Extra Magic Hours Still Exist

[Harambe]

But these new pay events are currently being offered at MK only, correct? So wouldn't it behoove (gosh, I just love that word!) Disney to then offer EMH at another park, pulling in the guests there, and making the money! That would be a win-win for Disney, resort guests, and non-resort guests. To quote D. Trump - "Hey, I just thought of that!"

 

[Angel Ariel]

Most of the posts I've seen discussing this are just this..discussing. not panicking. Even posts that say they won't stay onsite without EMH - I've said that myself. But I'm not panicking in any way, shape, or form. It's just a fact. EMH are the main reason for us to stay onsite. Without them, we would stay elsewhere. No panic in that at all, just a statement.

 

[Lucius Best]

Disney is a business, their goal is to make money. They will price things to what people will pay for them, and people continue to pay them.

Thank you!

Ironically this is a board filled with repeat vacationers, DVC owners. You all have been continuing to pay for years and years. Then when something changs the panic sets in, just like Chicken Little. The ironic thing is, if you guys are right, its still not going to keep you away, you will still visit and pay.

Ironically, while you criticize people for making assumptions about the future of EMH, you make the assumption that everyone on these DISBoards is going to continue spending money at Disney regardless of what "changs" in the future. Just like Disney is a business, we are customers. If the quality continues to go down and the product gets too expensive, a lot of people will spend less or spend their money elsewhere.

 

[dfb]

People are panicking over this about what they assume is going to happen. If that isn't just like Chicken Little I don't know what it is. I'm sorry you feel insulted but its the truth, people here are going a little over the top with their assumptions and speculations. Please note, I didn't say all, but there are some and if you don't see that then I don't think you are paying attention. Discussions work both ways, someone here might say something you don't like, if you can't handle that then maybe an internet discussion board isn't the right place for you.

If the forecast indicates it may rain on Wednesday then I might say "Hey, It's going to rain on Wednesday" It doesn't mean that it will 100% rain but it also doesn't mean I'm panicking. I might bring an umbrella out with me Wednesday though.

No panic just discussions on a discussion board.

 

[Slapshot1188]

People are panicking over this about what they assume is going to happen. If that isn't just like Chicken Little I don't know what it is. I'm sorry you feel insulted but its the truth, people here are going a little over the top with their assumptions and speculations. Please note, I didn't say all, but there are some and if you don't see that then I don't think you are paying attention. Discussions work both ways, someone here might say something you don't like, if you can't handle that then maybe an internet discussion board isn't the right place for you.

The second a discussion turns from the event (EMH, Price Hikes, Reduced Service) to the people discussing those (calling them "Chicken Little"), you have made a wrong turn. Sorry if you can't see that.

 

[Nancyg56]

People are panicking over this about what they assume is going to happen. If that isn't just like Chicken Little I don't know what it is. I'm sorry you feel insulted but its the truth, people here are going a little over the top with their assumptions and speculations. Please note, I didn't say all, but there are some and if you don't see that then I don't think you are paying attention. Discussions work both ways, someone here might say something you don't like, if you can't handle that then maybe an internet discussion board isn't the right place for you.

I am really pretty comfortable here, and do quite well interacting with internet folks. I have seen a VERY few over the top reactions, but honestly, most of teh conversations have been very well thought out and are based on experience with how DIsney handles anything that makes them money.

 

[Love Tink]

People are panicking over this about what they assume is going to happen. If that isn't just like Chicken Little I don't know what it is. I'm sorry you feel insulted but its the truth, people here are going a little over the top with their assumptions and speculations. Please note, I didn't say all, but there are some and if you don't see that then I don't think you are paying attention. Discussions work both ways, someone here might say something you don't like, if you can't handle that then maybe an internet discussion board isn't the right place for you.

The funny thing is, you are probably feeling self righteous - and are completely clueless about how much you just revealed about your character.

