Fear the Walking Dead - anyone?

[MickeySP]

I am pretty sure it was the guy coughing while loading his trunk, that would be the neighbors. When Alicia was going to Matt's house you saw her walking a distance & skateboarders going by, if Matt lived across the street she wouldn't be walking that far.

It will be intersting after Matt turns, I just get the feeling they will meet him again. Maybe that will be when they tell her the real deal.

 

[LiveYourLife]

Wasn't that their neighbors? The guy who was packing and coughing when they came back from killing Cal? I may have it wrong, but I thought that's where that shot was, and I assumed he was the one going after the the neighbors across the street where the party was.

We had the same discussion in our house. My husband thought it was the boyfriend's house and I thought it was the neighbor's-it flashed so quickly!!

It wasn't the neighbor. Coughing neighbor was loading an SUV. Abandoned car and suitcases in the driveway was a sedan.

Abandoned car and suitcases were also sitting in front of the same house that Alicia walked in to when she showed up at Matt's house.

 

[elgerber]

I will have to watch again, I also believed it to be the neighbor. Especially since shortly after they showed that, the neighbors across the street were attacked. We already know that Matt will turn, since we saw his bite.
I would have liked to have been told when and how he got bit though.

 

[MickeySP]

Same here, gonna watch it again. I will say that FTWD has alot of subtle nuances in every episode, so I think I will have to double watch each episode. Not that it is a bad thing

 

[Heidict]

I thought the house was the boyfriends also. The front looked just like the one that the daughter walked up when going to his house.

 

[DisReno]

Well, as usual, after reading this thread, I may have to watch again. You guys are all just more observant than I am. I thought the house was the neighbors. There are so many details to this. I think the show is very well done. It's amazing how quickly society falls apart. Would that be true in real life? I don't know. I know it takes an act of the school board to change the school calendar, so to send kids home early, like they did on the first episode, would be a major deal...not because someone got shot on camera.

Also, I'm wondering...some people (the boyfriend, the principal) are showing up with marks, like bite marks. Did they get bit? How? Why bit and not eaten? Or is it just a sore, like a virus, that grows?

Again, it's just so weird how quickly society falls.

 

[elgerber]

I too am still wondering if the virus makes some people sick. At first I thought for sure when Matt was sick, but then we saw the bite. And the neighbor was coughing like he had the flu, when he was packing his car. But again, could have been bit I suppose. I would like to know what happened to Artie, since we saw him at the beginning appearing to be walking around the school still healthy, then later has something that got blood all over his back and killed him.

 

[jetskigrl]

Wasn't that their neighbors? The guy who was packing and coughing when they came back from killing Cal? I may have it wrong, but I thought that's where that shot was, and I assumed he was the one going after the the neighbors across the street where the party was.

That is what we thought too. When they arrived home, they looked over at the neighbor packing his car. I'm pretty sure the suitcase was still sitting beside the car. And he was visibly sick.
So when they showed that scene, we assumed it was the neighbor and he never made it to finish packing. He turned and then went after the people across the street.

I really need to go back and re-watch it then

 

[sharona]

I really enjoyed the second episode! The build up and watching the confusion as the characters are figuring things out is suspenseful! I thought the daughter was going to leave and go back to the sick guy. (sorry I'm bad at character names. Too early in the show to remember them all.)

Two things I'm thinking so far:

-The "virus" is working and spreading pretty fast. At this rate it's going to be similar to Walking Dead quickly. I hope the show slows the pace a bit or it could get too similar to WD.

-What are the characters going to do now?? They are separated!? No phones. Ugh!!!

And we have to wait 2 weeks for the next show. Yikes.

Loved Epidsode 2. When they talked about going "to the desert", do you think they have their own place there? Is that a thing in LA? How else would he catch up to them like he was suggesting? Without phones you'll never randomly find someone despite what TWD did with Rick and Shane/Lori/Karl. With the riots there will be a lot of cover for the walkers to find victims and increase their numbers - the city will be quickly overwhelmed but how to get out with the freeways completely clogged?

One thing I noted in this series, compared to TWD is there seems to be less blood and gore. When the mom bashed in the head they didn't show anything. If it had been TWD we would have seen the hits and ensuing head smashing and brains all over.

I definitely see that being due to the lack of decay on the walkers. Hard to break through a healthy skull!

Well, we can assume that Matt (Alicia's Boyfriend) turned, as the very last scene with the car in the driveway, with the trunk open and the luggage sitting there was Matt's house. I'm thinking Matt ate his Parents.

