First CARS @ AoA-Now CARS LAND @ DHS!?

[plutosdoghouse]

No way should they ever build a carsland without the huge mountain range. The mountain range is absolutely necessary for the "land". If they brought one ride, like maters, then yes they could skip it but if you build all of radiator springs you HAVE to have the mountain range.

You gave no reason so why?

In the Radiator Sprngs Racers attraction there is no need for the mountain other than to blcok the view of the ride building. If all you have is Willy's Butte and the Radiator Cap that would be enough.

 

[Disneyfreak44]

You gave no reason so why?

In the Radiator Sprngs Racers attraction there is no need for the mountain other than to blcok the view of the ride building. If all you have is Willy's Butte and the Radiator Cap that would be enough.

People would scrutinize Disney for being cheap, and I really think if they add Cars Land in DHS without the mountain range that would really hurt them it's details like the mountain range that people like

 

[ChrisFL]

People would scrutinize Disney for being cheap, and I really think if they add Cars Land in DHS without the mountain range that would really hurt them it's details like the mountain range that people like

Exactly, its one thing to have an attraction like Tower of Terror that's mostly equal until you get in the ride itself and notice the differences...but when you have an entire exterior that can be seen quite clearly for anyone comparing photos...its going to lead to comparisons.

 

[pilferk]

Officially DCA's big project cost 1.1 Billion in total.

Of that they built Carsland, WoC, Little Mermaid, the new entrance area- Bueana Vista Street, and some other small projects. Also Disney has stated that Toy Story Midway Mania was the start of that project but some state the development was not in that 1.1 Billio which leave on the constrution.

So take the 1.1 billion and subtract out WoC at over 250 Million and Little Mermaid at over 100 M and all you have left is 750 million. With 750 million left you still have to tear out the entrance and put in a new one, including a huge restuarant and trolley. Redo a couple large restraunts in the pier area. Build Toy Story and some small building arounds it. Retheme the wild mouse and swinging chairs rides.

When you break out Carsland it was probably a ways under 750 million. It also includes a big mountain range which not only adds to the Radiator Springs theme but happens to block out Power Lines, Hotels and the convention center across the street. This wouldn't be a nessecary component of a new Cars Land.

I can only tell you what the press accounts say. The figure they're throwing around is 750 million.

Just like the FLE number is 300 million.

Since we won't get actual NUMBERS from Disney...we'll have to stick to those.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

With any hope te backlot tour will die the death it needs to die.

x2

 

[Jenny3]

I'd personally love to see an Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton's version) themed ride. The possibilities are endless if they went that route

 

[hfuellgraf]

I'm pretty confidant based on the Orlando Paper saying the lady that was in charge of Cars Land moved to Orlando. Sounds too cool! Super exciting news!

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I'm pretty confidant based on the Orlando Paper saying the lady that was in charge of Cars Land moved to Orlando. Sounds too cool! Super exciting news!

You would think...
But typically the LAST thing an "imagineer" would want attached to them
Is the stigma that they are "specialists" in one particular thing - i.e. "wherever _____goes...tower if terror follows"

That would probably be Downright offensive to 99.9% of those who are worth a damn

 

[plutosdoghouse]

I can only tell you what the press accounts say. The figure they're throwing around is 750 million.

Just like the FLE number is 300 million.

Since we won't get actual NUMBERS from Disney...we'll have to stick to those.

Try reading what I posted again and pay attention to the math and logic. 750M minus the cost of many other projects is less than 750M.

So take the 1.1 billion and subtract out WoC at over 250 Million and Little Mermaid at over 100 M and all you have left is 750 million. With 750 million left you still have to tear out the entrance and put in a new one, including a huge restuarant and trolley. Redo a couple large restraunts in the pier area. Build Toy Story and some small building arounds it. Retheme the wild mouse and swinging chairs rides.

When you break out Carsland it was probably a ways under 750 million.

I'm pretty confidant based on the Orlando Paper saying the lady that was in charge of Cars Land moved to Orlando. Sounds too cool! Super exciting news!

This information came out nearly a month ago. Her name is Kathy Magnum. This has already been mentioned at the start of this thread. It's purely speculation that she is going east to build another Carsland, especially when other announced projests are going on. Also to discredit this notion why did she lead the project in Anaheim but going to florida to lead all the park project leaders, instead of focusing on a second Carsland.

