Facebook Questions.

[DawnCt1]

I do not visit Facebook very much. Not for any particular reason except I don't have that much interest in it. I have a Facebook account because others have asked me to see their Facebook page, etc. Both of my parents have passed away and my father was from a small family with several cousins and second cousins. We saw his family several times a year when I was a child. I still talk to my second and third cousins on the phone every couple of years to re connect, although I haven't been able to find my first cousin. Last night I was talking to a second cousin whom I hadn't seen in 15 years. She told me that my high school graduation picture was posted on Facebook. That's fine. I don't care but I wanted to see it and the other family pictures. She gave me that name of a cousins grand daughter who had posted it. I couldn't get into her Facebook because it was locked. I made my second cousin my "friend" and then I was able to access the other Facebook account through my second cousin's page. This tells me that those people who think that their privacy settings on Facebook are secure, aren't exactly "secure". It is probably how the comments made my the Windsor Locks, Ct. School Superintendent, who was sure he had the ultimate privacy settings, were accessed and published by the Hartford Courant. Am I right on this? Can anyone find a way to drill down past the "privacy settings"?

 

[msjprincess]

When you post pictures you have the option of making it so Everyone can see them, Just Friends, Friends of Friends or Customize which lets you hide the pictures from specific people.

ETA
same thing with your wall, it can be set so Friends of Friends can see it.

 

[LisaR]

I believe you are right. Let's say you and I are FB friends but you are not friends with my DD.

My DD posts a bunch of pictures but because her account is private, you can not see them.

Because I am "friends" with DD on FB, I comment on a handful of her pictures. Since you are friends with me, you will now be able to see the pictures that I have commented on.

Just another reason I don't like FB. To each their own, though.

 

[msjprincess]

I believe you are right. Let's say you and I are FB friends but you are not friends with my DD.

My DD posts a bunch of pictures but because her account is private, you can not see them.

Because I am "friends" with DD on FB, I comment on a handful of her pictures. Since you are friends with me, you will now be able to see the pictures that I have commented on.

Just another reason I don't like FB. To each their own, though.

That's not right. Like I said that is only the case if the person has their settings set to Friends of Friends.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

Sounds like your cousin's granddaughter has it set up so "friends of friends" can see her info.

 

[LuvOrlando]

I don't trust FB security at all. They keep making updates which leave loopholes open that can be easily exploited until the fix gets publicized and I don't for a second, think this is accidental. My FB is very strictly protected and I am very cautious with what I post there, strictly rainbows and butterflies. Still, I like the fact It allows me to keep connected to so many people I would otherwise have very little reason to connect with so I stay on it. I think anything personal should be reserved for private e-mail alone because the law does protect privacy there but not really anywhere else, if you are on a private site assume snooping is going on and privacy will be breeched. I suspect the only thing that protects most of us from having our lives splashed all over the Internet is people's fear of being sued

Did you hear about the scandal Google is dealing with where one of their 'it' guys was stalking a bunch of minors breaking through boundaries and laws to do it, quite a mess.

 

[LisaR]

That's not right. Like I said that is only the case if the person has their settings set to Friends of Friends.

Here is a recent example. My DD is friends with a mom of one of her friends. The mom is friends with her niece. The niece is set up as friends only. She is really picky about her FB and keeps her privacy settings tight.

The niece went to a concert and had her picture taken with the band. It is a band DD loves. The mom wanted my DD to see the picture so she commented on the picture and DD was able to go to the mom's account and view the picture.

The mom insists that the niece is set up as friends only. Maybe there are glitches in the system? This isn't the only example we have had.

 

[msjprincess]

Here is a recent example. My DD is friends with a mom of one of her friends. The mom is friends with her niece. The niece is set up as friends only. She is really picky about her FB and keeps her privacy settings tight.

The niece went to a concert and had her picture taken with the band. It is a band DD loves. The mom wanted my DD to see the picture so she commented on the picture and DD was able to go to the mom's account and view the picture.

The mom insists that the niece is set up as friends only. Maybe there are glitches in the system? This isn't the only example we have had.

A lot of people don't realize that they have to check the settings on all of their photo albums. I know people who assume because they set their profile as on Friends that it includes photos. Each photo album has a separate setting. I know that it used to default to Friends of Friends, but I don't think that's the case anymore.

 

[DawnCt1]

In the case of the Superintendent in Windsor Locks, Ct who just lost his job over a Facebook posting and who absolutely insists that he had his page at the highest privacy setting; how would such a 'leak' be explained? Could someone he trusted "cut and paste" his comments to his more open page because he thought they were amusing and wanted to share them? My opinion is, if more than one person "knows" something, it isn't a secret.

 

[LisaR]

A lot of people don't realize that they have to check the settings on all of their photo albums. I know people who assume because they set their profile as on Friends that it includes photos. Each photo album has a separate setting. I know that it used to default to Friends of Friends, but I don't think that's the case anymore.

Here is another example involving DD.
DD had a boyfriend a few months ago. He walked into the room and his mom was looking at DD's FB pictures. DD and the mom are not friends. The BF asked his mom how she was looking at the pictures. The mom is friends with someone my DD is also friends with. That girl commented on a bunch of DD's pictures and those were the pictures the mom was viewing.

My explanation is that the mom was lying and she had her son's password and that is how she was viewing them. The BF confronted the mom and she insisted that she didn't.

I did some research and that is when I discovered what you wrote about the photo albums also needing to be set to friends only. I figured that must have been the problem but when I checked, all of DD's albums were already set to friends only.

Again, there may be a reasonable explanation but there is also a possibility that there are glitches in the privacy settings of FB.

