…which I am (9/4 & 9/11). Let’s not make this more confusing (or interesting) than it already is…For sure it could be more confusing for the staff, but for the customers, it should be fine (unless you are on a b2b).

…which I am (9/4 & 9/11). Let’s not make this more confusing (or interesting) than it already is…For sure it could be more confusing for the staff, but for the customers, it should be fine (unless you are on a b2b).
Can I say I love that you used “pedantic” on a cruise message board!HA.. After seeing your response, I reread my post as being a pedantic jerk. That was not my intent. I am on the edge of my seat waiting for them to follow the Dream announcement with some Fantasy news!
That’s great except for all of the airfare and WDW tickets/resort reservations that are already made. So…not so great.I talked with my DW about this yesterday. Since the start I have basically said my belief was Disney would not require vaccines but if a port requires it then they would pass along that requirement.
The benefit Disney has is they could offer guests on both East and West cruises the option of moving 1 week in either direction to avoid certain protocols. They could put a vaccination requirement on East for 12+ and keep more to the Dream policies for the West.
If you would prefer to be on the other directional cruise you can swap to the other cruise to the category for $0.
No clue what they will do but the port stops has me interested in what they unveil (and hopefully we keep our 3 sea days which is why I like East over West).
That’s great except for all of the airfare and WDW tickets/resort reservations that are already made. So…not so great.
What is interesting is the Fantasy test cruises are a 3 night Nassau/Castaway Cay and a 4 night Western Caribbean to Cozumel on Aug 26/29, so they aren't doing a 7 day and are not going on an Eastern route.I’ll wager after the cast get back from their test cruises
I think the 7 days present much more challenges both port wise and guest wise/testing etc plus it seems those cruises are significantly fuller than the Dreams (& for better or worse a different clientele that may or not be as flexible to adjustments as Dream cruisers)
so we shall see-
Test cruises do not need to be the same length as their revenue cruises, nor go to the same ports. The only requirement is that they are a minimum of 2 nights, and that they go to every US port the ship docks at. The official test cruise can be a 2-night to the Bahamas and they can still do 7-night E/W Caribbean sailings.What is interesting is the Fantasy test cruises are a 3 night Nassau/Castaway Cay and a 4 night Western Caribbean to Cozumel on Aug 26/29, so they aren't doing a 7 day and are not going on an Eastern route.
Test cruises do not need to be the same length as their revenue cruises, nor go to the same ports. The only requirement is that they are a minimum of 2 nights, and that they go to every US port the ship docks at. The official test cruise can be a 2-night to the Bahamas and they can still do 7-night E/W Caribbean sailings.
I talked with my DW about this yesterday. Since the start I have basically said my belief was Disney would not require vaccines but if a port requires it then they would pass along that requirement.
The benefit Disney has is they could offer guests on both East and West cruises the option of moving 1 week in either direction to avoid certain protocols. They could put a vaccination requirement on East for 12+ and keep more to the Dream policies for the West.
If you would prefer to be on the other directional cruise you can swap to the other cruise to the category for $0.
No clue what they will do but the port stops has me interested in what they unveil (and hopefully we keep our 3 sea days which is why I like East over West).
I noticed Puerto Rico reported that unvaccinated passengers are not allowed off the ship. Often Puerto Rico is an alternate port on the eastern Caribbean cruise.
Is that a mistype at the end? My understanding is that most ports want vaccinated guests, not unvaccinated.Plus 3/4 days are not port intensive so doing sea day+ Castaway days are fine but 7 days are port intensive and probably not able to get away with 3 castaway days 3 days at sea etc and it doesn’t seem (for good reason!) Ports want unvaccinated guests..
What do you think a typical timeline is for the first ruling on this?NCL had their hearing today, and it will have implications for the Fantasy. The judge specifically asked FLs lawyer if Royal requiring vaccines for cruises to US Virgin Islands violated the law, and the answer was yes.
We may not see DCL officially give policies on Fantasy cruises until the judge rules on that case so they know if they can comply with USVI rules, or remove St. Thomas from the itinerary.
The judge did indicate she would rule very soon and I am not a lawyer but in reading the tea leaves of the way the hearing went, she seems to be leaning towards granting the injunction. But that is just my personal conjecture.What do you think a typical timeline is for the first ruling on this?
Sorry for the dumb question, but which way is this case set up(what does an injunction mean)? (I keep losing track of who is asking for what.)The judge did indicate she would rule very soon and I am not a lawyer but in reading the tea leaves of the way the hearing went, she seems to be leaning towards granting the injunction. But that is just my personal conjecture.
I'm expecting we will see a ruling within the next few days. Maybe middle of next week?