 

[Sammie]

So you call people who actually look at the facts (reduced EMH offerings and added pay for attendance parties) Chicken Little, but are not even aware of the Early Morning Magic paid event which is discussed relentlessly in multiple threads on here. You then somehow think EMHs are "not being utilized" and that is why Disney is reducing them? Park attendance is at ALL TIME HIGHS. Disney is raising rates and going to surge pricing because they claim they have a capacity problem. They then REDUCE capacity. Priceless. No, this is not "Chicken Little" but saying so is kind of like the:

Where on an unofficial Disney page is this event? I have seen talk of a "maybe" event. And even then, all sources say this does "not" take the place of EMH. So again, reaction over what "might" happen.

I think at times morning EMH are not fulling utilized in the numbers Disney would like. Everyone's idea of what is crowded is different. I just still think all this angst is over things that have not happened.

If the Chicken Little reference was too much, then my apologies. I will simply say I think some, not all, are over thinking this and worrying about things that might never come to pass. I simply prefer to deal with the here and now. And right now, there is EMH.

How long have you been going to the parks? We have been going for over 35 years. Lots of things have come and gone in that time and none of it worth worrying over is my point.

I would suggest that all that truly feel this is the beginning of the end of EMH, then voice that opinion directly to Disney.

 

[Sammie]

Yes, there is a new paid morning event supposedly coming, it is on the front page of this forum. And there are fewer scheduled morning EMH days at MK this April. Some people are suggesting that those two decisions by Disney might be related.
http://www.disboards.com/threads/disney-early-morning-magic-details-prices.3495177/



That is an interesting opinion. Not sure that I agree. If you are correct, and it is true that Disney guests don't use EMH any more, that would mean that Disney is making a serious mistake trying to charge people $70 to get into Fantasyland an hour early to ride three rides and eat some waffles, and an even bigger mistake trying to charge $150 for Extra Expensive Magic Hour in the evening. If the existing free EMH is not being utilized, why does Disney think it can charge guests hundreds of dollars for a similar experience?



Well said.

I think for the number of guests at Disney resorts, EMH in the mornings it not utilized by the majority of guests. I have ridden on many not full buses to this event over the years. Also at night, the last hour was basically no one there. It was simply too late for young kids. Again why Disney cut the hours back. Sure some of EMH are very crowded depending on the time of year.

I also think the target audience for these pay events is not Disney resort guests but guests off property. I don't think they pay events will be successful "unless" they offer more than what EMH offers. Since no one has been to one yet, we really don't know if that will happen.

 

[Lucius Best]

I think for the number of guests at Disney resorts, EMH in the mornings it not utilized by the majority of guests. I have ridden on many not full buses to this event over the years. Also at night, the last hour was basically no one there. It was simply too late for young kids. Again why Disney cut the hours back. Sure some of EMH are very crowded depending on the time of year.

I think you are kind of contradicting yourself here. You call people Chicken Little and say they shouldn't worry about things that haven't happened yet. But if EMH is truly underutilized like you suggest, and Disney already did cut back on the hours, then why shouldn't people who like to use EMH be allowed to be somewhat concerned that Disney might cut back on EMH even more?

I also think the target audience for these pay events is not Disney resort guests but guests off property. I don't think they pay events will be successful "unless" they offer more than what EMH offers. Since no one has been to one yet, we really don't know if that will happen.

I agree that the pay events may be targeted to guests staying off-site. But that's another reason why I doubt that EMH is currently underutilized. People pay more to stay on-site where one of the big perks is EMH. People stay off-site to save money, or get more value, and/or because they aren't interested in EMH. If on-site guests truly are not using their EMH perk that costs them nothing extra, why does Disney think it can charge off-site guests hundreds of dollars for glorified EMH, when many off-site guests are trying to save money and don't care about EMH?

 

[mom2rtk]

I think for the number of guests at Disney resorts, EMH in the mornings it not utilized by the majority of guests. I have ridden on many not full buses to this event over the years. Also at night, the last hour was basically no one there. It was simply too late for young kids. Again why Disney cut the hours back. Sure some of EMH are very crowded depending on the time of year.

