First night with my K110D!

Forevryoung

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You guys are going to laugh at me-

My parents bought me a K110D for an early birthday present because I saw it on sale with a rebate and I've wanted it for awhile now (and I'm spoiled :rolleyes1 ) I had it shipped to their house because I was afraid it wouldn't get to me before I left for NY. Of course it's been sitting in my parent's house for a week and a half while I finish up final projects and whatnot.

So I get my parents together and I open the camera, I'm more than excited :banana: and then I realize that I don't have a SD card :rotfl: . I knew I had to go to the store tomorrow to get one but I thought it might come with a very small one to start me off with. Of course my Dad's camera only takes some weird XD card. So I attached the lens, put the batteries in, turn it on and off, and attached the strap. I can't shoot a picture till I run to staples tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :idea: :rolleyes:
 
Can you say 24 Hour Wal-Mart?!!! :rotfl:

Congrats on your new camera. :thumbsup2
 
Congrats and welcome to both the DSLR and Pentax families! If you plan on shooting RAW, make sure you get a large enough card b/c the files will be around 11MB each.

Kevin
 
You also might want to consider buying more memory online. Buy.com usually has good deals on SD cards (a lot cheaper than Walmart).

You'll love your new camera. I got the k100d a few months ago and I LOVE it!
 

Congrats! Fortunately, I was moving from another camera that took SD cards when I got my Pentax, so I was all set, albeit with a couple "small" 512m cards.

I'd keep your eyes open for sales on 2g high-speed cards, you can sometimes find them for $20 or slightly more, usually the best deals involve mail-in rebates though.
 
I'm all set now :cool1:

Got 2 2GB SanDisk Ultra II SD cards at Staples for $40 (on sale for $29 each and I had ink coupons).

My boyfriend is taking me to his favorite spot tomorow so I can start to learn the camera. I'm psyched- spending the day with the boyfriend, riding on the back of his motorcycle, photography with my OWN camera instead of borrowing his when I see a shot :thumbsup2 Nothing could be sweeter :woohoo:
 
Okay, I've been reading through a bunch of different photo. threads all day....and taking down all your notes....

From the POTD thread over to here, etc. etc. etc.

GDAD, YEKCIM, Joe, Groucho, etc. etc. etc.....

Let's see...I'm seeing a lot of you give a thumbs up to the Pentax 100. You're all saying it's cheaper (i.e., body, lenses, etc.). Is that right?

I bought, only two years ago, Kodak's "top of their line" PAS. DX7630....

I got it because it had all the MANUAL stuff on it, but it takes (as usual) great shots outdoors, but crap in low-light and indoor settings....so, I'm thinking it's time to bite the big DSLR bullet.

Plus, it's starting to malfunction--$300 for a PAS shoot--that I have to hit every time I take a picture just to see the review of it! (I'm thinking--don't repair, upgrade to SLR.)

So...after six trips to WDW with pictures that look great on the screen but crappy on your monitor, I don't want to make one more trip w/a PAS. I want some great pictures like you guys are posting on the POTD thread! :)

Why do you guys prefer this Pentax over the other brands? Will I get good pics INSIDE (i.e., low-light situations)? Should I just do a web search for the best prices, packages, etc.

This is a bit off-topic for this thread, but I wanted to catch you guys while you were talking Pentax again.

Thanks! Deb
 
Why do you guys prefer this Pentax over the other brands? Will I get good pics INSIDE (i.e., low-light situations)? Should I just do a web search for the best prices, packages, etc.

This is a bit off-topic for this thread, but I wanted to catch you guys while you were talking Pentax again.

Thanks! Deb
Nothing wrong with asking but if you haven't already seen it, you may want to read through the Looking for the best SLR for Low Light shots thread.
 
For low light, it is more to do with the lens than the camera. The ISO performance of the camera does count also, but you really want to avoid getting to high with it. The 50mm prime lenses are really good for low light work. That said, the Pentax one is a little better than the Canon and Nikon entry level 50mm ones. It is more expensive though at a little over $200 when C&N are closer to $100. The Pentax is a f/1.4 though where the C&N are f/1.8. That makes teh Pentax a little faster than the others by a little. The C&N 50mm f/1.4 models are over $300 if I remember correctly.