 

[pilferk]

Try reading what I posted again and pay attention to the math and logic. 750M minus the cost of many other projects is less than 750M.

I read it. I have also read the press accounts that specifically say Cars Land cost 750 million. Maybe they were over budget, or costed other elements out differently. I can only tell you what I have seen published.

Absent actual data, the press accounts are a bit mote trustworthy than your math and logic.

So, short of data from disney or an updated, trustworthy press account....I still say the 750 million is the widely accepted number. If your going to use your own set of numbers...thats likely to be your disconnect in any discussions on the topic.

I am more than willing to consider different numbers from an established, trustworthy, published source if you have them.

 

[Figment1990]

You gave no reason so why?

In the Radiator Sprngs Racers attraction there is no need for the mountain other than to blcok the view of the ride building. If all you have is Willy's Butte and the Radiator Cap that would be enough.

Have you been to carsland yet?

 

[tjkraz]

So take the 1.1 billion and subtract out WoC at over 250 Million...

Most sources have World of Color's budget around $75 million.

 

[tjkraz]

People would scrutinize Disney for being cheap, and I really think if they add Cars Land in DHS without the mountain range that would really hurt them it's details like the mountain range that people like

"Cars Land", yes. But the question is whether Disney would be interested in a Cars attraction which does not necessitate building the entire town. They could still use the Test Track ride system, replicate many of the audio animatronics from RSR and yet still make it different from the DCA version.

This is purely speculative but one poster on another forum suggested they could build some sort of Cars Tokyo attraction similar to one of the Pixar shorts released between the two Cars films. Have the attraction entirely indoors to give it a night time look.

Again, completely speculative and possibly very expensive, but it's an example of an alternate approach to using those characters & ride system.

If they don't copy the entire town, yes I'm sure WDW would get flak from a lot of circles for taking a cheaper approach. But personally this is one time I would welcome it. Rather than spending hundreds-of-thousands on a carbon copy mountain range, put some of that money toward the Monster's Inc coaster and other attractions.

The full Cars Land would still be just a plane ride away.

 

[ChrisFL]

This is purely speculative but one poster on another forum suggested they could build some sort of Cars Tokyo attraction similar to one of the Pixar shorts released between the two Cars films. Have the attraction entirely indoors to give it a night time look.

Ooh, Cars Tokyo......Tokyo Mater....I LIKE IT!

 

[DanBoris]

You gave no reason so why?

In the Radiator Sprngs Racers attraction there is no need for the mountain other than to blcok the view of the ride building. If all you have is Willy's Butte and the Radiator Cap that would be enough.

The mountains form the environment that half the ride takes place in. They could probably get away with scaling down some of taller peaks, but the fast majority of the rock work needs to be there for the ride to be effective.

 

[pilferk]

Most sources have World of Color's budget around $75 million.

Thats the number I have seen most frequently, too. I thought maybe I had missed something...

Just as I had seen 200 million for Racers.

There is roughly 175 million to cover "the rest" (between the estimates of 250 million and 75 million). More than enough, I think.

 

[SkaGoat]

I would bet you wouldn't need a full $75 million to do a second World of Color. A lot of that cost will have been development costs which wouldn't have to be paid again.

 

[pilferk]

I would bet you wouldn't need a full $75 million to do a second World of Color. A lot of that cost will have been development costs which wouldn't have to be paid again.

World of Color wasn't part of Cars Land. It was separate (both in terms of location and in terms of budget costs).

 

[ChipnDale79]

For those of you that were so sure Disney wasn't going to do this, do you still think that? And if so, why?

 

[tjkraz]

For those of you that were so sure Disney wasn't going to do this, do you still think that? And if so, why?

I'll reserve commentary until made official in some capacity. I will be very surprised if the investment and quality are equal to California Adventure. There are many areas in which corners could be cut.

And on a personal level, this is totally disheartening to me. There is no limit to the unique, amazing things Disney could bring to the parks with upward of a half billion dollars to spend.

LMA and Backlot Tour aren't the most compelling attractions but at least they are unique (to Disney's US parks.) I can only speak for one family--four people--but a carbon copy of something that was already done so well on the other side of the country does nothing to help earn more of our dollars. Gives DHS even less that's unique, and us even less reason to go.