Fat Acceptance...

[jrmasm]

Go back and read what I highlighted. You said " are we suggesting that fat people shouldn't be judged?" Clear now?

And that was a reply to why it is ok to judge smokers. I'm saying if it's ok to judge one group, it's ok to judge another group. Clear now?

I think if we all hung up our judgy pants and worried about ourselves, we'd all be a lot happier and healthier.

eta: I'm pretty sure I've said more than once on this thread that I DO NOT THINK IT'S OK TO JUDGE EITHER GROUP.

 

[Angelhalo]

You know what I hate about this thread? The OP posted his/her stuff & hasn't posted since.

Just wanted to stir up trouble most likely

 

[Ilovemylife]

These threads are always amusing. I'm mildly pooh-sized, as is nearly every female in my family going back to my great-great grandmother (that's the last picture I have). We have no history of heart disease, no diabetes, no high blood pressure issues, no cholesterol issues. In fact, my last cholesterol screening came back as one of the best my doctor has ever seen with anyone. We have a history of dying around 100 years old.

My heart rate is normal, by BP is normal, my thyroid is not normal, hence the weight issues. I have had nurses ask if I jog because my BP is similar to that of a regular runner (they only have to look at me and realize that there is no way I ever run anywhere).

However, several of my thin or "normal" friends have all sorts of health issues. One was on cholesterol meds and BP medication before she was 30, another was on osteoporosis drugs at 26 because her dieting sucked all the calcium out of her bones. Another can't bend over to tie her shoes and gets winded going up a filght of stairs.

Being thin doesn't equate to being healthy any more than being overweight equates to being unhealthy. Unforunately, there are too many brainwashed people who think that all thin people are healthier than all fat people, which is not the case at all.

 

[sdarwkcabemanmy]

Fat people have actually prompted me to lose weight and get into better shape.

I started watching shows like "Big Medicine" and "Fat Camp" and realized that if I don't do something, I could see myself ending up like that. I've lost around 40 lbs over the last two years and while I'm nowhere near where I"d like to be (around 140 lbs, which is still pretty heavy) I AM far more active than I used to be.

 

[Disney Doll]

What I SAID (& do not go putting words in my mouth) is that many (& again, not all) people's overweight condition is self-inflicted, and that many (& again, not all) overweight people maintain that state because they are unwilling to make the healthy lifestyle choices needed to change that condition.
QUOTE]

Well, you can remove "fat" out of your sentence and substitute many other lifestyle choices.

Smoking, drinking, drugging and unprotected sex come to mind immediately.

 

[Ilovemylife]

Fat people have actually prompted me to lose weight and get into better shape.

I started watching shows like "Big Medicine" and "Fat Camp" and realized that if I don't do something, I could see myself ending up like that. I've lost around 40 lbs over the last two years and while I'm nowhere near where I"d like to be (around 140 lbs, which is still pretty heavy) I AM far more active than I used to be.

Unless you are 4 feet tall, 140 lbs is *not* "pretty heavy".

 

[terri01p]

Fat people have actually prompted me to lose weight and get into better shape.

Glad I could be of service.

 

[Chicago526]

My BF is overweight, has been from the day I met her in high school. 15 years later, she's still overweight. And I'm not talking 20 or 30 pounds. More like 100+ overweight.

I will love her no mater what size she is, if she stays the same weight, gains, or loses she will always be my friend.

That said, I do hope that some days she loses the weight. Right now it's not causing her health problems but it will some day (joint problems in her ankles/knees, higher risk for diabeties, heart disease, stroke, etc.) and I don't want her to have to go through that, not when it's preventable. I've only ever once talked to her about her weight, that was because she brought it up and asked my opinion (wanted to know what I thought about gastric bypass surgery). I haven't said a word since. She knows she's fat (her words), and I know she gets (well meaning) grief from her mother and sister. I figure she doesn't need it from me.

Anyway, I guess I'm saying that while of course it's better to try to lose weight for one's health, there is no reason to make life difficult for those that are, by either choice or circumstance, overweight. They should have a positive self image and confidence, and they shouldn't have to have judgemental people look at them funny every time they have a piece of cake or go out to eat at a restaurant and order anything other than a salad. They should be able to find clothes to wear that are in style and don't cost a fortune (my friend has the hardest time finding bras that fit that don't cost as much as the GDP of some developing nations...).

 

[sdarwkcabemanmy]

I stand around 5 feet 5 inches on a good day. 140 lbs is still very heavy for someone of my height and bone structure. I've been told in the past that, ideally, I should weigh no more than 120-130 lbs. It's been a LONG time since I weighed that...since HS. I gained a lot of weight before I had DS, and never really lost the babyweight because I was working so much I didn't have the time/energy to work out.

I haven't had a lot of time over the summer to work out the way I normally would, but DS goes to the pool almost every single day so I try to fit in some sort of exercise when I'm down there with him. I'm really looking forward to him being in school again so I can resume my normal workout routine.

 

[Par8hed]

Unless you are 4 feet tall, 140 lbs is *not* "pretty heavy".

Actually, according to weight watchers the cutoff height for weighing in at a maximum of 140 is closer to 5' 3". But I got your point.

http://www.weightwatchers.com/health/asm/calc_healthyweight.aspx

 

[Chicago526]

Unless you are 4 feet tall, 140 lbs is *not* "pretty heavy".

It really depends. At 140 I'm smoking hot! In fact, if I weighed much less than 140, I'd be flirting with being under-weight. It not only depends on height but body structure. I'm 5'7" and 140-145 is my ideal weight. My boss is the same height but her ideal weight is around 125-130. The smallest I can be is a size 10 (I weighed 135 and still couldn't get an 8 over my hips!), the smallest my boss can be is a size 2 (she's usually around a 4 or 6 though, but she made it down to 2 for a while there). Same height, different body types.

