Flying to WDW - did you cancell your trip -or decide to drive ?

pooh2001

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We are supposed to fly this Nov to WDW.
DH talks about driving.
On the news last night I heard about terorrists getting/tried to get
drivers licenses for hazardous waste.
That could lead to deaths on major road ways.

I do not want to cancel our vacation.
We would be flying out of LGA (NY airport)
Thanks :)
 
We are visiting WDW the first week of December and we are absolutely still flying. I think the thought of driving might have popped in our mind but was quickly dismissed. 11 hours in a suburban with 2 fighting DDs is just not worth it. Maybe we should be but we are not stressing over the safety factor in flying. Have a great time whatever you decide!!

roxanne
 
I was supposed to fly to California - both my husband and I were uneasy so we're driving to Virginia and taking the Autotrain to Florida instead.
 
Flying in 10 days! My MIL and husband are both driving down a few days before my son & I fly down. My son would rate take his chances on the plane than sit in a back seat for 25 hours. My husband said either he drives down or I do but we wouldnt last in a car for that long together. If anyone has to be up in that plane with my son Id rather it be me. I would be a basket case with my son flying without me. I wouldnt want to be left alive without him.
 

We are flying to Tampa in 15 days, and Flying to Orlando this December. Our family will not be hiding under a rock because of what has happened or speculation about what could happen - doing that is a sure sign that the terrorists have won. Air planes are still the safest way to travel and will continue to get safer.
 
This is exactly the type of paranoia they were hoping to achieve. You could just as easily get hit by a van of nursery school kids on a field trip.

Flying will be just as safe as driving, and if it's your time it's your time. If anything, flying will be safer than ever.

You could just as easily stop to eat at a Waffle House in GA and end up with lethal food poisoning.

Don't let the terrorists win!

Anne
 
Hi,
I flew on the 14th and 21st.
Thought of driving from CT to FL scared me more than getting on the plane. :)
 
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I am attaching for everyone to read a very helpful article I read in Monday's Philadelphia Inquirer. Car accidents in 1999 killed 42,000 people, whereas 7,000 or so were killed by terrorists on that horrible day. I was really afraid to fly, but this article really helped me get some perspective. Hope someone else benefits by it.

Rationality not always a factor in our fears

By Stacey Burling
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Why is it that a shark attack or two drives people out of the ocean, but you don't see them screaming at the sight of a bacon double cheeseburger and supersized fries?

Fearing West Nile virus or Lyme disease, we'll fret over a bug bite, but give little thought to flu season, which kills tens of thousands more people.

An airplane ride - especially now - feels more dangerous than the same trip in a car, even though statistics show it's not.

Fear is not entirely rational.

And you wouldn't necessarily want it to be.

When our long-lost ancestors crossed the path of a saber-toothed tiger, it wasn't in their best interest to waste time thinking.

"Fear helps us assess the world, and react, and keep ourselves safe," said Paul Slovic, a University of Oregon psychologist and expert on perception of risk.

Fear has been on many Americans' minds since Sept. 11, when people's perception of their safety was blown to bits. Suddenly, almost everyone feels at least a pang of nervousness at the thought of boarding a plane. We startle at loud noises, watch carefully as planes fly over our houses, eye strangers suspiciously, feel vaguely uncomfortable in crowds or big office buildings.

Are we, in fact, in any more danger now than we were on Sept. 10, when most of us weren't giving Osama bin Laden a thought?

Probably not. Maybe even less. But who knows?

That's why terrorism works. It's scary for some of the same reasons that shark attacks evoke a stronger reaction than obesity, or smoking, or cars. Combine unpredictability with gruesomeness. Add lack of control, stealth, insufficient information, and victims that everyone can identify with, and you've got the recipe for fear.

"The threat of random annihilation is terrifying," said Jeff Greenberg, a psychologist at the University of Arizona who is a proponent of "terror management theory."