The Pentax kit is better than the C&N ones if budget is a concern and the 50mm is not an option.

Kevin
 
Okay, I've been reading through a bunch of different photo. threads all day....and taking down all your notes....

From the POTD thread over to here, etc. etc. etc.

GDAD, YEKCIM, Joe, Groucho, etc. etc. etc.....

Let's see...I'm seeing a lot of you give a thumbs up to the Pentax 100. You're all saying it's cheaper (i.e., body, lenses, etc.). Is that right?

I bought, only two years ago, Kodak's "top of their line" PAS. DX7630....

I got it because it had all the MANUAL stuff on it, but it takes (as usual) great shots outdoors, but crap in low-light and indoor settings....so, I'm thinking it's time to bite the big DSLR bullet.

Plus, it's starting to malfunction--$300 for a PAS shoot--that I have to hit every time I take a picture just to see the review of it! (I'm thinking--don't repair, upgrade to SLR.)

So...after six trips to WDW with pictures that look great on the screen but crappy on your monitor, I don't want to make one more trip w/a PAS. I want some great pictures like you guys are posting on the POTD thread! :)

Why do you guys prefer this Pentax over the other brands? Will I get good pics INSIDE (i.e., low-light situations)? Should I just do a web search for the best prices, packages, etc.

This is a bit off-topic for this thread, but I wanted to catch you guys while you were talking Pentax again.

Thanks! Deb

Hey now- Don't lump me in with the Pentax crowd...:rotfl: I have a Nikon. Although it has been at the repair shop for three weeks now maybe I should be reccomending something else. :rolleyes: I think you are on the right track though. I think all the entry level dslr's are miles above P&S's for a lot of reasons- low light being a big one.
 
I think after all the note-taking and reading, etc. (including staying up late last night and re-reading my PAS' manual), I'm gonna have to go over to a DSLR.....I'm not sure my DPAS' ISO goes up past 800.....
 
Hey now- Don't lump me in with the Pentax crowd...:rotfl: I have a Nikon.

Hey GDAD! Sorry for "lumping" you into that group! How awful of me! :rotfl:

I guess I was lumping you into the "knowledgeable" group instead! My bad!

Keep your great pictures coming on the POTD thread....my whole family enjoys looking at them!

(...and keep the advice coming too!)

Deb
 
Dcanoli,

I think you have seen a lot of discussion here about Pentax dSLR's due to Pentax's aggressive pricing. At present, for an entry level dSLR (and I don't have the figures in front of me), I believe that the Pentax entry level dSLR's are probably the least expensive entre' into the world of big(ger) sensor digital photography. Does that mean that an entry level Pentax is the best camera for you? Not necessarily. Depending on your budget constraints and where you want to go with photography, you might find that a different brand/model best suits you. Keep in mind that a dSLR is a system, not just a camera. dSLR's are designed for flexibility, and the manufacturers are hoping you will buy additional lenses and accessories. I think you will find a great deal of discussion on this board concerning which lens(es) are best for which situation. Most dSLR owners very quickly move beyond just the "kit" lens that generally comes with the camera body, and I think that you will find that most semi-serious dSLR users take at least one extra lens with them to the parks.

If you are in the market for a dSLR, and prefer it to a "super zoom" camera (advantages and disadvantages, both ways), I suggest you read reviews on the cameras *and* the lenses/accessories available for those cameras. A couple of good review sites are www.dpreview.com and www.steves-digicams.com. Both have objective reviews and sample images, the latter being a very good tool in evaluating camera performance, especially where high-ISO image quality is concerned.

Good luck with your search.

~YEKCIM
 
Congrats,

I love my K100D.....can't wait to see your pics that you post...have fun.:thumbsup2
 
Why do you guys prefer this Pentax over the other brands? Will I get good pics INSIDE (i.e., low-light situations)? Should I just do a web search for the best prices, packages, etc.
I'll reply to this and also comment on YEKCIM's comment... which (while perhaps unintentional) can be read as that the sole "plus" of the Pentax is the low cost.