Loving the show so far!

It wasn't the neighbor. Coughing neighbor was loading an SUV. Abandoned car and suitcases in the driveway was a sedan.

Abandoned car and suitcases were also sitting in front of the same house that Alicia walked in to when she showed up at Matt's house.

Wow - great catch. Add me to the list of those who need to rewatch!! I totally thought it was the family's neighbor's car and suitcase but if you are right that was awesomely subtle. You'd think they would have tried to warn Matt's parents somehow.

 

[indimom]

It's the boyfriend's house in that short clip, I went back and checked. We missed that the first time through also (thought it was the coughing neighbor).

It WAS the coughing neighbor attacking the birthday party neighbor. He had on the same plaid shirt. Maybe he was waiting for someone before they left? Or he got too sick to leave?

I find it hard to believe that the boyfriend didn't tell the daughter he was bitten by someone. That seems like a story most people would tell from the start. I mean how often are you bitten by another human being in your life?? Seems like everyone is avoiding telling the daughter what's going on. Not just the adults.

The coughing neighbor had no obvious injury. Maybe within a few episodes we'll know whether he bandaged up a bite and it was under his clothes, or if some people are just getting sick... I could see how that's possible also. Maybe the infection sickens and kills some people (people with poor immune systems for example) while others become carriers until death. Who knows??

Anyone else note that the mom and the teen left his supplies behind after fighting off the principal? You can tell it's still early in the infection. No way would TWD characters leave behind a cart full of supplies after fighting off a walker. lol. In fact, assuming the school is now "all clear" they would have cleaned the place out.

I completely understand why the mom didn't go help the neighbor. She just 'killed' her coworker/boss/friend. And at this point probably believes the infected are just sick/out of their minds, but "curable," so she feels like she killed him instead of saving him. I don't think she wanted to put her kids at risk by drawing attention to themselves and their home, but I also think she wasn't up to killing another friend/neighbor right after what she had to do at the school.

Surely after seeing the neighbor attacked, she'll finally realize she needs a weapon or two? I was surprised when she didn't start packing, planning, organizing when she got home. Weapons and Water (since their heading to the desert) would be my high priority at this point. I'd be thinking baseball bat, golf club, crowbar or something along those lines. So far, her family has had better luck with blunt force than knives and guns.

 

[Jennasis]

A question I have about TWD/FtWD zombie mythos...I assume zombies are continually, albeit slowly, decomposing. That's why some look like walking carcasses and the freshly turned look, well...like meth heads. So how long does it take a turned zombie to decay COMPLETELY? Do they NEED to feed to stay "alive"? Couldn't the survivors just wait it out until all the turned zombie decomposed into nothing and then go about with their lives (being sure to finish any newly dead companions off with a head shot)?

 

[tnkr_bell]

I was thinking the neighbor who was sick possibly came into contact with a Walker, otherwise how would he know to be packing up and get out of town.

Also, with the Principal. Did you notice the tape outline of a body in either his office or the nurses office (can't remember which one). I'm thinking he got attacked and killed and then turned. Plus the rolling door into the cafeteria was already open, I wonder if somebody else had broken in previously to steal some food and supplies.

 

[elgerber]

I was thinking the neighbor who was sick possibly came into contact with a Walker, otherwise how would he know to be packing up and get out of town.

Also, with the Principal. Did you notice the tape outline of a body in either his office or the nurses office (can't remember which one). I'm thinking he got attacked and killed and then turned. Plus the rolling door into the cafeteria was already open, I wonder if somebody else had broken in previously to steal some food and supplies.

I did see the tape outline. That room was a police liason room or something, so I think that was probably just something that was always on the floor in there.

 

[tnkr_bell]

I did see the tape outline. That room was a police liason room or something, so I think that was probably just something that was always on the floor in there.

That's true...she didn't seem too surprised to see it there.

 

[hopemax]

A question I have about TWD/FtWD zombie mythos...I assume zombies are continually, albeit slowly, decomposing. That's why some look like walking carcasses and the freshly turned look, well...like meth heads. So how long does it take a turned zombie to decay COMPLETELY? Do they NEED to feed to stay "alive"? Couldn't the survivors just wait it out until all the turned zombie decomposed into nothing and then go about with their lives (being sure to finish any newly dead companions off with a head shot)?