Greenberg said he believes people create cultures as a way of living with fear, of dealing with the conflict between our animal instinct to survive and the uniquely human awareness that we all have a 100 percent chance of dying of something. Society makes us feel safe.

Because of that, the terrorist onslaught two weeks ago - an attack not only on people's personal safety but on American culture - was especially frightening.

As Linda Welsh, a psychologist at the Anxiety and Agoraphobia Treatment Center in Bala Cynwyd, puts it, "Most of us live in denial, and this has just taken away all of our defenses."

If you go by numbers, even with four passenger planes going down in a day, far fewer people die flying than driving. In 1999, for example, car accidents killed 42,000 people - more than 20 times the number killed in air and water accidents combined. Horrible as last week's death toll was, stomach ulcers and nutritional deficiencies each kill close to 5,000 people a year, and most of us don't live in dread of them.

But no one goes just by the numbers. Fear has a rational component - and also a quicker, emotional, intuitive component. It is influenced by vivid images (think how powerful the mushroom cloud is 60 years after we dropped the atomic bomb), experiences, your ability to imagine a shark's teeth clamping onto your thigh, perceived changes in the expected pattern.

People tend to react more strongly to new, memorable dangers.

We've all developed rationales for dealing with the background risks of life: a drunk driver on our commute, a fall down the stairs, a cancer diagnosis. When something unusual happens - Ebola, E. coli, killer bees, defective tires - it's more likely to get our attention.

"We often appraise risk inaccurately," said Frank Farley, a psychologist at Temple University who has studied people's willingness to take risks. "You are more at risk climbing a ladder at home than you are in an airplane. One of the problems is, we overvalue unusual events."

Of course, news media attention has something to do with that. Traffic accidents don't make the news like shark attacks. We might fear cars more if newspapers had big headlines like "Man Killed In Idaho On Highway," said Jerilyn Ross, a clinical social worker who directs the Ross Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders in Washington.

Still, facts don't guarantee rationality.

Martin Franklin, clinical director of the University of Pennsylvania's Center for the Treatment and Study of Anxiety, said he thinks rationality often breaks down when it comes to weird, scary things.

Before Sept. 11, a huge terrorist attack was "an extremely unlikely event," Franklin said. "It remains so, and yet there's still the possibility that it could happen. The possible becomes equated with the probable when you're afraid."

Logic can override fears, psychologists said. But people often lack the information they need to put risks in perspective, Jonathan Baron, a Penn psychology professor, said.

Remember the Alar apple scare? Baron said he thinks people would have been calmer if they had known the numbers: The Alar in a bushel of apples had the cancer-causing power of one cigarette.

Speaking of cigarettes, why aren't they terrifying? All smoking-related illnesses combined kill 400,000 Americans a year, according to the American Cancer Society.

The answer is that cigarettes kill slowly, far in the future. And smoking is a choice. People are much more comfortable with risks they choose to take than with risks that are thrust upon them, psychologists said. This is a big reason why many people are more comfortable driving their cars than riding in an airplane.

"People's perceptions of dangers are often much more based on their perception of control rather than their perception of the absolute dangers," said David Carbonell, director of the Anxiety Treatment Center in Chicago.

Unpredictability is another thing that ups the fear ante for most people.

"Uncertainty is probably . . . the number one source of human fear," Temple's Farley said.

That's one of the reasons that two shark deaths spaced relatively close together - or one massive terrorist attack - make us so nervous. Our brains are alert to things that might portend a change in the rules, Slovic, the expert on risk perception, said. Suddenly we're afraid because we're no longer sure we can predict risk.

In a case like this terrorist attack, the math isn't much help.

"It's taken our safety blanket away," said Ross, the anxiety specialist in Washington. "You can't do your normal rationalizing."

So what can you do?

Farley said he thinks it's important for people in a country founded by bold risk-takers not to let terrorists get the better of them. "We do not want to let fearfulness creep into our society," he said.

Psychologists said people can deal with their fears by focusing on the improvements in national security, talking about their fears, exercising, or spending time with people in their communities.

