Finally theres peace in the NFL

[MagicKingdom05]

The owners just agreed 30-2 on a 6 year CBA extention. Thank goodness.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9293409

 

[foolishmortal]

It's about time.

Alright Broncos just a little over 24 hours and you can start signing some free agents!!!!

 

[MagicKingdom05]

I'm not sure the owners had much of a choice here. If they didn't agree to it, bye bye salary cap for good.

 

[foolishmortal]

I'm not sure the owners had much of a choice here. If they didn't agree to it, bye bye salary cap for good.

true. The bad thing about it is it was basically the owners vs the owners.

although no cap would have been good as my Broncos like to spend spend spend!

but I like the cap and the parody that comes with evry NFL Sunday right now.

 

[MagicKingdom05]

Very true. The players said, here's our offer take it or leave it and it was basically the large market owners vs the small market owners instead of the owners vs the players assocaition. Very very strange situation.

 

[MagicKingdom05]

Now they have pushed back free agency until 12:01 am on Saturday not Friday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2360258

 

[Nancy]

Ralph Wilson of the Bills voted against this. I guess we'll see an increase in our season tickets again if this will cost the team money. I'll have to see exactly what has been agreed to so I know what to expect.

 

[MICKEY88]

true. The bad thing about it is it was basically the owners vs the owners.

although no cap would have been good as my Broncos like to spend spend spend!

but I like the cap and the parody that comes with evry NFL Sunday right now.

ummm do you mean parity...??

 

[foolishmortal]

ummm do you mean parity...??

That's what I mean if you are the dictionary police yes.



sorry for having offended you by using the wrong word.

 

[Bob Slydell]

Ralph Wilson of the Bills voted against this. I guess we'll see an increase in our season tickets again if this will cost the team money. I'll have to see exactly what has been agreed to so I know what to expect.

I doubt it will cost the Bills money -- supposedly, the agreement adjusts the revenue sharing agreement so that higher-revenue teams pay a higher percentage of money in the revenue sharing pool than lower-revenue teams (like the Bills).

 

[foolishmortal]

I doubt it will cost the Bills money -- supposedly, the agreement adjusts the revenue sharing agreement so that higher-revenue teams pay a higher percentage of money in the revenue sharing pool than lower-revenue teams (like the Bills).

I still think that is a bunch of crock!!!!


that's like opening a mall and then all the anchor stores have to revune share to keep the small stores from closing.

If you can't keep the football team competitve & profitable sell it to someone who can!!!!

Buggalo for example should have way more revune based off of location and people etc...but Denver is a small market yet makes TONS more then alot of teams....it's called good ownership!

 

[Bob Slydell]

If you can't keep the football team competitve & profitable sell it to someone who can!!!!

Buggalo for example should have way more revune based off of location and people etc...but Denver is a small market yet makes TONS more then alot of teams....it's called good ownership!

It has nothing to do with profitability and how competitive a team is. It's about the popularity of a team (e.g. jersey sales are considered, but not ticket sales) and the amount of advertising and other media outlet revenue that's available to a team (e.g. television rights aren't included).

 

[cardaway]

It has nothing to do with profitability and how competitive a team is. It's about the popularity of a team (e.g. jersey sales are considered, but not ticket sales) and the amount of advertising and other media outlet revenue that's available to a team (e.g. television rights aren't included).

Exactly. Denver isn't even a small market team. Buggalo and Green Bay are small market teams.

It would have made for a very interesting, but really damaging, off season had this deal not happened. Now teams will be able to keep some of their long time veterans, and in some cases, add a couple more.

 

[foolishmortal]

It has nothing to do with profitability and how competitive a team is. It's about the popularity of a team (e.g. jersey sales are considered, but not ticket sales) and the amount of advertising and other media outlet revenue that's available to a team (e.g. television rights aren't included).

exacty and who makes a team popular...the team....if they win they would sell apperal and get the media jazz.....but the lower teams don't win because they don't spend...but they don't spend because they say they don't have the money. How can Buffale an East coast team....not generate apperal sales and get a cut of that huge tv market....because they are not a good team.....why are they not a good team....they don't spend...why don't they spend...bad ownership.

If an owner cannot run his team like everyone else what gives them the right to ask other teams to help?

again that is like my above example....a mall with say dillards, macy's etc...doesn't have Macy's give a share of revune to joe's card and candy shop to stay open!

 

[foolishmortal]

Exactly. Denver isn't even a small market team. Buggalo and Green Bay are small market teams.

It would have made for a very interesting, but really damaging, off season had this deal not happened. Now teams will be able to keep some of their long time veterans, and in some cases, add a couple more.

denver isn't small market?


when it comes to the tv media, side of things Denver certainly is small market!!


but we have great ownership who puts a competeive team which inrturn people by the appearal. and watch the coaches and players shows etc...

I agree a deal had to get done..I just don't agree with having to help the other teams!


Green Bay would get by fine on thier own I believe without help as would a few others...but if a team cannot sustain itself get new ownership

 

[Bob Slydell]

exacty and who makes a team popular...the team....if they win they would sell apperal and get the media jazz.....but the lower teams don't win because they don't spend...but they don't spend because they say they don't have the money. How can Buffale an East coast team....not generate apperal sales and get a cut of that huge tv market....because they are not a good team.....why are they not a good team....they don't spend...why don't they spend...bad ownership.

First of all -- ever take a geograhy course? Buffalo is far from an "East Coast" team.

Secondly, did I imagine this, or wasn't Buffalo in a whole bunch of Super Bowls a while ago?

 

[cardaway]

Secondly, did I imagine this, or wasn't Buffalo in a whole bunch of Super Bowls a while ago?

Pssst... the fans are trying to forget them and you're not helping.

 

[foolishmortal]

First of all -- ever take a geograhy course? Buffalo is far from an "East Coast" team.

Secondly, did I imagine this, or wasn't Buffalo in a whole bunch of Super Bowls a while ago?

Sorry buffalo new york is closer than most other teams in the NFL to the east coast...Buffalo is closer to nig market for media then Denver is.

And yes Buffalo was in the super bowls when Denver wasn't that was an afc monoply at the time denver and buffalo....whats the point there??????

Denver managed to do just fine...buffalo wants to rely on the past instead of looking to today's product.

With the money that is generate by this sport in the country it would be almost impossible to run a team and not make money if you have any business sense of today and the future.

You could throw a team in the middle of nowere if you can get them to pay for a stadium and make tons of money.

Bowlen did that here...he said hey if you want us to stay competitive then you need to pay for a new stadium..we did, and he has kept us competitive.

Bowlen knows in order to make money you need to spend money..these other owners seem like well I already spent the money to get the team...now since I am keeping it here, that should be enough be happy with the product I throw out.

 

[foolishmortal]

Pssst... the fans are trying to forget them and you're not helping.

lol...hey I was right with you there!

At least your sb's weren't all blow outs like ours where.

 

[cardaway]

when it comes to the tv media, side of things Denver certainly is small market!!

But as Bob pointed out earlier, the TV revenues are split so that doesn't enter into the equation.

but we have great ownership who puts a competeive team which inrturn people by the appearal. and watch the coaches and players shows etc...

I agree a deal had to get done..I just don't agree with having to help the other teams!


Green Bay would get by fine on thier own I believe without help as would a few others...but if a team cannot sustain itself get new ownership

What help?

The ownership has very little to do with team success. The Redskins have had the highest salary and got very little in return. The management, especially the coach and a good General Manager making the right draft/sign/release decision is what makes or breaks a NFL team.

Baseball is the only sport IMO where the owner can buy a championship, which BTW, is the only major porfessional sport without a salary cap.