I feel that cost is really not important, it's the value that's important.

If we're talking about entry-level DSLRs, we're basically, at this point, talking about the Pentax K110D/K100D, Nikon D40 (as the D50 is quickly becoming very difficult to find), and the Canon Rebel XT and maybe the XTi (although it's relatively expensive, the same reason why I wouldn't count the D40x, which I think is very overpriced.) Sony doesn't have a "cheap" DSLR and the Olympus is kind of an odd duck, with a smaller and different aspect ratio sensor and some unusual features, but overall, I wouldn't consider it unless you had to have a "live view" LCD and that's all you cared about... or you had a big investment in Olympus lenses already.

There's a few categories we can compare...

Ergonomics... this one is the most subjective, but generally most people seem to prefer the feel of the Nikon and the Pentax over the Canon, which is a little smaller.

Build quality... again, the Canon is frequently singled out for feeling "cheap", I think this is intentional and part of Canon's strategy to encourage you to upgrade to their high models.

Image quality... the Nikon and the Pentax have the same sensor, so in raw mode, you should get identical results (depending on the lens, of course). The Pentax does offer ISO 3200, but you can probably get similar results on the D40 shooting at ISO 1600 and "pushing" it during RAW processing. High-ISO performance is virtually identical between the different cameras, you need to do real pixel-peeping to really notice any.

Features... the Pentax K100D is the only one to offer in-body image stabilization, whereas with C/N, you have to pay for it on a lens-by-lens basis, and of course, most lenses don't have it as an option. (Like a 50mm prime, for example.) The Pentax is the only one with a large 2.5" LCD and a top-mounted status LCD. The Pentax is the only one with DoF preview and spot metering. However, the Pentax also has the smallest buffer, so can take the fewest photos in a row when continuous shooting. To sum up, the IS is the big differentiator, but even forgetting that, it can generally hold up quite well on a feature-by-feature comparison.

Lens quality... well, the Pentax kit lens, quite not an incredible performer, is pretty consistently rated as the best of the kit lenses, and is the only one with a metal mount, a true focus ring, and a non-rotating front element, which allows you to use circular polarizers and other filters that you don't want rotating on their own. Canon's cheaper lenses are often OK but not stellar (again, I think this is part of their plan to encourage buying expensive "L" lenses). Pentax generally has very nice lens quality, including several that can go head-to-head or beat the absolute best from anyone else, but they don't have quite as many available as the competition. Generally, you can find whatever you're looking for, though... but if you have some specific lenses in mind, you may want to double-check.

Legacy lenses... the Pentax will work with any Pentax-mount lens ever, with full functionality. The Canon will also work with older lenses but not their whole catalog and there are occasional stories of certain lenses that just don't work, or need to be "chipped", or whatnot. The Nikon D40 can't focus any lenses that don't have internal focus motors, which is a huge handicip IMHO. I think good legacy lens functionalty is a very nice feature as there have been a lot of stellar lenses made in the past that you can get for reasonable prices, some of which are better than the comparable ones that you can buy new.

Price... obviously this is where the Pentax really shines. The good news is that you'll continue to save money as you won't have to buy lenses that have image stabilization in them. This will also likely make the lenses more reliable. The D40 is pretty cheap but is kind of stripped of features compared to the D50 that it replaced. The Canons are a little pricier and justify it with more megapixels.

Ultimately, though... the big difference is the difference between a PnS and a proper DSLR. The image quality difference between the DSLRs is very slight; generally, you can't tell a good Pentax picture from a Nikon one or a Canon one or a Sony one. I am certainly not here to knock the quality of the other systems, but for sheer value, I don't think the others can touch the value of a K100D w/kit lens and 50-200mm for around $575.
 
Dcanoli,

It is like YEKCIM said about Pentax. They are the cheapest DSLRs around right now. I was also considering the Rebel XT and the Nikon D50, but felt that the K100D had a little more to offer than them at a lower price. To put it in plain and simple terms, any DSLR is going to be worlds better than a p&s. The Pentax kit lens also has a little better build and optical quality than the C&N offerings, so it is reasonable to keep using it for a longer period of time. I added a couple used lenses so I have some tele reach and a 50mm prime for low light. The 50-200mm DA lens from Pentax is a great addition to the kit.

