Extra Magic Hours Still Exist

[Sammie]

Please clarify for me - You pay $149 for extra park time, but is that over and above your daily park ticket (similar to requiring a park ticket as well as tickets to Mickey's Christmas Party)?? Or can anyone just pay the $149 to come into the park for those three hours.

Morning EMH is something we do at least once for each park during our stay (don't usually do the night-time EMH). I will be sad if they stop it.

Anyone can pay for the Disney After Hours. And yes this is an after the regular park hour event. You could do it instead of using another ticket.

There is absolutely no indication this is to take the place of EMH and in fact Disney has said absolutely not. Even before they offered this, everything Disney is subject to change. Some simply love the Chicken Little response to everything.

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...of-nighttime-fun-at-walt-disney-world-resort/

How many of you that are convinced that this is a precursor to doing away with EMH have actually contacted Disney to voice your concern. Believe me; stating it here is not going to influence them at all.

 

[mesaboy2]

Please clarify for me - You pay $149 for extra park time, but is that over and above your daily park ticket (similar to requiring a park ticket as well as tickets to Mickey's Christmas Party)?? Or can anyone just pay the $149 to come into the park for those three hours.

Morning EMH is something we do at least once for each park during our stay (don't usually do the night-time EMH). I will be sad if they stop it.

It is not over and above.

And, you do not need a regular park ticket to attend the parties. The party ticket alone will suffice.

 

[Slapshot1188]

There is absolutely no indication this is to take the place of EMH and in fact Disney has said absolutely not. Even before they offered this, everything Disney is subject to change. Some simply love the Chicken Little response to everything.

Please read the thread with the actual facts prior to calling folks "Chicken Little":

Did you read my post above ?

2014 - 14 Morning MK EMH's
2015 - 13 Morning MK EMH's
2016 - 5 Morning MK EMH's ... but also a paid event for access in the morning in MK.

Are you sure they aren't going anywhere ?

 

[Love Tink]

There is absolutely no indication this is to take the place of EMH and in fact Disney has said absolutely not. Even before they offered this, everything Disney is subject to change. Some simply love the Chicken Little response to everything.

Is this intentionally, or unintentionally, funny?

 

[DoingDisney]

Is this intentionally, or unintentionally, funny?

Bahaahahaha, great analysis ...honestly, that was fantastic

 

[Sammie]

I fully understand they are not eliminating EMH for April or May of 2016, but that statement is hardly a commitment to offer free emh in 2017 and beyond.

There was never a 100% guarantee that EMH would continue forever. Nothing at Disney is. However there is nothing in this to me that warrants concern for EMH. I don't see this as a game changer. I personally think ending it would seriously affect their bookings at Disney resorts.

Is this intentionally, or unintentionally, funny?

I guess with me when Disney says this is not replacing EMH, that it means the present. As to what happens, a month from now or 6 months, who knows.

 

[Sammie]

Please read the thread with the actual facts prior to calling folks "Chicken Little":

So they have changed over the years. Still to me that does not warrant the reaction seen on here by many that it means the end of EMH and all that is good about Disney. So yes I will stick with my Chicken Little comparison and your facts change none of that.

I have been going for so long, many things have changed and honestly it really affected us none. We simply adapt and still have a fabulous time.

 

[DoingDisney]

So they have changed over the years. Still to me that does not warrant the reaction seen on here by many that it means the end of EMH and all that is good about Disney. So yes I will stick with my Chicken Little comparison and your facts change none of that.

I have been going for so long, many things have changed and honestly it really affected us none. We simply adapt and still have a fabulous time.

But see, the latter is not the question, the former is. Can you deny that EMH's have been reduced ? Can you deny that where EMH's have been reduced there has been a paid, exclusive, event that offers similar access that Morning EMH's used to offer at MK ... comparing April to April, 2014, 2015, and 2016 ? I don't think you can, with any honesty anyway. And that is the point, in relation to the OP. Its pretty clear that at least for the next month (and thus extrapolated for other peak season points) Disney is replacing some, the majority ?, of EMH's with a paid access event.

For now I still plan on going, and I plan on having a fantastic time, to be fair we have just bought DVC, and so the cost per trip is going way down, and we are more looking forward to resort time over the next few trips. But I wouldn't deny what appears to be the current move and the future trend.

 

[Sammie]

But see, the latter is not the question, the former is. Can you deny that EMH's have been reduced ? Can you deny that where EMH's have been reduced there has been a paid, exclusive, event that offers similar access that Morning EMH's used to offer at MK ... comparing April to April, 2014, 2015, and 2016 ? I don't think you can, with any honesty anyway. And that is the point, in relation to the OP. Its pretty clear that at least for the next month (and thus extrapolated for other peak season points) Disney is replacing some, the majority ?, of EMH's with a paid access event.

For now I still plan on going, and I plan on having a fantastic time, to be fair we have just bought DVC, and so the cost per trip is going way down, and we are more looking forward to resort time over the next few trips. But I wouldn't deny what appears to be the current move and the future trend.

What paid event allows early access in the mornings? I must have missed an event.

