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[faithinkarma]

Minnie....good to see you too.

 

[faithinkarma]

Originally posted by Lebjwb
So tell us how are you going to celebrate when Kerry Wins?

With a drink in hand, a huge smile on my face, my dancing shoes on, and a deep sense of relief.

 

[binny]

Hi Guys


Sorry to invade your thread but I found this on the freebie board and thought you all might appreciate it ( well those of you who can attend might at least )
Have a great day!!
Robin

We have an exciting update about the Fresh Start for America Rally with John Kerry in Madison on Thursday, October 28. In addition to Dave Grohl of the Foo Fighters, Bruce Springsteen will also be taking the stage to perform live.

Come to the rally and find out how you can get involved in these final days leading up to the election. Volunteer mobilization will begin at the rally: Bring your cell phone with you to help create the world's largest open-air phonebank to get out the vote.

Tickets are required for the rally. If you haven't already printed your complimentary ticket(s), please click here:

http://www.johnkerry.com/madison

WHEN: Thursday, October 28
Gates open at 10:00 a.m.
WHERE: State Capitol Square
Madison, WI
DETAILS: Due to security, please do not bring any umbrellas, bags, or signs. Please limit personal items as well. This event will take place RAIN or SHINE. Parking is limited -- please use public transportation.

 

[LisaZoe]

Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
Lol, she has all of this "naked" stuff in her profile. She sounds like a true conservative to me: NOT!

I guess ya never can tell, lol!

Have a nice afternoon everyone!

You know, I'd assumed that user was male. Guess that shows a bias on my part... How many of you are surprised when you learn the gender, age or other of a poster is not what you expected?

 

[faithinkarma]

Well I did it. I went out into the main page to look for the word game threads. And I saw all the anti Kerry threads. How could I not? They abound ! They really are a bunch of hysterical posters aren't they? And they look so damned cute in their little tinfoil hats !

 

[Island_Lauri]

Some recent polls from

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/


State Bush Kerry Oct

Florida 46% 49% 23-25

Ohio 47% 49% 23-25

Pennsylvania 47% 50% 23-25

Wisconsin 47% 47% 16-19

New Mexico 46% 48% 16-18

New Hampshire 47% 46% 16-18

Oregon 44% 49% 9-12

Iowa 47% 47% 10-12



And another poll that won't make Bet happy:

Florida - US Senate

10/25/2004
Castor (D) 50%
Martinez (R) 47%

 

[Island_Lauri]

A post for the others that visit our thread from time to time and won't be happy when Kerry wins:


By Glenn Reynolds

"In seven days we will have an election. If there is a merciful Higher Power, we will also have a winner and a loser. Although this has been a long and bitterly partisan campaign, it will be important for both sides to reach out to each other in the aftermath. We don’t know who will win, but it may be worth reflecting on what to do if a non-victorious scenario develops (the word “lose” is banished from the vocabulary until Nov. 3).

As an unrelenting Republican, I have what I hope is helpful advice for folks on my side who may feel a bit lost as they try to come to terms with what might yet become a Kerry Presidency. Think of this as a little preparation to help ease the shock of transition.

First, the Recovering Republican needs to be able to come to terms with The Other. Do you have a friend or colleague whose endless praise of Michael Moore has left the two of you estranged? I recommend being the first to extend the olive branch. Then, when the other fellow extends his hand in friendship, you have a good, solid object with which to smite him. Hah! But that can only provide a fleeting satisfaction. For the longer term, you must focus on the positives of a Kerry victory. Let me help you find them.

Kerry didn’t win, Hillary lost! That’s right. Hillary’s plans will be on hold until 2012 if Kerry is successful. True, Recovering Republicans don’t expect Kerry to be successful, but really, what is our track record here – lots of people thought Clinton did fine, right? Well, lots of other people thought he did fine, anyway. And you had better be rooting for Kerry to succeed – there is a war on, and failure is not an option.


These times demand the Times, and you can go back to reading it. Admit it – the Times is a great paper, but it has been so anti-Bush that you can only look at it after you take two aspirin and duct tape your mouth. Under Kerry, those days will be but a grim memory. Now, you can smile each morning as the Times tries to undo two years of bias in two months by putting Kerry under the microscope. Enjoy!


Did we lose the White House? It’s only a flesh wound! With a Republican Congress, Kerry can’t do too much harm. Our hopes are pinned on Frist and DeLay now. Sorry, I was trying to be upbeat with that – let’s go on.


Relax while someone else tries to spin the latest outrage. Putting a Democrat in charge might actually make their party take a little bit of responsibility for the events of the day. This might be bracing for them, and amusing for the rest of us.
The Washington Post has a fair and balanced endorsement of John Kerry. David Broder highlights the strengths and flaws of each candidate but does not pick one. Daniel Drezner tilts for Kerry, with reservations; Gregory Djerejian makes the long case for Bush, also with reservations.

The upshot – yes, this election may decide the fate of Western Civilization. But smart and concerned citizens are finding good reasons to be on either side. Trust the people to decide. And remember to exhale."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3395977/

 

[Therapeutic Smile]

Originally posted by Island_Lauri
Some recent polls from

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/

Oregon 44% 49% 9-12

This is the only one you listed that isn't a statistical tie, unfortunately. We all have to keep in mind that anything within 5 points is essentially a tie, as most polls have a MOE between 3-4%.

