Fire Twirler at FOTLK

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Who is this guy and what planet is he from?

I mean that in the most complimentary way.

Where does one learn to twirl fire like that, and what does that guy eat to get his physique??

I am always impressed every time I see him (or them, as the case may be).
 
There is an interview with a fire twirler on the DME video. I forget what country he is from, but he learned to be a fire twirler from his uncle. Wish I could remember more. :)
 

There must be at least two or three of them, right?

I'll have to read more about it and find out why fire twirling is a "thing" on Samoa.

Makes me wish it was a "thing" in Georgia. ;)
It's totally a "thing" in Samoa! The amazing gentleman at the Poly Luau is also from Samoa and he kills it with that fire knife dancing every time. We talked about it with a Samoan-Hawaiian emigrant in Hawaii and he said it is a cool side of their culture that is sort of a...well, a "thing" :p. It's a part of a traditional dance.
 
So I read that it was added to the traditional knife dance. It is used to psyche up warriors before battle. Well, it certainly psyches me up.
:goodvibes
 
I don't know if it still happens, but as of last year there was a nightly torch lighting ceremony at The Polynesian with a fire dancer. We also enjoyed that one... it was just outside the lobby & you could stand fairly close to watch
 
It's actually not all that strange (and it actually *is* a thing in Georgia, one of the few places in the US where baton twirling is still quite popular.) I started doing it when I was 13. If you already are a skilled baton twirler, moving to a fire baton isn't a huge challenge. The trick is that once you light the baton, you have to keep it moving, only stopping it in a perfectly horizontal position in order to prevent getting burned by the rising flame. You can get the moving flame quite close to your skin without a burn, because it's going so fast: just like quickly passing your finger through a candle flame. You do have to be careful about your costume, though; no components that can melt.

You can buy a standard fire baton on Amazon; it's a vented hollow steel shaft with very high-density canvas wrapped around and screwed into each end; the canvas doesn't burn as long as gas is present, and they essentially last forever if you take care of them; I've been using mine for over 30 years now. The dancers in the show sometimes use this type, and sometimes the more traditional Samoan version that has a thicker shaft and is hand-wrapped on the ends. Traditional male dancers deliberately build very heavy calluses on their hands and feet so that they can directly expose them to flame for short periods.
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The "hole" in the stage that you see him take it out of is an air-tight steel soaker box, into which about 1/4 inch of fuel has been poured after the previous show; the baton is set into it to soak up the fuel. (Batons are always fueled with camping-stove fuel; naptha.) When the baton is placed back in the box the tight lid extinguishes the flame.

FWIW, I also own a set of Samoan twirling knives. Those are exponentially more difficult to handle than a fire baton. While the edges are dull, each one weighs about 5 lbs., and the hook on the end is nasty even without a sharp edge.
 
It's actually not all that strange (and it actually *is* a thing in Georgia, one of the few places in the US where baton twirling is still quite popular.) I started doing it when I was 13. If you already are a skilled baton twirler, moving to a fire baton isn't a huge challenge. The trick is that once you light the baton, you have to keep it moving, only stopping it in a perfectly horizontal position in order to prevent getting burned by the rising flame. You can get the moving flame quite close to your skin without a burn, because it's going so fast: just like quickly passing your finger through a candle flame. You do have to be careful about your costume, though; no components that can melt.

You can buy a standard fire baton on Amazon; it's a vented hollow steel shaft with very high-density canvas wrapped around and screwed into each end; the canvas doesn't burn as long as gas is present, and they essentially last forever if you take care of them; I've been using mine for over 30 years now. The dancers in the show sometimes use this type, and sometimes the more traditional Samoan version that has a thicker shaft and is hand-wrapped on the ends. Traditional male dancers deliberately build very heavy calluses on their hands and feet so that they can directly expose them to flame for short periods.
1Firebaton%20(1024x243).jpg


The "hole" in the stage that you see him take it out of is an air-tight steel soaker box, into which about 1/4 inch of fuel has been poured after the previous show; the baton is set into it to soak up the fuel. (Batons are always fueled with camping-stove fuel; naptha.) When the baton is placed back in the box the tight lid extinguishes the flame.

FWIW, I also own a set of Samoan twirling knives. Those are exponentially more difficult to handle than a fire baton. While the edges are dull, each one weighs about 5 lbs., and the hook on the end is nasty even without a sharp edge.
That sounds cool. Is there a place where you perform in Georgia, or where people can watch performances?

I hope my ten year old doesn't find out about this. I can just hear her asking for a "standard fire baton" for Christmas. :eek:
 
That sounds cool. Is there a place where you perform in Georgia, or where people can watch performances?

I hope my ten year old doesn't find out about this. I can just hear her asking for a "standard fire baton" for Christmas. :eek:

I'm not in Georgia, but in my competitive days I encountered very stiff competition there. You can certainly watch a performance if you attend a UGA home football game: they still have a feature twirler who is nicknamed "the Fire Girl"; the person who gets that role is usually a national champion twirler, and often will twirl two fire batons simultaneously. (Tech has a feature twirler as well, but she doesn't always do fire.)

There are still a lot of twirling academies in Georgia. Just Google "baton twirling" Georgia, and you will find any number of them. I'm sure a call to one of the schools will point you to local competitions where fire is an event.
 
It really is more common than you think. I have several friends that are fire performers. They'll bust it out at birthday parties and other gatherings. There's a lot of them out there, I think it's just still more of an "alternative/underground scene" thing. I know all of them through working at Renaissance faires.
 
@AtlantaDisneyDreamer ~ I was sent this photo from WL's DVC Grand Opening and thought I would post it for your assessment (AKA your viewing pleasure ;) ). There's been so much fat-shaming on TPAS lately, this is a nice distraction:
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When I had asked why WL needed a torch lighting, I was told no one knew but the female CMs weren't complaining. :goodvibes
 
@AtlantaDisneyDreamer ~ I was sent this photo from WL's DVC Grand Opening and thought I would post it for your assessment (AKA your viewing pleasure ;) ). There's been so much fat-shaming on TPAS lately, this is a nice distraction:
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When I had asked why WL needed a torch lighting, I was told no one knew but the female CMs weren't complaining. :goodvibes

I think the torch thing was passing the torch from the Poly to Copper Creek since the Poly was the last DVC to open...maybe...I wonder if he twirled the torch too ;)
 


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