Florida HOA help!

BigAlsGal

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We’re in the process of attempting to relocate to Florida. I’ve been skimming through MLS listings for months trying to get an idea of what’s out there. It seems everything is in a stinking HOA! I’ve never lived in one and the stories I hear from friends who do live in them make me want to tear my eyes out. The petty ridiculous bickering and nit picking between neighbors about every little detail would drive me insane. Please tell me what you can about most Florida HOA’s. I’m terrified of the possibility of becoming entangled in some HOA squabble. Are they as bad as they seem?
 
We’re in the process of attempting to relocate to Florida. I’ve been skimming through MLS listings for months trying to get an idea of what’s out there. It seems everything is in a stinking HOA! I’ve never lived in one and the stories I hear from friends who do live in them make me want to tear my eyes out. The petty ridiculous bickering and nit picking between neighbors about every little detail would drive me insane. Please tell me what you can about most Florida HOA’s. I’m terrified of the possibility of becoming entangled in some HOA squabble. Are they as bad as they seem?
I don’t know anything about FL, but most decent homes in my area have one b/c there is too much risk here without one. There are set rules about property upkeep & changes, but I think they’re pretty reasonable. We don’t have any bickering like you talk about. I don’t know if its different in FL though.
 
I think it’s entirely dependent on the subdivision. For better or for worse, most homes in FL are in an HOA (although it’s definitely possible to find ones that aren’t!), so it is something that many have learned to live with. From my limited and totally anecdotal knowledge, I’ve noticed that older (80’s/90’s and older) neighborhoods tend to have more relaxed HOAs than new neighborhoods. Whe my dad and his wife moved into a brand new subdivision about 10 years ago they had some struggles with the HOA and neighbors, but nothing that was truly awful.
 
We've lived in 3 Florida locations with HOAs. IMO, you should stay away from condos, if you live on a budget. They can be a money pit. It appears to be a good buy in price, but the HOA fees go up on a fairly frequent basis. When there are major problems with any of the buildings, everyone usually gets a rate increase.

When looking for a home, ask them to provide the rules & regulations & how often the fees tend to go up. Avoid HOAs that dictate what you do to your home inside & out. Some HOAs require you to pre-approve appliances & paint colors on the inside. I would never buy a home in one of those subdivisions. Pre-approved paint colors on the outside are fairly normal. Older subdivisions are usually easier to deal with.

Our previous HOA paid helicopters to fly over homes to determine who needed a new roof. If you didn't replace the roof, you are fined. We also had retirees with way too much time on their hands walk by with a clipboard looking for violations on the outside. Anything they didn't approve of had to be corrected within a month or you were charged a daily fine. Our new HOA is much easier to work with.

When looking at homes, ask the neighbors about the HOA. Most of them will be honest with you. Look for owners in your same demographic (age, kids, etc.). They can probably give you better info for your situation. Don't buy into a neighborhood, without knowing exactly what to expect from the HOA & how often the rates can increase.

Not that you asked, but we've moved several times. We normally visit the area in advance & stay in a hotel for at least a long weekend. Everywhere we go, hotel, restaurants, stores, etc., we ask people what neighborhood in the city or nearby suburbs they would prefer to live in. It may feel awkward at first, but everyone has been willing to talk to us about it. That usually gives us a general area to look in. We rent in that area for 6 months to a year & tour all the nearby neighborhoods. That helps us to know where we'd be willing to buy a home. I personally would never buy a home without knowing the area well, but many people do. It comes down to what you're comfortable with.
 

The HOA experience doesn't have to be bad, but it can really vary quite widely. When we were looking for homes down here the range was from an HOA that was optional and cost $50/year all the way to a new subdivision where the HOA was $1200 per year. We ended up in a subdivision built in the 80s, the HOA is just under $400 a year and the price hasn't changed in 8 years from what I can tell.

I don't mind the HOA, when we first moved in we would get letters telling us we were doing things wrong (we weren't smart enough to get a copy of the HOA rules when we moved in) but it was things that were fine once we knew the rule so we just moved on. It does seem like the number of letters that go out yelling at people completely depend on who is president that year. However there are a few people in the neighborhood that are getting fines and fighting with the HOA so their experience is really different than mine. But when they were told to clean their roof or fix whatever, they didn't do it.