 

[Therapeutic Smile]

Originally posted by Island_Lauri
Did we lose the White House? It's only a flesh wound! With a Republican Congress, Kerry can't do too much harm. Our hopes are pinned on Frist and DeLay now. Sorry, I was trying to be upbeat with that� let's go on.

Now THAT is a Republican with a sense of humor!

 

[robinb]

Originally posted by binny
We have an exciting update about the Fresh Start for America Rally with John Kerry in Madison on Thursday, October 28. In addition to Dave Grohl of the Foo Fighters, Bruce Springsteen will also be taking the stage to perform live.

Thanks Robin! I already have tickets . I'll be bringing my daughter with me. I just heard that The Boss was going to be there and I have not seen him play since one of his tours in the 1980's. I'm very excited! For those of you planning to go, the rally has been moved a bit off the square to West Washington Ave and they're expecting over 60,000 people. That's because anyone can get a ticket, not like Bush rallys where only those who are pre-approved by the Bush campaign get tickets.

 

[peachgirl]

On the question of why people are voting for Bush...

My question is, why are they voting Republican???

I ask this because of our local Senate elections here in Oklahoma.

We have a Democrat, Brad Carson who is so conservative that I don't really care much for him...pro gun, supports an amendment against gay marriage and wouldn't be caught dead in the same room as John Kerry.

The Republican is Tom Coburn, who happens to be an OBGYN. He's so radically right wing that it's frightening.

He's come out against Indian benefits, claims that a majority of those Indians on the rolls are lying....and in Oklahoma you might as well say you're going to end Social Security as to knock Indian programs. He's anti-abortion and has said that he thinks that any doctor who performs an abortion should get the death penalty. He's got a penchant for sterilizing poor, young women who have more than one child while he has them in surgery for other proceduces! He had a 20 year old file a lawsuit against him for doing this very thing. The records show that she did not authorize him to sterilize her!

And yet, Coburn and Carson are in a virtual dead heat!

Granted, this is for the seat that has been filled for many years by a lousy, do nothing Republican named Don Nichols.....but still, just how evil do you have to be before a Republican won't vote for you just because you have an "R" beside your name?

And now, I'd like some pixie dust and hugs in sympathy for being in an area where it's not safe to say I'm Democrat!!!

 

[dmadman43]

PMFJI, but Carson sounds like what a Democrat used to be. Would it be better to vote the candidate and not the party? If the candidate stands more for what you believe is important and will deliver what he says, should party really matter?

 

[peachgirl]

Originally posted by dmadman43
PMFJI, but Carson sounds like what a Democrat used to be. Would it be better to vote the candidate and not the party? If the candidate stands more for what you believe is important and will deliver what he says, should party really matter?

I don't disagree. However, I find it impossible to believe that even half of the people in Oklahoma believe in sterilization for poor women and the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions.

So, my only conclusion is that they are voting for Coburn because he's a Republican.


Does party matter? In my case, I could say that I vote for the man and not the party but I'm not sure what the difference is. I've never found a Republican to vote for that I could agree with. Since I don't believe in throwing my vote away on third party candidates that have no chance to win, that leaves me voting Democrat every time.

I may not care for Carson's positions, but he is most definitely the lesser of two evils. The fact that this election is a dead heat proves that some Republicans aren't voting party lines, but many of them are. In this particular race, the Republicans should be enjoying a rout instead of sweating out a close one.

 

[LoraJ]

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=369

 

[faithinkarma]

Bush Stance on Civil Unions Upsets Groups


http://www.newsday.com/news/politic...,4169546.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

I don't think we should deny people rights to a civil union, a legal arrangement, if that's what a state chooses to do so," Bush said in an interview aired Tuesday on ABC. Bush acknowledged that his position put him at odds with the Republican platform, which opposes civil unions.

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
Bush Stance on Civil Unions Upsets Groups


http://www.newsday.com/news/politic...,4169546.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

Actually its not a flip flop, he's been OK with civil unions as he described in the debates. He opposes gay marriage.

Will you be voting in the US election?

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by dmadman43
PMFJI, but Carson sounds like what a Democrat used to be. Would it be better to vote the candidate and not the party? If the candidate stands more for what you believe is important and will deliver what he says, should party really matter?

You know, it's nice to see you on here because you know how to act civily.

In my experience, the party usually embodies the same, or similar beliefs as the candidate. Most of the time.

 

[ThAnswr]

Originally posted by minniepumpernickel
Well, you are very smart and knowledgable, like a lot of other people on this thread.

Thank you for those kind words.

 

[ThAnswr]

Originally posted by faithinkarma
Bush Stance on Civil Unions Upsets Groups


http://www.newsday.com/news/politic...,4169546.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

Ahhh, the smell of desperation.

Now Bush is for "civil union". Yeah, sure. What's next: Bush believes in a woman's right to choose?

Anyway, let's examine this flip-flop, pardon me, clarification of Bush's position, for a dose of reality.

Bush coming out (no pun intended) for civil union says the following things:

1) he believes he has the religious vote in the bag no matter what

2) the religious vote isn't going to do it for him, so he has to start fishing for more votes.

There's no way on God's green earth that George Bush would come out for civil union if he didn't need the votes. It kind of tells you the internal polls aren't as rosy as the Bush operatives say publicly.

 

[LoraJ]

Why do the Kerry people keep changing my banner? I liked it when it was the Kerry's plans thing.