I personally think the number of EMHs being reduced is more about the fact they were not being utilized.

Changes to me mean nothing as far as EMH going away. Until there are absolutely no EMH at any Disney park, morning or evening, then to me it is a moot point.

Could they end them completely, of course they could. Could they just as easily, keep them. Yes.

 

[Lucius Best]

What paid event allows early access in the mornings? I must have missed an event.

Yes, there is a new paid morning event supposedly coming, it is on the front page of this forum. And there are fewer scheduled morning EMH days at MK this April. Some people are suggesting that those two decisions by Disney might be related.
http://www.disboards.com/threads/disney-early-morning-magic-details-prices.3495177/

I personally think the number of EMHs being reduced is more about the fact they were not being utilized.

That is an interesting opinion. Not sure that I agree. If you are correct, and it is true that Disney guests don't use EMH any more, that would mean that Disney is making a serious mistake trying to charge people $70 to get into Fantasyland an hour early to ride three rides and eat some waffles, and an even bigger mistake trying to charge $150 for Extra Expensive Magic Hour in the evening. If the existing free EMH is not being utilized, why does Disney think it can charge guests hundreds of dollars for a similar experience?

Changes to me mean nothing as far as EMH going away. Until there are absolutely no EMH at any Disney park, morning or evening, then to me it is a moot point.

Well said.

 

[Nancyg56]

What paid event allows early access in the mornings? I must have missed an event.

I personally think the number of EMHs being reduced is more about the fact they were not being utilized.

Changes to me mean nothing as far as EMH going away. Until there are absolutely no EMH at any Disney park, morning or evening, then to me it is a moot point.

Could they end them completely, of course they could. Could they just as easily, keep them. Yes.

The paid event is this new Early Morning Magic. And it does seem to impact the number of EMH offered in the Magic Kingdom. I do not think that Disney will take them all away, but I do think they are being reduced, and I do think we, as guests, have played a huge part in this new turn.

I have no idea how successful the event will be, especially since in order for guests to pay for it, they need to have decent access to these attractions. If the event is oversold even once or twice, the word will spread and the entire idea will backfire. There are only 3 attractions that are open and a relatively small restaurant that is being utilized to feed people in a short span of time. In my opinion, Disney has just this test period to get it right, and if they do not...it will go the way of the Epcot after hours thing they tried to sell. But in this case, there will be damage done because already there are a lot of guests who feel disenfranchised, and who may choose to book offsite rather than onsite. I think that while Disney can lose these guests today, tomorow may be a different story. A few years ago, my DD gave me a groupon to the shop that I always have gotten my hair done. WHen I called to book my appointment, my hairdresser did not take the groupon, but there were three others who did, so I booked with one of them. I never looked back! Since then, my business goes to the one who took the groupon, and he is fabulous!!! THe one who did my hair is always on FB and is not booked as much as she was before. You see, I (and a lot of other customers) would never change stylists without a reason, but once we did....well it turns out the grass was greener in the othe chair. I wonder if folks who never woudl choose an offsite hotel but felt forced to do so may wind up liking the choice?

 

[Slapshot1188]

What paid event allows early access in the mornings? I must have missed an event.

I personally think the number of EMHs being reduced is more about the fact they were not being utilized.

So you call people who actually look at the facts (reduced EMH offerings and added pay for attendance parties) Chicken Little, but are not even aware of the Early Morning Magic paid event which is discussed relentlessly in multiple threads on here. You then somehow think EMHs are "not being utilized" and that is why Disney is reducing them? Park attendance is at ALL TIME HIGHS. Disney is raising rates and going to surge pricing because they claim they have a capacity problem. They then REDUCE capacity. Priceless. No, this is not "Chicken Little" but saying so is kind of like the:

 

[mom2rtk]

The paid event is this new Early Morning Magic. And it does seem to impact the number of EMH offered in the Magic Kingdom. I do not think that Disney will take them all away, but I do think they are being reduced, and I do think we, as guests, have played a huge part in this new turn.

I have no idea how successful the event will be, especially since in order for guests to pay for it, they need to have decent access to these attractions. If the event is oversold even once or twice, the word will spread and the entire idea will backfire. There are only 3 attractions that are open and a relatively small restaurant that is being utilized to feed people in a short span of time. In my opinion, Disney has just this test period to get it right, and if they do not...it will go the way of the Epcot after hours thing they tried to sell. But in this case, there will be damage done because already there are a lot of guests who feel disenfranchised, and who may choose to book offsite rather than onsite. I think that while Disney can lose these guests today, tomorow may be a different story. A few years ago, my DD gave me a groupon to the shop that I always have gotten my hair done. WHen I called to book my appointment, my hairdresser did not take the groupon, but there were three others who did, so I booked with one of them. I never looked back! Since then, my business goes to the one who took the groupon, and he is fabulous!!! THe one who did my hair is always on FB and is not booked as much as she was before. You see, I (and a lot of other customers) would never change stylists without a reason, but once we did....well it turns out the grass was greener in the othe chair. I wonder if folks who never woudl choose an offsite hotel but felt forced to do so may wind up liking the choice?