I also think the target audience for these pay events is not Disney resort guests but guests off property. I don't think they pay events will be successful "unless" they offer more than what EMH offers. Since no one has been to one yet, we really don't know if that will happen.

Isn't EMH supposed to be a time to do your favorite attractions with a shorter wait? Isn't the lower crowd level supposed to be the point? Isn't that how they advertise it?

 

[Sammie]

Isn't EMH supposed to be a time to do your favorite attractions with a shorter wait? Isn't the lower crowd level supposed to be the point? Isn't that how they advertise it?

What we would like it to be and Disney wants it to be, are more than likely not the same thing.

 

[Sammie]

I think you are kind of contradicting yourself here. You call people Chicken Little and say they shouldn't worry about things that haven't happened yet. But if EMH is truly underutilized like you suggest, and Disney already did cut back on the hours, then why shouldn't people who like to use EMH be allowed to be somewhat concerned that Disney might cut back on EMH even more?



I agree that the pay events may be targeted to guests staying off-site. But that's another reason why I doubt that EMH is currently underutilized. People pay more to stay on-site where one of the big perks is EMH. People stay off-site to save money, or get more value, and/or because they aren't interested in EMH. If on-site guests truly are not using their EMH perk that costs them nothing extra, why does Disney think it can charge off-site guests hundreds of dollars for glorified EMH, when many off-site guests are trying to save money and don't care about EMH?

My point is worrying about it is going to change nothing. Therefore I see no need to worry about things that have not even happened. Exercise in futility to me. But certainly if others wish to worry about what might happen, that is certainly their right.

 

[mom2rtk]

My point is worrying about it is going to change nothing. Therefore I see no need to worry about things that have not even happened. Exercise in futility to me. But certainly if others wish to worry about what might happen, that is certainly their right.

But if Disney advertises it as having lower lines......

 

[kittyab]

Ironically, while you criticize people for making assumptions about the future of EMH, you make the assumption that everyone on these DISBoards is going to continue spending money at Disney regardless of what "changs" in the future. Just like Disney is a business, we are customers. If the quality continues to go down and the product gets too expensive, a lot of people will spend less or spend their money elsewhere.

This is us. We will not spend more to get the extra hours. We are thinking it is time to explore Universal on our next trip. We are DVC owners but that does not mean we have to go to Disney parks.

 

[ttintagel]

My point is worrying about it is going to change nothing. Therefore I see no need to worry about things that have not even happened. Exercise in futility to me. But certainly if others wish to worry about what might happen, that is certainly their right.

And it's NOT an exercise in futility to tell other people what they ought and ought not to think and feel about something? To tell them where they are and aren't allowed to voice their opinions? You seem to be devoting a lot of time and energy over something that you're ridiculing other people for caring about.

 

[revdon64]

Unless of course that the paid early entry/late stay things are aimed specifically at people staying off site. They do it 1-3 times a week and do EMH on other days. IOW, It really indicates nothing but a cash grab at this point. Until they monetize EMH with resort fees or take them away altogether, this is ALL speculation.

 

[Delirium]

Speculating that the intent of the paid events is to ultimately replace EMH is a much more logical degree of speculation than speculating that t's not.

 

[Sammie]

And it's NOT an exercise in futility to tell other people what they ought and ought not to think and feel about something? To tell them where they are and aren't allowed to voice their opinions? You seem to be devoting a lot of time and energy over something that you're ridiculing other people for caring about.

For some reason on this forum many seem to really take all of this way too seriously and get upset easily. I don't believe I have told anyone what they can or can't do. Where did I say, You can't discuss this?

I simply stated my opinion. Go right ahead and worry to your heart's content. I don't think it will change anything though is my point.

 

[Sammie]

Speculating that the intent of the paid events is to ultimately replace EMH is a much more logical degree of speculation than speculating that t's not.

I don't think I ever said EMH will never end. I simply said, it has not happened and no one knows for sure.

As to whether one is more logical than another is strictly personal opinion.