wrong with having a rough plan 60 days out and booking FP accordingly. And if/when your plans change, you change your FP.
 
There is a big difference between a "contingency plan" and "I don't want to lock myself in 60 days in advance". There is nothing wrong with having a rough plan 60 days out and booking FP accordingly. And if/when your plans change, you change your FP.

The counter to that is...of course...is IF you can change your plans...

Because it's not so easily done if you are trying to do/work around specific things.
 
It costs me $40 to add Photo Pass to my next 3 trips. That is over $100 less than paying for it once.

Obviously you are a big user/proponent of the photopass...and I'm sure there are many...

But many are not.

Doesn't it seem like they're "throwing in" something that is declining in popularity anyway?

Everything is and will continue to get more digital/portable as time goes on with technology...as
We have seen dramatically for 15 years.

I think 8"x10" glossies may be going the way of the Dodo.

So I'd keep
My money...to be honest.
 
You're still swallowing a large price increase backed up on 6 years of unrelenting price increases...

The consumers are just guzzling it down to easily/without thought. There is no legitimate reason to swallow increases right now with the state of the parks...but to suggest such a thing is more shouting at the wind than not...

We/many of us have a legitimate reason to gladly swallow the price increases. You just refuse to believe/understand it.

You cannot deny that a lot of us tour/ed WDW by doing RD, taking an afternoon break, and returning to the parks at night.

With the old system, the evenings were much less successful, and much more stressful as the good FP's were gone, even though we would rush and give it a try. The headliners were an hour plus by then.

With FP+, the evenings are way better as there is no reason to rush or wonder if any FP will still be available. We waited in all of those lines while the FP line rolled by.

And the best thing is, it can be a different park all together, and can be any time of the year.

So we can RD AK and finish by noon (as always), then after our afternoon break (it is Florida and usually in the winter when we go), we can meander into MK with no rush for 7DMT/BTMRR/Space (all would have been and hour plus) as well as the parade/castle show/Wishes and any SB as well. Another night is TSM/TOT/ST and Fantasmic.

That is worth way more IMO.
 
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Obviously you are a big user/proponent of the photopass...and I'm sure there are many...

But many are not.

Doesn't it seem like they're "throwing in" something that is declining in popularity anyway?

Everything is and will continue to get more digital/portable as time goes on with technology...as
We have seen dramatically for 15 years.

I think 8"x10" glossies may be going the way of the Dodo.


So I'd keep
My money...to be honest.

Huh? PhotoPass is all digital. What 8x10 glossy are you referring?
 











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