I wouldn't be afraid to move to another place with an HOA, especially since houses that are in desirable areas that aren't in them are very hard to find down here. But I would definitely ask more questions next time and get a copy of their rules/policies.
 
I can't tell you about Florida HOAs, but I live in an area of Virginia where most neighborhoods are under HOAs. I am in a smaller neighborhood of 50 homes and, all I can say, is thank goo for my HOA. Without it, we would have broken down cars up on blocks, people with their siding hanging down, overgrown yards, and well, I could go on. This is not as much of a factor in homes that are just built--it certainly wasn't an issue when we moved in. But give it 20 years when maintenance is key, and you'll be glad you have one. Unless you are one of those folks that just doesn't like to maintain your home and you want to paint your house some bizarre color that would never be on a home.

Now, maybe in an area such as Florida where there is a lot more "retired" population, the HOAs can get overzealous. Where we live, everyone works and HOAs are run by neighborhood volunteers who don't have a lot of time. I guess if someone takes the HOA job too seriously, and I've heard of this, they can be your worst nightmare if you break a rule.

My parents live in a very large neighborhood with an active HOA. They don't get hassled much but the HOA is more more aggressive when it comes to maintenance violations than mine is.
 
Another one who doesn't live in Florida but lives in an HOA and has for over 20 years.

We really haven't had any petty bickering that I know of. My dh has been on the board twice and he's had to deal with some stuff but it's generally kept among the board.

I don't see the rule as anything unreasonable so maybe that's why I don't have a problem.

Maybe your friends like their holiday decorations up year round or broken down cars in their drive way.
 
Another one who doesn't live in Florida but lives in an HOA and has for over 20 years.

We really haven't had any petty bickering that I know of. My dh has been on the board twice and he's had to deal with some stuff but it's generally kept among the board.

I don't see the rule as anything unreasonable so maybe that's why I don't have a problem.

Maybe your friends like their holiday decorations up year round or broken down cars in their drive way.

I think the real problem is that people don't want to maintain their homes. I think everyone knows, maintaining your home is EXPENSIVE. Some of the homes in my neighborhood have stained cedar wood siding. It is costly to get it repaired and stained every 10 years. So people just don't do it. We have some homeowners now with holes in their wood and boards falling off. It really does detract from the nice look of the neighborhood and if you are trying to sell your home and people drive in and see it...forget about a good sale. We have people whose wood fences have fallen down in sections and are just laying there. I could go on. But maintenance seems to be the big problem in our neighborhood and, as a homeowner who maintains their home, it bugs me that some of my neighbors are letting their homes fall into shambles.

About 2 miles down the road we have some neighborhoods that were built in the 1960s. No HOA. My word, it is quite entertaining to take a drive through that place.
 
The HOA experience doesn't have to be bad, but it can really vary quite widely. When we were looking for homes down here the range was from an HOA that was optional and cost $50/year all the way to a new subdivision where the HOA was $1200 per year. We ended up in a subdivision built in the 80s, the HOA is just under $400 a year and the price hasn't changed in 8 years from what I can tell.

I don't mind the HOA, when we first moved in we would get letters telling us we were doing things wrong (we weren't smart enough to get a copy of the HOA rules when we moved in) but it was things that were fine once we knew the rule so we just moved on. It does seem like the number of letters that go out yelling at people completely depend on who is president that year. However there are a few people in the neighborhood that are getting fines and fighting with the HOA so their experience is really different than mine. But when they were told to clean their roof or fix whatever, they didn't do it.

I wouldn't be afraid to move to another place with an HOA, especially since houses that are in desirable areas that aren't in them are very hard to find down here. But I would definitely ask more questions next time and get a copy of their rules/policies.
This in a nutshell.
Not many HOAs within NYC but we have another real estate product called cooperatives that function under similar rules. You have to do your due diligence.
 