You are absolutely right.

Think back to that Villains Unleashed debacle. I think a lot of the reason people won't believe the low capacity numbers for this is because of what they did with that. (Also growing hard ticket party numbers).

They better get this one right.

 

[mom2rtk]

I personally think the number of EMHs being reduced is more about the fact they were not being utilized.

How often do you use EMH?

I've done a lot of them through the years and not a single one was in danger of being categorized as under utilized.

 

[Nancyg56]

How often do you use EMH?

I've done a lot of them through the years and not a single one was in danger of being categorized as under utilized.

I never use them, but I do use crowd planners. Many insist that it is best to avoid parks with emh because they tend to be more crowded. This alone tells me that they are used by a lot of resort guests.

 

[Hikergirl]

Please read the thread with the actual facts prior to calling folks "Chicken Little":

Facts, they add EMH to peak times. Fact in 2014 and 2015 Easter fell in April. Fact that would mean there were 2 weeks, the one prior to and the one after Easter, which one could assume is why there were 9 more EMH days.

Has anyone compared the EMH for March those years and this year? How about in 2013, Easter fell on the 31st?

 

[Angel Ariel]

But on this board they have anticipated everything from paid extra hours events and the current EMH coexisting, to elimination of current EMH entirely and paid extra hours events every single day at all parks. How do you determine which to go with? Many will just pick the worst case scenario.

I'd rather plan for the worst case scenario and have things end up better than expected than plan for the best scenario and then be unhappy if it turns out worse than I thought. and I'm a pretty optimistic person in general..

 

[Hikergirl]

So you call people who actually look at the facts (reduced EMH offerings and added pay for attendance parties) Chicken Little, but are not even aware of the Early Morning Magic paid event which is discussed relentlessly in multiple threads on here. You then somehow think EMHs are "not being utilized" and that is why Disney is reducing them? Park attendance is at ALL TIME HIGHS. Disney is raising rates and going to surge pricing because they claim they have a capacity problem. They then REDUCE capacity. Priceless. No, this is not "Chicken Little" but saying so is kind of like the:

There is nothing evil going on. Disney is a business, their goal is to make money. They will price things to what people will pay for them, and people continue to pay them.
Ironically this is a board filled with repeat vacationers, DVC owners. You all have been continuing to pay for years and years. Then when something changs the panic sets in, just like Chicken Little. The ironic thing is, if you guys are right, its still not going to keep you away, you will still visit and pay. So now tell me, just who is that picture supposed to represent, those of us who don't believe something will happen, or even care if it does, or those of you who throw yourselves into a panic about it but still throw your money to Disney?

 

[Nancyg56]

There is nothing evil going on. Disney is a business, their goal is to make money. They will price things to what people will pay for them, and people continue to pay them.
Ironically this is a board filled with repeat vacationers, DVC owners. You all have been continuing to pay for years and years. Then when something changs the panic sets in, just like Chicken Little. The ironic thing is, if you guys are right, its still not going to keep you away, you will still visit and pay. So now tell me, just who is that picture supposed to represent, those of us who don't believe something will happen, or even care if it does, or those of you who throw yourselves into a panic about it but still throw your money to Disney?

This is a discussion board. Yes, any of is are invested in our WDW vacations in a multitude if diverse ways. We have watched events come, events go. Changes occur, and some bring us additional attractions and details, others take some of our most beloved touches away, never to return. We speculate on how these events will impact us, for the better as well as to our detriment. As WDW frequent flyers, we discuss the possibilities, for the better as well as for the worse, and what we will do if our worse case scenario takes place.

I honestly am a little insulted by these "chicken Little" references. Many of the people who are posting have sen how hard ticket events impact teh every day park guest. Don't believe that there may be a detrimental impact if these early morning and late evening events are successful? Ask what the parks are like on both Party and non party days. You see.....if this thing takes off and is a financial success for Disney, we all know that there may very well be a negative impact for those who choose not to purchase the tickets. Just you try to enjoy evening entertainment during the Halloween and Christmas seasons in the MK. I am trying to figure out how to mitigate my oldest son's discomfort with crowds and still manage for him and his wife to enjoy CTM and Wishes together during December.
Pretty darn near impossible.

I am not sold that these events will be all that some are worried about, but after over ten years of frequent trips to WDW with my family, I know that those who are concerned are not basing their fears on nonexistent experiences of things gone before. You are entitled to your opinion, as are the rest of us, but it is rude to validate your own speculation by denigrating those whose opinions differ. You have some facts you want to share, use them.WE all respect that. You have experiences you want to share? Great! That adds to the discussion. You want to call this who disagree Chicken Little? You just lost your credibility.

 

[Hikergirl]

People are panicking over this about what they assume is going to happen. If that isn't just like Chicken Little I don't know what it is. I'm sorry you feel insulted but its the truth, people here are going a little over the top with their assumptions and speculations. Please note, I didn't say all, but there are some and if you don't see that then I don't think you are paying attention. Discussions work both ways, someone here might say something you don't like, if you can't handle that then maybe an internet discussion board isn't the right place for you.