"It's what you tell yourself that scares you," Welsh said.
 
My family is flying out on Saturday. No change in our plans :) We can't wait!
 
I bought airline tickets on Monday to fly to WDW in November. I do not want to live in fear of what might happen. I am a little apprehensive about flying, but my husband and I discussed the only way we could do WDW in 5 days was fly. If we did not fly we had a 20 hour drive each way and that would not leave much time in the parks. I look forward to enjoying the Disney magic!!!:)
 
Our trip is November 29 and we never ever thought of changing a thing. Part of our trip is WDW and the other part is the cruise.

I will not live in fear and I will live my life to the fullest. I can't let the evil monsters win.

We're leaving out of Logan and I'm curious to see the changes. I'm making sure I leave plenty of time!

I sure hope they don't change our flights or by that much. This situation with the airline industry is so very sad. 130,000 jobs lost in total!

God Bless!
 
We were in DW from 9/9 to 9/22.. Had flown down from NY and were scheduled to fly back on the 22nd. My son-in-law was afraid of flying even before the attacks so he certainly wasn't going to get on a plane to come back home after the terrorist attacks. My daughter and I might have flown home were it not for the fact that we had a 3 yr. old with us and there continued to be problems at the Orlando airport as long as a week and a half after the attacks. I know that eventually I will fly again but until things are a little more settled I would prefer not to be on a plane. Although the airports are doing their best to increase their levels of security it's still rather hit or miss now - one hand not knowing what the other hand is doing. Once our retaliation begins there's no way of knowing what the terrorists that are at large here in the United States will do.. Maybe it won't be airplanes again - maybe it will be trains - bombs hidden in buildings - who knows? If I had the option of changing my vacation plans I would - at least until we see what is going to happen in the next few months.. If not, then I would watch the news, listen carefully to what is being reported, and then base my decision on what my gut feelings told me to do.. I don't think you can ever go wrong if you follow your own instincts.. Whatever you decide, let it be YOUR decision and not a decision that is swayed by what others are saying you should or shouldn't do.. If you do decide to drive though, TAKE YOUR TIME!! Don't wear yourselves out like we did. Two 12-hour days on the road is far too grueling.. I think three 8-hour days would be much better.. Good luck and God bless..
 
did not change our plans to fly out on 10-27 and back home 11-3...I will not be trapped in my house afraid of what "might" happen. I also will not give in by driving; the highways scare me more than the planes!
 
We were suppose to fly to Orlando on United on Oct. 12th with my parents are our two children (4 & 5). We have decided to drive. I think for those of you who keep suggesting for everyone to fly need to take some other things into consideration as we have. Our reasons are United has cut personnel and flights. They don't have to tell us in advance that our flights have been cancelled. At this point, I don't think it's a matter of if but when we go to war. If something was to happen while we're away for 11 days I want to be able to get home without having to worry about the FAA grounding the airlines, not being able to take our rental car out of the state, more cancelled flights etc.... I would rather be in control. The thought of being stuck at an airport with 2 little ones isn't a pleasant one. In addition, my 5 year old dd is very afraid of flying right now. I don't want her first experience on an airplane to be a bad one.

On another note, please don't tell people how to feel. I have read on several threads of posters telling others posters "Don't be afraid, Don't be scared" etc.... We all are entitled
to our feelings. Driving to WDW isn't giving in - Everyone's situation is different and we all need to do what's best for our families.
 
Again, like I said in a previous post, I don't see anywhere anyone "telling" anyone how they should feel or react.

I do see people giving their answers to the post and giving their opinion and why. Also, maybe some advice or encouraging words, that's all.

You want to be fearful and cancel, fine go ahead, but don't be bothered by those of us who may still be a little scared but are still going ahead with our plans.

For me, it's the least I can do for our country and "I" will not live in fear.

Could you please post a quote of someone telling someone how they should feel or live their life? Maybe I'm missing something...
 
