And this is what my wife and I are finding so frustrating while preparing for our first Trip to DL the first week of May. There is almost no information available other than rumors about anything, and unfortunately we had to commit to the trip months ago.
Will Fantasmic be happening?
Will POTC premier be happening?
How much will we pay for our hotel (will there be an AP rate)?
We have been to WDW quite a few times and by now there would be nothing hanging over our heads and we could be going on with our lives waiting for the trip. It is great that DL caters to Local visitors but when you are flying from the East Coast to visit it is more than a little frustrating
We have friends who visit WDW and after our discussions have told us they will never visit DL becasue the lack of information would cause them to melt down becasue they are planners. Thankfully we are more go with the flow but we definitely would have picked a different time to go if we had more information.
Thanks for listening to my ranting
Scott
Scott, I think some WDW vets make a good thing into a bad thing. And since they are so accustomed to WDW's ways they fail to see some of WDW's weaknesses in this area.
For example, we are leaving for WDW on Friday.
Here is my experience:
1. Park hours and entertainment have been posted for six months. Great, we can make ADR's and plan which parks to do on which days.
Then starting a few weeks ago park hours started to change and entertainment started to change. Everything was in a good direction - longer hours and more Fantasmic shows - but it did mess me up because I had made at least one ADR based on an early closing of DHS and then they extended the hours which now conflicted with my ADR time.
So WDW is not perfect in this area either.
2. WDW only posts major entertainment far in advance like Wishes, Fantasmic and Mickey's Jungle parade. But they do not publish secondary entertainment until Sunday. So here we are planning to visit DHS in six days (this Sunday) and I will not know when LMA is scheduled until the day I arrive. How am I supposed to plan for our Sci-Fi Dine-In ADR?
Well, one answer of course is to just plan Sci-Fi early or late and then go to the next most convenient LMA show. However, this philosophy breaks down as it gets closer to summer and summer heat - because LMA is miserable on a hot Florida afternoon.
DLR on the other hand publishes all major and minor entertainment - even Dapper Dans and Push the Trash Can - usually six weeks in advance.
So yes DLR is later in publishing hours and major entertainment than WDW, but it is massively better at publishing secondary entertainment far in enough in advance that you can actually do something with it - and make your dining plans - and have reservation slots open pretty much at any time of your convenience.
3. It is harder to do last minute trips to WDW. Frankly my family resists trip plans to almost anywhere that is more than four months in advance. We just decided in early February to go to Florida for Spring Break because we were toying with the idea of going to Central America.
Guess what? By Feb 1 many of the good ADR's places and times are taken. I knew that about WDW but it was still frustrating. Fortunately they have taken the ADR thing online and I could check to see if anything opened. And sure enough two days ago a dinner ADR at Le Cellier opened. I grabbed it. But it still required me checking online at least 10 times to see if someone cancelled before I found a cancellation.
I think rather than it being a
drawback to visiting DLR that it is difficult to plan far in advance, it actually is an underappreciated
benefit. No need to be on the phone 6 months
to the day before your trip to get ADR's and Hoop-Dee-Doo, etc., and then also reviewing all the park hours and EMH's and entertainment prior to making the ADRs. Thank Heaven they have put this online! It used to be a nightmare of complexity calling on phones and keeping track of every confirmation number!
Wow, how cool is it that you can make a decision
a month ahead of time to visit DLR (even a week ahead of time often - during high season no less!) and still get into
any restaurant you want - at a convenient time - and
any show you want - and know
all the secondary entertainment schedules - and
not have to choose which park on which day? To me WDW vets get so frustrated by DLR being different in this way from WDW that they do not appreciate how
advantageous this is.
As for your comment about "no information except rumors about anything" I have to believe you are exaggerating for effect.
First off you can check reliable long range refurb websites like
MiceAge and
MousePlanet for this kind of info. And they are right 90%+ of the time.
There are even longer range DLR project threads on MiceChat that I cannot find anything like for WDW:
Disney California Adventure Project Tracker XI
Disneyland Resort Project Tracker II
We have May/June 2011 grad night information published since
last October: "The Scoop on Grad Nights at DLR in May and June" -
www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2298400
We have warnings posted regularly and in sticky threads about the risks of going in off-season:
"HydroGuy's High Season/Off Season Tradeoff Rule"
www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1199852
"What You Should Know About Off-Season at DLR"
www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=18462889
"Choosing When To Visit DLR: Summary of High and Low Season and When Each Happens "
www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=36509602
We have special AP crowd issues that do not exist at WDW explained in places like this:
"Understanding AP Blockouts and Impact on Crowds"
www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2365983
DLR is a more dynamic place than WDW. A lot more new stuff is happening. It has really cool things like POTC 4 movie premieres which unfortunately do disrupt regular park visitors. Heck, John Depp/Jack Sparrow will be walking down Main Street DL on May 7!
You do not get that at WDW except for maybe things like Star Wars Weekends. But all this dynamic stuff comes at a price - it is hard for Disney to get their story together far in advance at DLR.
Anyone who wants to visit DLR and not have to risk knowing the hours and entertainment has a very easy solution - go June 15 to August 20 (and have
much more tolerable summer weather than WDW) or over Thanksgiving or Christmas. DLR is absolutely regular on this based on past years:
DL hours 8AM-Midnight
DCA hours - 10AM-10PM or 11PM.
All entertainment is maxed out. And maxed out
every day - unlike WDW and their frustrating Fantasmic show which does not seem to show every night which means I will
miss it next week.
I hope that helps. I think really you are not seeing the forest for the trees. If you had DLR information six months in advance like WDW there is not much you could do with it from a planning point of view.
Thanks for listening to
my rant.