 

[Ilovemylife]

Actually, according to weight watchers the cutoff height for weighing in at a maximum of 140 is closer to 5' 3". But I got your point.

http://www.weightwatchers.com/health/asm/calc_healthyweight.aspx

I'm also about 5'5 and honestly, I would probably look like I was sick if I weighed 140.

 

[sdarwkcabemanmy]

I would love to be a size 10...right now I'm hovering between a 12, 14 and 16 (depending on what kind of clothing it is and where I bought it from).

I have to admit though, there is a lot of pressure from MYSELF to be that thin. I've battled my weight since my teen years. I've always wanted to be superthin---like a size 0 even though I know it'll NEVER happen. I know part of it is also the shame at being as large as I am at the moment.

 

[DisMN]

T2 Diabetes, cardiovascular disease, pulmonary disease, muscle & joint issues, hypertension are all risks that are (while not exclusive to) associated with obesity to a higher degree. It is associated with a reduced lifespan & higher healthcare costs. That is undeniable.

I've read reports that say many "statistics" are fabricated in an attempt to prove some kind of point....by the anti-fat groups perhaps?

For what it's worth, I always chuckle when my slender, thin, skinny friends and family members tell me their latest woes about their diabetes, their bad knees, their hypertension, their angina and their high cholesterol.

Sorry, I no longer buy the "fat people have reduced lifespan and higher healthcare costs" argument. LOL

 

[Instinct27]

I've read reports that say many "statistics" are fabricated in an attempt to prove some kind of point....by the anti-fat groups perhaps?

For what it's worth, I always chuckle when my slender, thin, skinny friends and family members tell me their latest woes about their diabetes, their bad knees, their hypertension, their angina and their high cholesterol.

Sorry, I no longer buy the "fat people have reduced lifespan and higher healthcare costs" argument. LOL

To be honest even if ALL those studies had fabricated results... Is it worth the risk?

 

[lovemygoofy]

Ah I've accepted it. I was born short and round with all this curly hair and I"m going to die short and round with all this curly hair.

I've learned to accept that I'm loved and that I can love. I've accpeted that some are only going to take me as what they see and find me lacking and that's okay because I'll find them lacking and not worthy my time.

I've accepted that I'll never be able to run as fast or as long as my husband but I'm happy that I can run at all. I've accepted that I'll shop in "plus size" clothes forever but just think of myself as a regular normal woman.

I've accepted that people who do not know me are going to glare at me when I'm eating even though they have no idea that my health is fine with no problems of blood pressure, diabetes, hypertension or anything else that seems all overweight people are going to be afflicted with.

Most of all I've accepted that this is my life and I'm going to be happy and live and love and enjoy it and simply not give a damn what others think of me.

 

[Robinrs]

Ah I've accepted it. I was born short and round with all this curly hair and I"m going to die short and round with all this curly hair.

I've learned to accept that I'm loved and that I can love. I've accpeted that some are only going to take me as what they see and find me lacking and that's okay because I'll find them lacking and not worthy my time.

I've accepted that I'll never be able to run as fast or as long as my husband but I'm happy that I can run at all. I've accepted that I'll shop in "plus size" clothes forever but just think of myself as a regular normal woman.

I've accepted that people who do not know me are going to glare at me when I'm eating even though they have no idea that my health is fine with no problems of blood pressure, diabetes, hypertension or anything else that seems all overweight people are going to be afflicted with.

Most of all I've accepted that this is my life and I'm going to be happy and live and love and enjoy it and simply not give a damn what others think of me.

I love Tina.....

 

[DisMN]

To be honest even if ALL those studies had fabricated results... Is it worth the risk?

Yes. LOL

By the way, there's no need for people to pretend to be worried about someone elses health.......just admit it you don't like fat people!

 

[PrincessKsMom]

Ah I've accepted it. I was born short and round with all this curly hair and I"m going to die short and round with all this curly hair.

I've learned to accept that I'm loved and that I can love. I've accpeted that some are only going to take me as what they see and find me lacking and that's okay because I'll find them lacking and not worthy my time.

I've accepted that I'll never be able to run as fast or as long as my husband but I'm happy that I can run at all. I've accepted that I'll shop in "plus size" clothes forever but just think of myself as a regular normal woman.

I've accepted that people who do not know me are going to glare at me when I'm eating even though they have no idea that my health is fine with no problems of blood pressure, diabetes, hypertension or anything else that seems all overweight people are going to be afflicted with.

Most of all I've accepted that this is my life and I'm going to be happy and live and love and enjoy it and simply not give a damn what others think of me.

I agree completely. I'm fat, obese, whichever term you prefer, but I'm a good person. I come from a long line of drug addicts and alcoholics. I think if my worst attribute is being fat and not being a drug addict or alcoholic, then so be it. Everyone has their vices (drink, drugs, food, gambling, shopping, sex), but apparently some are more acceptable in our society than others. In the end, everyone has a right to live their lives as THEY choose, not how we choose for them. As for the comment about taking up more than one seat, take a look around and notice just how FEW people actually fit in any of those seats. Even the skinnies are over sometimes. And I'm sorry but I find people listening to their Ipods at the same decibel rate as a plane taking off, or talking on their phones as if they're the ONLY people in the world, way more irritating than sitting next to someone who's fat.

 

[sdarwkcabemanmy]

I'm glad you can accept it. SOme of us can't.