Food Stamp question

[Marionnette]

Maybe grandma is taking them.

Of course, the famed "gift trip"! Grandma sees her kids struggling and instead of buying a bag of groceries, she takes them to Disney. It happens all of the time! (at least on the disboards)

 

[tasha99]

Of course, the famed "gift trip"! Grandma sees her kids struggling and instead of buying a bag of groceries, she takes them to Disney. It happens all of the time! (at least on the disboards)

Maybe she does both. Or maybe she wants to take them on a treat, especially if she knows their food needs are covered. It doesn't seem very far fetched to me.

 

[DVCKev]

One should not talk about "other" people until they have walked in "their" shoes......A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.......

 

[luvsJack]

Because it's not true that's why! They get a credit card where they can buy whatever food they want. They make a CHOICE to buy processed food or use it for fast food (visit an inner city McDonalds on the first week of the month and you'll see what I mean) instead if purchasing fresh fruits and vegetables. And don't tell me it's cheaper to buy processed food - I make everything from scratch and it's much less expensive than buying boxed meals, but it takes effort to buy what's on sale and take the time to plan menus accordingly.

And it takes time to cook meals from scratch. Time I don't have now and I sure didn't have when I had two small kids, two jobs and no husband. Not everyone has the luxury of TIME.

Ya'll were just having a fit because food stamp recipients were buying better cuts of meat with their allotment. Now you want them to buy more expensive fresh foods? Please, make up your minds. That allotment is supposed to last them a month. So buying all fresh fruits and veggies today is great, but what good is that going to do them the last week of the month when the fresh fruits and veggies are either gone or ruined and they have used their allotment?

What if every student in the US wants to go on and get their graduate degree on the taxpayers' dollar? How can a government afford to pay to support everyone's education along with their food, shelter and insurance? Do you know that someone has to be working to pay for these programs??? What happens when those every dwindling group of people get tired of supporting everyone else then who pays so Susie can get her Masters or Bobby can get his PhD?

Of course I know that someone has to pay for these programs.

Not every student that goes back to get their grad degree is going to qualify for assistance

They were paying for her food, she didn't say anything about shelter and insurance.

That is a choice. There is always fresh food like vegetables and fruit to buy. It can be expensive but if some one chooses to buy licorice McDreck or cigarettes instead of groceries that is a free choice.
I live on grapes, almost a kilo per day but even in poor states like Mississippi or Alabama I had no problem of buying them.

Yep, you would be surprised at the fresh fruits and veggies we have down here in the poor states.

Uhmmm, you do realize that not everyone in MS and AL live in a "poor area" or receive food stamps. We have WalMart, Winn Dixie and other major grocery stores just like the rest of the nation. But in most of the poor sections of town, where the majority of food stamp/welfare recipients live that is not the case. They may have a corner grocery store but they don't have access to fresh fruits and vegetables all the time.

 

[Hannathy]

Of course, the famed "gift trip"! Grandma sees her kids struggling and instead of buying a bag of groceries, she takes them to Disney. It happens all of the time! (at least on the disboards)

Or buys them school clothes, or puts money away for school, or any of a gazillion things they could need more than a Disney trip.

Or maybe a financial advice course since she has been able to handle her finances a lot better than her offspring.

 

[luvsJack]

Just like I imagine you report every bit of income you make from your trash picking right?

pot meet kettle.

If you don't want judged on what you do with government provided money, here's an idea, quit taking it and then no one will judge you.

Just because someone needs assistance, does not give you or anyone else the right to judge their decisions. We all make bad decisions, but they are OURS to make.

 

[crashbb]

Of course, the famed "gift trip"! Grandma sees her kids struggling and instead of buying a bag of groceries, she takes them to Disney. It happens all of the time! (at least on the disboards)

Given that the PP says that she uses her food stamps to help support her mother, I'm going to go with it not being a gift trip from Grandma.

 

[Hannathy]

Just because someone needs assistance, does not give you or anyone else the right to judge their decisions. We all make bad decisions, but they are OURS to make.

convenient to only quote me and not her quote that I was responding to, nice

She was saying the cashier should be fired for not following the rules so I merely pointed out they weren't either.

And income is income and under the table is cheating so I defend what I said , if you want to pay for cheaters I hope you are sending in extra to the Government every week to cover them they will gladly take it.