 

[design_mom]

I am FB friends with my SIL and she comments on a lot of photos on FB. If she comments on a mutual friend's photo, it will show up in my newsfeed. If she comments on someone else's photo, it might say "Your friend SIL commented on XXX's photo" but it won't show me the photo.

HOWEVER, if there's a photo that my SIL wants to show someone, she will "tag" herself in that photo (whether she's actually in it or not). And then it will show up on her page, too, as "SIL appears in this photo." I believe the original photo owner could delete the tag and sever the link, but that would be an extra step.

 

[bicker]

Facebooks private messages are pretty secure. Message security on public postings (such as status updates, shared links and photos, etc.), however, is less secure, and less consistently secure. Remember, these are, ostensibly, public messages. While there are ways to limit who sees them, they're still public messages.

 

[shortbun]

No facebook here, nope, no way. Facebook is for people who do not care about boundaries and I do in a big way. My brother was stalked by the old boyfriend of a girl he had friended on facebook. The guy was a psycho and found my brother because he had friended this woman. My advice is to stay away from Facebook and anything like it if you do not want things about you posted or people to contact you from just about anywhere.

 

[bicker]

Facebook is for people who do not care about boundaries

That's simply not true. Indeed, practically nothing is as absolute as that, and indeed Facebook is for people who do care about boundaries, but perhaps aren't as concerned about them in as an extreme a way as other people are, acknowledge more value in what they gain over what they compromise, and finally accept personal responsibility for treating the tool as you would any tool, such as a hammer, protecting themselves responsibly rather than relying on the hammer to protect them.

 

[RadioNate]

Here is a recent example. My DD is friends with a mom of one of her friends. The mom is friends with her niece. The niece is set up as friends only. She is really picky about her FB and keeps her privacy settings tight.

The niece went to a concert and had her picture taken with the band. It is a band DD loves. The mom wanted my DD to see the picture so she commented on the picture and DD was able to go to the mom's account and view the picture.

The mom insists that the niece is set up as friends only. Maybe there are glitches in the system? This isn't the only example we have had.

Her wall and profile might be "Friends Only" but that particular photo album was set to "friends of friends" or something other than "friends only."

Photo albums have their own privacy settings that must be set individually. They don't default to the profile privacy settings.

On the privacy settings page if you click "customize settings" there will be an option to edit album privacy. That is where you need to access each photo album individually to set it's privacy settings.

 

[Angelhalo]

That's simply not true. Indeed, practically nothing is as absolute as that, and indeed Facebook is for people who do care about boundaries, but perhaps aren't as concerned about them in as an extreme a way as other people are, acknowledge more value in what they gain over what they compromise, and finally accept personal responsibility for treating the tool as you would any tool, such as a hammer, protecting themselves responsibly rather than relying on the hammer to protect them.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

DS and I both have FB, and ALL of our settings are "Friends Only". If I tag DS in my photos, his friends can not see the photos. I know this for sure because I had one of my friends UNfriend me and friend DS so we could determine exactly what was and was not visible. If his friends tag him in photos, I can not see the photos IF those kids have their stuff set to "Friends Only".

I was TRYING to figure out if I could tag DS in photos and have ONLY those pics visible to his friends without them being able to see my whole album. If that IS possible, I can't figure out how to do it. Now, having said that, the other day a cousin I am NOT FB friends with posted pics of my sisters. I am FB friends with my sisters, and I could see them in the tagged photos, but I could not see the whole album. I am not sure if it won't work with DS because he is under 18 or what.

What I have NOT tried is having DS tag HIMSELF in my photos. I don't know if that would make the pics visible to his friends or not, seeing how my albums are all locked on "Friends Only".

It's funny (ironic funny, not funny funny). I have clicked to see the profiles of some of DS's friends. Some of them are kids I know, and some of them are kids I don't know and am trying to sort out if I trust them. Anyway, some of them have their stuff locked up tighter than a drum - I can see their name and not much else! Others say "This Girl only shares her info with people she knows..." yet I can see EVERYTHING on her entire profile - wall, info, pics, you name it. Now, she IS friends with DS so it's possible she has it set to Friends of Friends. But still...do you really want EVERYONE your friends are friends with to be able to see EVERYTHING in your profile?

 

[bicker]

DS and I both have FB, and ALL of our settings are "Friends Only".

Even that is way too trusting, imho. Are you really sure all your Facebook friends can be trusted, not only with regard to their discretion and judgment, but with regard to their conscientiousness and technical know-how regarding the online experience and responsible stewardship of information you share with them, in that regard? Some of my Facebook friends are young nephews and children of friends. I don't place into their hands the ability to share anything that I don't want a young child to be in a position to share.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Even that is way too trusting, imho. Are you really sure all your Facebook friends can be trusted, not only with regard to their discretion and judgment, but with regard to their conscientiousness and technical know-how regarding the online experience and responsible stewardship of information you share with them, in that regard? Some of my Facebook friends are young nephews and children of friends. I don't place into their hands the ability to share anything that I don't want a young child to be in a position to share.

My friends are an entirely separate group from DS's friends. We don't share an account. DS doesn't have access to my FB account, other than being able to see what is posted on my Wall.

 

[diznygirl]

No facebook here, nope, no way. Facebook is for people who do not care about boundaries and I do in a big way. My brother was stalked by the old boyfriend of a girl he had friended on facebook. The guy was a psycho and found my brother because he had friended this woman. My advice is to stay away from Facebook and anything like it if you do not want things about you posted or people to contact you from just about anywhere.

Facebook is not the only way to get found. I stayed away as well to avoid a crazy person, but that person found us anyway. So, the only truly safe thing to do is not work, stay home, lock your doors, and pay cash for everything.