Fastpass Enforcement coming?

[mattsdragon]

i disagree, now people arent going to waste a FP window and get a ticket on tickets they wont be able to use. so not as many people are going to pull them

This post gave me a headache.

I no longer care about semantics.

I'm going to the bar.

 

[heyitsmejosh]

i dont understand why people are so upset about this?

 

[NLD]

No, we're talking about the "hoarders" - those that grab Fastpasses for the expressed intent of using them much later in the day. They would likely not pull them since they won't be usable that late. Or they still pull them and use them on time. Some percentage will do it either way.

See... as a previous "hoarder"... I think the bolded part (pull it anyway and use it on time) is what's going to happen.

Who in their right mind manages to get to FP distribution for Toy Story, knowing they will be in the park, and simply doesn't take it because they'd have to use it midday rather than night?

Granted, I've never gotten a FP for Toy Story, because I've never made it to DHS early enough. But I can confidently say that if I had gotten there early enough, we'd have scooped a FP up and used it, even if the return time was mid-afternoon rather than evening. Just because I might have preferred to ride TSM in the evening doesn't mean I'd pass on it altogether.

The only people who are going to pass on FP due to the return window are people who have conflicts with that time (ADR, or already plan to have left the park).

I'll go so far to say that in my family... if we got a TSM FP and the return time conflicted with an ADR... we'd cancel the ADR. And we'd be able to do it, because we wouldn't have booked a credit-card guarantee restaurant for that day.

(Look! I found one more reason not to book cc-guarantee / cancellation restaurants! No cc-guarantee restaurants on DHS day... just to make sure you can use your TSM FP in the window! Mom2rtk, are you reading?)

 

[NLD]

What I'm saying is that I'm not backing up any lines, I understand how it works, and I realize it is a zero sum game- but I am taking more FP than I usually would, so in that instance there would be less FP availability.

Yes yes yes.

I can easily imagine us in the same situation.

PARTICULARLY going at slow times of year... when you don't need FP except for the super-headliners.

Actually that will probably be our new strategy. ONLY use the tickets to pull FP for super-headliners. Because the other rides probably won't need it anyway... and if we just pull FP for the super-headliners when our window opens up, then we have multiple return times to work with.

 

[Wadecool]

i dont understand why people are so upset about this?

I don't understand why people are so upset about people being upset about this?

 

[mattsdragon]

I don't understand why people are so upset about people being upset about this?

I completely sympathize with people who are upset about people being upset about people being upset about this.

But I still think they're nuts.

 

[White_Sox_Fan]

This change will not have any effect on my acquisition of FP's. I will now use my FP's earlier in the day than I may have previously but in no way will it change the fact that I am going to collect as many FP's as I can.

If anything I can eat a few more desserts because of all the calories I am going to burn crossing the park. MMMMMM dessert!

 

[DeaverTex]

I just hope that some of y'all frequent flyers figure out how to max the new FP window enforcement without having to go into Normandy Invasion level planning mode or criss-crossing the parks at high speed. And I really, really hope that y'all do it before Mrs. Tex and need to start planning for this October. (Three day stay.)

We're not all about rides, and we're pretty laid back, and it's all well and good to hang loose with the "catch it next time" attitude, but next time is probably at least two more years, probably more. I don't want to have to go full commando just to have a Disney experience that doesn't amount to walking around and wishing we could actually ride something!

 

[White_Sox_Fan]

i dont understand why people are so upset about this?

I don't understand why people are so upset about people being upset about this?

I don't understand why there are more people upset about people using late fastpasses than there are people upset about losing the ability to use late fastpasses as this has no effect on the former whatsoever.

 

[nytimez]

i dont understand why people are so upset about this?

I don't understand why people are so upset about people being upset about this?

I completely sympathize with people who are upset about people being upset about people being upset about this.

But I still think they're nuts.

I don't understand why there are more people upset about people using late fastpasses than there are people upset about losing the ability to use late fastpasses as this has no effect on the former whatsoever.

It's upsetting to me that so many people are upset by the people upset by the upset people who were upset by the late use of fastpasses.

 

[mattsdragon]

It's upsetting to me that so many people are upset by the people upset by the upset people who were upset by the late use of fastpasses.

I just upset my drink.

 

[Mister Skellington]

This post gave me a headache.

I no longer care about semantics.

I'm going to the bar.

LMAO...WAIT UP!!!