Oh and I forgot yes they are ours to make as long as we own up to them and don't expect everyone else to pay for our poor choices!!! But when you want to live off my dime then yes I have the right to criticize and refuse to support them.

 

[bookmama]

So you are on food stamps but yet in a month you are going to WDW (as per your signature)? Do you see anything wrong with that pciture?

Nope i saved my money, my son and niece and nephews saved their money. I work everyday. So with the money i saved we deserve to go. Who are you to be so judgemental? I love my job. It doesn't pay much but i make a difference in children's lives; if foodstamps help me feed my child so i help special needs children then i'll take them til i don't need them. You sound petty and mean. But i won' t be as judgemental as you.

 

[kt_mom]

Nope i saved my money, my son and niece and nephews saved their money. I work everyday. So with the money i saved we deserve to go. Who are you to be so judgemental? I love my job. It doesn't pay much but i make a difference in children's lives; if foodstamps help me feed my child so i help special needs children then i'll take them til i don't need them. You sound petty and mean. But i won' t be as judgemental as you.

I think the issue that people have is that if you are able to save the money to take an expensive vacation, why aren't you able to save the money to buy food? You shouldn't get to take money out of my pocket to pay for food because you would rather save your money for vacation.

ETA: food stamps and other assistance are for needy families. I don't consider anyone that can afford to go to Disney as needy.

 

[ilovemk76]

Nope i saved my money, my son and niece and nephews saved their money. I work everyday. So with the money i saved we deserve to go. Who are you to be so judgemental? I love my job. It doesn't pay much but i make a difference in children's lives; if foodstamps help me feed my child so i help special needs children then i'll take them til i don't need them. You sound petty and mean. But i won' t be as judgemental as you.

You did not save your money. You took money from the government that you did not need so you could buy a luxury. No matter how you spin it, it is not you money.

 

[Hannathy]

I think the issue that people have is that if you are able to save the money to take an expensive vacation, why aren't you able to save the money to buy food? You shouldn't get to take money out of my pocket to pay for food because you would rather save your money for vacation.

ETA: food stamps and other assistance are for needy families. I don't consider anyone that can afford to go to Disney as needy.

We aren't going to Disney because a lot of what used to be expendable income has now had to be shifted to rising food and gas prices. So why should I have to do that and you don't? If you can save money you don't need money given to you for foodstamps. Way to work the system at our expense.

 

[bookmama]

I think the issue that people have is that if you are able to save the money to take an expensive vacation, why aren't you able to save the money to buy food? You shouldn't get to take money out of my pocket to pay for food because you would rather save your money for vacation.

ETA: food stamps and other assistance are for needy families. I don't consider anyone that can afford to go to Disney as needy.

Oh i do pay for food out of pocket at times. People shouldn't be so assuming, they are guessing at my situation. I don't abuse my foodstamps, i actually buy real food for the month. I can afford a disney vacation cause we saved for six years! Also i'm not taking money out of your pocket, it's out of mine. I've worked and paid taxes since iwas 14, so this is my money. I'm 36 btw.

 

[DanW]

Why is everyone saying that lack of access to fresh foods is a common thing in the inner cities? Or that it matters? It probably is not true.

One study from the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California found that poor neighborhoods had nearly twice the amount of convenient stores and fast food restaurants as wealthier areas. While that finding may not come as a surprise, the study also found that the poor neighborhoods also had access to more large supermarkets and chain grocery stores per square mile.
"It is always easy to advocate for more grocery stores,” Kelly D. Brownell, director of Yale University’s Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity, who was not involved in the studies, told the Times. "But if you are looking for what you hope will change obesity, healthy food access is probably just wishful thinking."

In a separate study for the RAND corporation, Dr. Roland Sturm found that children’s proximity to food had no bearing on their health, despite what food desert activists had previously suggested. In his research, students’ weight and the types of food they ate were unaffected by the supermarkets or restaurants around them.

 

[luvsJack]

convenient to only quote me and not her quote that I was responding to, nice

She was saying the cashier should be fired for not following the rules so I merely pointed out they weren't either.

And income is income and under the table is cheating so I defend what I said , if you want to pay for cheaters I hope you are sending in extra to the Government every week to cover them they will gladly take it.

Oh and I forgot yes they are ours to make as long as we own up to them and don't expect everyone else to pay for our poor choices!!! But when you want to live off my dime then yes I have the right to criticize and refuse to support them.