If you are a sports photographer, then the K100D might not be the best DSLR due to having only a three shot buffer in RAW. Their K10D improves on this though, so it is not a weakness of Pentax, only that model. It was not important to me at all, but might be to others.

Kevin
 
Dcanoli,

I think you have seen a lot of discussion here about Pentax dSLR's due to Pentax's aggressive pricing. At present, for an entry level dSLR (and I don't have the figures in front of me), I believe that the Pentax entry level dSLR's are probably the least expensive entre' into the world of big(ger) sensor digital photography. Does that mean that an entry level Pentax is the best camera for you? Not necessarily. Depending on your budget constraints and where you want to go with photography, you might find that a different brand/model best suits you. Keep in mind that a dSLR is a system, not just a camera. dSLR's are designed for flexibility, and the manufacturers are hoping you will buy additional lenses and accessories. I think you will find a great deal of discussion on this board concerning which lens(es) are best for which situation. Most dSLR owners very quickly move beyond just the "kit" lens that generally comes with the camera body, and I think that you will find that most semi-serious dSLR users take at least one extra lens with them to the parks.

If you are in the market for a dSLR, and prefer it to a "super zoom" camera (advantages and disadvantages, both ways), I suggest you read reviews on the cameras *and* the lenses/accessories available for those cameras. A couple of good review sites are www.dpreview.com and www.steves-digicams.com. Both have objective reviews and sample images, the latter being a very good tool in evaluating camera performance, especially where high-ISO image quality is concerned.

Good luck with your search.

~YEKCIM

Yekcim,

I agree completely....I have two film SLRs, and I have plenty of stuff to go with them...one is a Minolta and other is my Dad's old Nikon. I love the idea of different lenses, filters, etc. etc. etc.

I guess my main objectives are (a) price and (b) being able to get good/great pictures.

I thought that when I went for the best of the PASs, with all the manual features, I would be able to get great shots, but I just haven't been able to. I am attributing that to the camera being a PAS and just being limited.

I hate that I paid $300 for it, and I'm still not getting better than average shots. Does that make sense?

I have been to the dp website, but I will do a lot more looking at it before making a final decision. I will also look at the other website you recommended.

Since so much stuff at DisneyWorld (and in life in general) seems to be indoors or in low-light situations, I would like a camera/lenses package, etc. that I can use in those places.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction...after the kids are asleep tonight, I'll probably hit the web again!

Thanks Yekcim! Deb
 
....50mm prime for low light. The 50-200mm DA lens from Pentax is a great addition to the kit.

If you are a sports photographer, then the K100D might not be the best DSLR due to having only a three shot buffer in RAW. Their K10D improves on this though, so it is not a weakness of Pentax, only that model. It was not important to me at all, but might be to others.

Kevin

Thank you Kevin and Groucho--exactly what I was thinking and asking for (i.e., advice). I am definitely going to do the research that Yekcim suggests later tonight, but my mind was going in the same direction as the two of you.

One other quick question....I was looking at a package deal that has the K100D body, the 18-50mm lens (or whatever the specific numbers were--it escapes me at the moment...), and the 50-200mm lens. Would you recommend combining the kit w/the tele lens or would you recommend the single-focus prime? How does the 18-50mm compare w/the prime for low-light/indoor situations?

Deb
 
I'll reply to this and also comment on YEKCIM's comment... which (while perhaps unintentional) can be read as that the sole "plus" of the Pentax is the low cost.

Groucho:

Just to clarify, my comment *was* not meant to be construed as implying that Pentax's only virtue is price. In suggesting that folks looking for an upgrade in a particular price range consider a Pentax, I was trying to point out that a dSLR may be an attractive alternative and, in fact, not much more cold cash, than a high end P&S. As stated elsewhere, if Mrs. YEKCIM had not limited my options by taking the plunge on a Nikon D200, I would most likely have ended up with a K100D.

~YEKCIM
 














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