This change will not have any effect on my acquisition of FP's. I will now use my FP's earlier in the day than I may have previously but in no way will it change the fact that I am going to collect as many FP's as I can.

If anything I can eat a few more desserts because of all the calories I am going to burn crossing the park. MMMMMM dessert!

Me too, once a commando always a commando.

 

[Tomh]

Does this mean that the fast passes I collected LAST summer won't be good when we go back THIS summer

I was really looking forward to taking full advantage of that late return policy

 

[KellyNY]

Usually at Epcot the only FP I am interested in is Soarin', if I get there at RD, I'll go get my FP, walk over to TT, and then to M:S, no additional FP needed. Since won't need any additional FP, so I'll be free to grab another at Soarin' if I end up missing my early morning window.

What I'm saying is that I'm not backing up any lines, I understand how it works, and I realize it is a zero sum game- but I am taking more FP than I usually would, so in that instance there would be less FP availability.

I initially was responding to the individual who thought that this new plan would free up tons of FPs, and that they would be easier to get, but I think that this will just decrease the availability of FP even more.

Total number of riders for a day did not change but rate of stand by/FP for that particular hour did when you showed up at the wrong time, so you backing up line. Others already showed that you and your family are those extra people who will go infront of stand by line besides those who came on time and therefore line will move slower.

I understand what you saying about taking extra FP and you can technically keep doing that wasting again your time but will you actually do it in lets say MK, most likely not. You would not just waste FP knowing that another one will be available only in 2 hours and this is exact thought many will have and therefore will not grab FPs just because and therefore it will free some FP.

 

[disfan07]

we've never used a fastpass past the posted time. We look at the time and see if it works for us. If we miss the time, we miss it and oh well, we go onto something else. I personally don't understand the issue at all.

We are commando in the fact that we do usually stay in the park all day, but other then that, we don't plan anything besides a couple of ADRs. But my vacation also doesn't get ruined by not getting on a certain ride or by not eating at a certain restaurant, etc. So maybe its just the way we travel....

Things like this are just so far from being an issue for us....

 

[PirateD]

The following is the official internal announcement:


Note that it says nothing about a five minute or fifteen minute grace period.

The best thing about this announcement is the acknowledgement by Disney that Fastpass is an important service for all guests to enjoy the rides. This leads me to believe that Fastpass will continue to be a service available to all of us and not just resort guests or those who pay an additional fee. I will be happy if the only change made is enforcement of the return time and an addition of X-pass in the future.

 

[magicbob]

sure it does, i use the fast passes within my time frame i always have. if they stop allowing people to hoard fast passes they wont run out as fast

Probably not true. The FPs will still run out as always, but a lot of them will just get wasted when people miss their window for some reason. Those who somehow think this will improve things for them because they don't use FPs late are either being naive or vindictive. This policy change will not improve the line situation for you. But if it makes some of you feel better knowing others are now "put in their place" then happy schadenfreude to you.

 

[tiki23]

Probably not true. The FPs will still run out as always, but a lot of them will just get wasted when people miss their window for some reason. Those who somehow think this will improve things for them because they don't use FPs late are either being naive or vindictive. This policy change will not improve the line situation for you. But if it makes some of you feel better knowing others are now "put in their place" then happy schadenfreude to you.

^ I think this about sums it up.^

We used our FP's late because it was Disney policy to let us do so, and we had a lot of fun doing it. We'll still pull FP's, we'll still have fun, but now we'll probably miss out on some FP rides because we'll be watching Pirate Tutorial or eating ice cream or something else fun and won't want to quit doing said fun so we won't be 10 minutes late for our FP.

 

[maxiesmom]

Probably not true. The FPs will still run out as always, but a lot of them will just get wasted when people miss their window for some reason. Those who somehow think this will improve things for them because they don't use FPs late are either being naive or vindictive. This policy change will not improve the line situation for you. But if it makes some of you feel better knowing others are now "put in their place" then happy schadenfreude to you.

If people want to waste their FastPass it will have a positive affect on those in line. Fewer people in the FP line mean the people in boththe standby line and the FP line will get on quicker.

If you take a FP and realize you can't make the window you are still free to give it to another park-goer who can.

 

[WillAustin]

If people want to waste their FastPass it will have a positive affect on those in line. Fewer people in the FP line mean the people in both the standby line and the FP line will get on quicker.

I'm pretty sure the implementation of the XPass will take care of that and make sure everything slows back down.