I had the same thoughts last night. At what point has a zombie's body deteriorated so that a gust of wind, will knock the torso off its legs. In the original show, most of society has already been wiped out, so there can't be much "fresh meat" to sustain the zombie hoards relative to the size of the hoard. Sun, rain, wind, banging into stuff, falling etc. At what point does any remaining tendon or muscle just give out, turning them into a Black Knight from Monty Python (head is alive, but how much damage can you do if you have no arms and legs).

 

[LittleMissMagic]

I will have to watch again, I also believed it to be the neighbor. Especially since shortly after they showed that, the neighbors across the street were attacked. We already know that Matt will turn, since we saw his bite.
I would have liked to have been told when and how he got bit though.

I agree. I was really mad when Travis pointed out the bite, and said, "Is that how it starts?" but didn't ask Matt who bit him. It's weird because people don't go around biting people, so why wouldn't you ask how someone got bit or by what? That was the most unrealistic part to me. Because Matt was laying there, sending Alicia away like he knew he was going to die, but he didn't tell them what happened to him. He knew valuable information he could've shared!!!

Another thing I wonder - the "virus" is in everyone. When you die, no matter how, you come back as a zombie. So whatever it is that makes a person a zombie is already in them as a person. Why does a zombie bite cause an "infection" which kills? A zombie is really no different from a person except that it's dead. So I'm wondering if a normal (live) human bite that breaks the skin could cause an infection and kill, too? It's not normal for people to bite one another's flesh open, and we've only seen a human bite another human once when Rick bit his attacker, who he ended up killing on the scene (so we don't know whether that bite could have made him sick). The zombie bite/scratch cause of death has always bothered me because that's something one wouldn't normally die from. Bleeding out, yeah. Scratch? Why????

 

[hopemax]

I've also wondered about "Everyone is infected." There are always mutations and unknown natural immunities, and .000000000000000001% of the population reacts differently. So shouldn't there be someone, somewhere who when they died, stayed dead. Or someone who got bit, doesn't turn. But I suppose that would confuse the narrative.

 

[elgerber]

Another thing I wonder - the "virus" is in everyone. When you die, no matter how, you come back as a zombie. So whatever it is that makes a person a zombie is already in them as a person. Why does a zombie bite cause an "infection" which kills? A zombie is really no different from a person except that it's dead. So I'm wondering if a normal (live) human bite that breaks the skin could cause an infection and kill, too? It's not normal for people to bite one another's flesh open, and we've only seen a human bite another human once when Rick bit his attacker, who he ended up killing on the scene (so we don't know whether that bite could have made him sick). The zombie bite/scratch cause of death has always bothered me because that's something one wouldn't normally die from. Bleeding out, yeah. Scratch? Why????

That is a VERY good question, that has never crossed my mind!

 

[jetskigrl]

I've also wondered about "Everyone is infected." There are always mutations and unknown natural immunities, and .000000000000000001% of the population reacts differently. So shouldn't there be someone, somewhere who when they died, stayed dead. Or someone who got bit, doesn't turn. But I suppose that would confuse the narrative.

I have a theory (which is completely made up inside my head and has no merit whatsoever, LOL). I think people have different tolerances to this airborne virus. Some get sick right away and the virus kills them (and they come back as zombies). Others do not get sick, but the virus remains dormant inside them. Those people are the WD cast, LOL.

But direct contact to the virus from a bite spreads the virus in the bloodstream and delivers it to the organs quicker. That is why in WD, Hershal survived when his leg was cut off, because they stopped the spread to the major organs. And maybe why Tyresse didn't survive because he was bit in the arm and it was closer to the major organs (and it took longer for them to get to him).

And then when people die naturally, whatever (antibodies, etc) was keeping the virus dormant is no longer working and the virus takes over (turning the dead person into a zombie).

The one inconsistency in the storyline that bugs me though is that in the beginning of WD, they said not to even get the blood on them. But later, they were always splattered with it and it had no affect on them. But then maybe that was just the characters lack of knowledge of how it developed, rather than a plot hole.

Bahahaha - I definitely spend too much time thinking about these shows

 

[LittleMissMagic]

But direct contact to the virus from a bite spreads the virus in the bloodstream and delivers it to the organs quicker. That is why in WD, Hershal survived when his leg was cut off, because they stopped the spread to the major organs. And maybe why Tyresse didn't survive because he was bit in the arm and it was closer to the major organs (and it took longer for them to get to him).

I think Tyrese died because he lost too much blood. He had already lost a lot of blood before Michonne and Rick came to amputate his arm. Of course, that amputation wasn't as immediate as Hershel's was, so maybe the virus had "spread" into his bloodstream and he would have died anyway.