Originally after the horriffic attack on our country I thought we wouldn't fly. I looked into Amtrack, and renting a car. Then I said to myself NO we are NOT going to change our plans. We are flying down to WDW to enjoy our Christmas Holidays and I'm not going to change my life and what precious little time we all have in it.

We are a family that totally as of 10/17/99 does not take life or family for granted any longer after nearly loosing my husband, best friend, love of my life and the father to my daughter in a near fatal accident which left him burned and an amputee. Yes, our life is different than before but we Thank God we still have a life together.

I'm not saying I won't be nervous but, we will all be together and that's the most important part of life - Family.

Laura
 
What anyone should or shouldn't do at this time is a very personal decision and I find it terribly upsetting that people make comments like, "I won't be trapped in my own home.." - "I won't live in fear of what might happen.." - "I won't let the terrorists win by not flying..", etc. The implication is that those who choose a more cautious approach to the past, present, and future events are letting the terrorists "win".. Well as far as I can see they ALREADY won on 9/11 when they killed thousands of innocent people by hijacking airplanes that supposedly were already secure. Our beautiful country was caught off guard and the end result was devastating.. So - as far as I'm concerned if some people choose to be a little more cautious and a little more aware of what's happening around them than they were prior to that awful day they're certainly entitled to be. Let's all just respect each persons personal choices and leave it at that..
 
beattyfamily - There are several threads out there where people have stated Don't be scared,
Don't let the terrosists win etc... However, I didn't want to point the finger at anyone so I made a general request to be repectful of other people's feelings. But I will quote your last one post since it's a perfect example.
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You want to be fearful and cancel, fine go ahead, but don't be bothered by those of us who may still be a little scared but are still going ahead with our plans.

For me, it's the least I can do for our country and "I" will not live in fear.
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I NEVER said that I was bothered by your plans. You want to fly - go right ahead - KUDOS to you!!!!

I think you should reread my post - I'm NOT cancelling my vacation and I am not living in fear!!! We decided to drive instead of fly. I stated the reasons why we decided to drive since that was the thread was about. But even if we did decide to cancel our vacation as other have done, that does not give you the right to judge those people.
 
This is my last post on the subject because it's pointless.

I just wanted to reply to your last post which was direct directly to me.

Remember, it's all MHO and I'm NOT telling you or anyone how to feel or what to do, as I've stated before.

I didn't see anyone telling you or anyone else how to feel or what to do. Sorry, but that's how I see it. So I replied to your post.

It's seems to me, since I didn't see any specific posting doing what you stated, I came to the conclusion that you might be bothered by the posts saying that we're still flying and that "we" (not you) won't live in fear. If that's not true and not the case then, fine, I'm sorry.

I think you are being very defensive with this remark though:

But even if we did decide to cancel our vacation as other have done, that does not give you the right to judge those people.

Could you PLEASE tell me how I was judging other people who chose to cancel their flying plans?

I answered the post with my plans and with my opinion as to why I made my decision. I didn't say a word about you or anyone else who has decided to cancel their flying plans, did I? As a matter of fact, I did say "to each his own" and how I don't blame all those who canceled that terrible week and the week after, I probably would have too.

For the record, I have a 5 and 2 year old and I don't think they'd understand if we canceled now. Although my 5 year old was with me when we saw the second plan hit, she hasn't shown any fear of flying, thank God. I don't want to have to say to her, we're not going because we're afraid to fly. I'm afraid of the effects that would have on her.

Also, a lot can happen between now and my trip at the end of November. If we are in a full fledged war by then, then maybe I would also change my plans.

Again, to each his own, but I will NOT live in fear and I will live my life to the fullest and I will NOT let the monsters win and I think this is just one small thing I can do for my country and the airline industry where as many as 130,000 jobs have been lost. I pray things get back to some kind of normal with all my heart.

This is my opinion and this is why I'm still going to fly and this is NOT a judgement on anyone who choses the opposite decsision of my family.

Have a great Disney Day!
 














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