We had a condo in Metrowest, gated community. Fees were $340 a month which seemed high until we looked at what they included. Ours were water, sewer (which cost over $100 a month here), garbage (another $30 a month), a community pool and fitness facility, exterior insurance and maintenance, paint and roof, and suddenly, it didn't seem like too much money. They didn't go up drastically, and you can always attend the meeting and speak up. Most HOA's are there to protect people's investments.
 
Every HOA is different. Some are good, some are bad. The best advice is to ask for the covenants if it's a house you're seriously considering (before you put down an offer). What's in the covenants is more important (IMO) than what neighbors say. If the covenants say "you must only use these colors on the outside of your house" but the neighbors say they don't enforce it, doesn't mean a future HOA board won't enforce it.
 
We've never lived in a house with an HOA. Like others, I've heard horror stories about overzealous boards and over-the-top rules. OTOH, I find it pretty funny to hear people say how horrible it is NOT to have an HOA, as if every non-HOA neighborhood is filled with year-round Christmas lights, cars up on blocks, and waist-high weeds. Um, no.

Our current neighborhood is ~50 years old, built around a golf course and probably, if it were built today, would be an HOA community. But, it's not. We don't need one--the neighbors are lovely people who take pride in their homes. Sometimes I feel like we're the oddballs--everyone else on our block has lived here 30+ years, we're the only ones with 4 kids, and we bought our house, knowing it needed some work. From the street, though, our place looks fine (driveway DOES need repair, but it's not horrible). No cars on blocks. Parking on the street is rare, typically for a specific event. Holiday decorations are tasteful and subtle (well, except for our house--we're not obnoxious, but we do like Christmas lights).

My point is, HOAs don't have to be evil. OTOH, not having them doesn't mean you're living in a trashy neighborhood. It's like anything else--you have to do your due diligence. It's tough when you move--we moved 2.5 years ago, I did a TON of research. We landed well, no regrets, but a lot of it was luck, and there was plenty that I wished I known then--mostly related to schools.
 
I think the real problem is that people don't want to maintain their homes.

I live in an older neighborhood that's not under an HOA and this is a big problem. I keep my home looking nice while other homes are falling apart, have multiple vehicles parked all over the grass and on the street (many of them don't run). It makes the whole place look junky.
 
We’re in the process of attempting to relocate to Florida. I’ve been skimming through MLS listings for months trying to get an idea of what’s out there. It seems everything is in a stinking HOA! I’ve never lived in one and the stories I hear from friends who do live in them make me want to tear my eyes out. The petty ridiculous bickering and nit picking between neighbors about every little detail would drive me insane. Please tell me what you can about most Florida HOA’s. I’m terrified of the possibility of becoming entangled in some HOA squabble. Are they as bad as they seem?
People who have a positive outcome rarely take the time to tell the world.

It is those with issues that moan and complain and let the world know.

The vast majority of people have no issue with the HOA. The vast majority who have an issue with the HOA are breaking a rule they feel is unjust but breaking a rule none the less.

I have lived in an HOA community for the past 13 years. I have received two letters of non compliance. In both cases I was breaking a rule and corrected the mistake.

The biggest complaints about our HOA are from those who want to paint their homes currently popular bold colors that do not fit into the architectural style of the neighborhood. To listen to them complain their right to life is being taken away by the HOA.

The next biggest complaints come from those who feel that the dues are too high or being spent poorly. Yet those same people won’t step up and volunteer to be on the board or a committee. Instead they stand on the sidelines trying to stir up resentment.

I have no problem with living in a community with an HOA.
 
Not in FL, but we owned homes in two HOA communities and they were both perfectly reasonable. Our covenants never covered the inside of the homes, just the outside, and general upkeep of your property. In TX the two things that they were pretty crazy about was keeping the trees on the park strip trimmed so that they didn't overhang the road, and getting approval before building any structure (such as playground) in the back yard if it would be able to be seen over the fence. Even with those things they were very responsive when you sent in drawings for the outdoor structures, and if you got a violations notice about your trees they gave you plenty of time to rectify the situation. Both times we have purchased into HOA communities there was an HOA contingency on the purchase, where we were given a set amount of time to read and sign the covenants before the sale proceeded, so we were well informed before purchasing the house regarding our end of the deal in living in an HOA community. Our dues in both were also very reasonable for what the community provided, and we were comfortable with the dues increase caps and formulas as set out in the covenants for the two we purchased into, but some had terms regarding dues increases that we were not comfortable with, and therefore avoided those communities.
 