Why should I have quoted her? I said the same thing about the cashier, she had no business discussing one customer's method of payment and certainly not the balance on the customer's EBT card.

You have no clue whether the PP declares that money or not, besides, my word, she is digging through the garbage for things to sell!! Since you don't know if she is declaring the money or if its even enough TO declare, you can't say with certainity that she is following the "rules". If the cashier did what the OP said she did, then we KNOW that she was in the wrong. You can refuse all you want to, your tax bill isn't going to change.

The only poor choice she may be making is going on vacation with the money that she does have. But she is using her EIC money and some she has saved. Nothing that she says she is using for Disney would change the fact that she qualifies for food stamps. Should she go to Disney? I can't answer that. I wouldn't if it was me, because I know that there are other things I would need the money for. But, if her housing is paid for, she has food in the house and her bills are paid and her kids are clothed and that is what she wants to do with every extra dime; then yes, it is HER choice.

 

[wvjules]

Oh i do pay for food out of pocket at times. People shouldn't be so assuming, they are guessing at my situation. I don't abuse my foodstamps, i actually buy real food for the month. I can afford a disney vacation cause we saved for six years! Also i'm not taking money out of your pocket, it's out of mine. I've worked and paid taxes since iwas 14, so this is my money. I'm 36 btw.

But if you didn't get food stamps you wouldn't have that "EXTRA" money. It is only extra because you don't have to spend it on food.

Nope i saved my money, my son and niece and nephews saved their money. I work everyday. So with the money i saved we deserve to go. Who are you to be so judgemental? I love my job. It doesn't pay much but i make a difference in children's lives; if foodstamps help me feed my child so i help special needs children then i'll take them til i don't need them. You sound petty and mean. But i won' t be as judgemental as you.

Oh, and for the record no one DESERVES to go to Disney. And just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them petty and mean.

 

[ZehnJahren]

Oh i do pay for food out of pocket at times. People shouldn't be so assuming, they are guessing at my situation. I don't abuse my foodstamps, i actually buy real food for the month. I can afford a disney vacation cause we saved for six years! Also i'm not taking money out of your pocket, it's out of mine. I've worked and paid taxes since iwas 14, so this is my money. I'm 36 btw.

I simply cannot believe this.

You cannot afford a Disney vacation. You can't even buy your own food, how on earth can you justify going to Disney??

I don't care if you saved for it for 100 years - if you must take government assistance in order to even eat, then you do not have a single dime for Disney. Not one single dime. You have already eaten up all the money you "paid in" - since that money was not intended for YOU but for everyone, in one big pot.

It's not your money. It's the government's money. In perspective, you pay taxes - and that's your money, so should you just stop paying taxes? Because that's your money and you need it?

I had a period of time (longer than six years) in which I was unable to afford Disney. Sadly, I didn't go - and I really REALLY wanted to. Now I can afford it, and now I go. But if I had to choose between my dinner and Disney, unfortunately I'd decide that PAYING FOR MY FOOD ALL THE TIME was more important.

There are a THOUSAND things to do with your family that are very very inexpensive. Even camping is cheap and fun, or a picnic in the park with everyone. But Disney? Wow.

Unbelievable.

 

[Colleen27]

Or buys them school clothes, or puts money away for school, or any of a gazillion things they could need more than a Disney trip.

Or maybe a financial advice course since she has been able to handle her finances a lot better than her offspring.

Grandparents tend to want to spoil their grandkids with gifts that bring joy. That doesn't change just because the family is poor. Grandma might also be helping with all of those other things, or she might believe that basic needs are up to the parents to figure out and just gives the extras, but she is the gift giver and it is up to her what, if anything, she wants to provide for her grandchildren.

 

[SaraJayne]

so are you saying that kids whose parents work at low paying jobs and receive food stamps to survive, should not be able to experience disney??????

Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying.

 

[kt_mom]

Oh i do pay for food out of pocket at times. People shouldn't be so assuming, they are guessing at my situation. I don't abuse my foodstamps, i actually buy real food for the month. I can afford a disney vacation cause we saved for six years! Also i'm not taking money out of your pocket, it's out of mine. I've worked and paid taxes since iwas 14, so this is my money. I'm 36 btw.

If you have money to save for Disney then you have money to buy your own groceries.

Paying in doesn't count if you get it all and more back at tax time. I don't know your finances, but I would bet that if you qualify for food stamps that you also get back what you pay in if not more than you pay in.