We’re in the process of attempting to relocate to Florida. I’ve been skimming through MLS listings for months trying to get an idea of what’s out there. It seems everything is in a stinking HOA! I’ve never lived in one and the stories I hear from friends who do live in them make me want to tear my eyes out. The petty ridiculous bickering and nit picking between neighbors about every little detail would drive me insane. Please tell me what you can about most Florida HOA’s. I’m terrified of the possibility of becoming entangled in some HOA squabble. Are they as bad as they seem?

I live in a HOA in Florida. Our HOA is too relaxed and parts of some neighborhoods are being referred to as the Ghetto streets. Those streets have mostly renters who park 6 cars when they only have room for 2 so they are parking on the front lawn! Ours you can not park on the street. HOA says they can't enforce not parking on the lawn. Big debate right now is some residence wants to put solar panels in their FRONT YARD (these are small lots) arguing the direction their homes face the front yard (not back yard and not on the roof) is the best place.

There are some surrounding neighborhoods that have a rule that you cannot park in your driveway. Cars must be parked in the garage. Of course a guest can park in the drive. Florida garages are TINY. If you have a two car garage, you would be lucky to fit two cars in and be able to open your car doors. For this reason, do not get anything other than a three car garage. Two and a half at the smallest. Our. HOA doesn't allow large storage sheds which means lawn mowers and tools go into the garage for most of us. Many just pay a lawn service so they don't have lawn equipment. Grass pretty much needs to be cut weekly in the summer. In the winter, you might get by cutting grass every two week.

I like the HOA for the most part. My friend lives in a non-hoa and her streets have so many pot holes now. Her neighbor is running a puppy-mill. ugh.

The thing with Condos (as someone mentioned) is unexpected fees. Most can charge residents loss assessment fees. Some people have to take out a 2nd mortgage to pay them. I have heard some can charge up to $51,000 for loss assessment fees. Some homeowners policy include endorsements to help with these fees. Loss assessment fees come from damage to community property by a covered peril (like lightning striking a clubhouse and burning it down).
 
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There is no such thing as a good HOA. They're all bad, it's just varying degrees of evil. I'm stuck in one now and counting the days until we can leave. Hate them, don't want to deal with them and wish they'd be disbanded or outlawed or whatever.

Yes, I know, I chose to live here. That's simply because it's the best thing for my children, being in a subdivision with other kids around. But I despise having to get "permission" to paint my house the color we want, or have to put our trash cans in just the right place or blah, blah, blah. Ugh, they're evil...all of them.
 
There is no such thing as a good HOA. They're all bad, it's just varying degrees of evil. I'm stuck in one now and counting the days until we can leave. Hate them, don't want to deal with them and wish they'd be disbanded or outlawed or whatever.

Yes, I know, I chose to live here. That's simply because it's the best thing for my children, being in a subdivision with other kids around. But I despise having to get "permission" to paint my house the color we want, or have to put our trash cans in just the right place or blah, blah, blah. Ugh, they're evil...all of them.

Just curious as to why you hate yours. Mine has been so reasonable for 20-plus years that I cannot imagine feeling like you do.
 
There is no such thing as a good HOA. They're all bad, it's just varying degrees of evil. I'm stuck in one now and counting the days until we can leave. Hate them, don't want to deal with them and wish they'd be disbanded or outlawed or whatever.

Yes, I know, I chose to live here. That's simply because it's the best thing for my children, being in a subdivision with other kids around. But I despise having to get "permission" to paint my house the color we want, or have to put our trash cans in just the right place or blah, blah, blah. Ugh, they're evil...all of them.

I have lived in a HOA community for 13 years. It is not bad at all. I feel mine is to relaxed and wish they were stricter. To each their own.

I lived on military bases until age 14, then I joined the military as an adult (for the next 20 years of my life. LOL). So perhaps I am more accustomed to having "rules" in place that residents should follow.
 


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