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Markstudy said:
This is why they have 2 tow-trains that can move a broke monorail in 15 minutes.

Also the parking trams that bring people from the parking-lot are able to hook to a monorail and pull it with rope/cable (this is a back-up system to the tow-trains)
Actually they have three tow trains, but it takes a bit longer than 15 minutes. As for the parking lot trams, I don't think so.
 
peter11435 said:
As for the parking lot trams, I don't think so.


The monorail can be towed by the new work tractor up the hill to the Contemporary, fully loaded, at 40MPH. :teeth:

If the work tractor is not available, the train can be towed by a Parking Tram (which has been done in past years). :worship:

A monorail can make an emergency stop going at 40 MPH in three and a half pylons (approximately 300 feet) when empty. :idea:


http://monorailyellow.com/monorails.asp
 
Markstudy said:
The monorail can be towed by the new work tractor up the hill to the Contemporary, fully loaded, at 40MPH. :teeth:

If the work tractor is not available, the train can be towed by a Parking Tram (which has been done in past years). :worship:

A monorail can make an emergency stop going at 40 MPH in three and a half pylons (approximately 300 feet) when empty. :idea:


http://monorailyellow.com/monorails.asp
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Think about it how would the tram be able to pull a monorail. There would constanlty be obsitcles in the way of the tram most importantly numerous times when the monorails go over water.
 

peter11435 said:
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Think about it how would the tram be able to pull a monorail. There would constanlty be obsitcles in the way of the tram most importantly numerous times when the monorails go over water.

Just the fact that they thought of that for a "Plan B" is impressive to me.

I would like to know more about it. Maybe just for short distance to get to the next evacuation point, so they could get people off the train?

I will try to learn more. Do you have any leads to more information???

P.S. I don't believe everything I read...but if you look at
http://monorailyellow.com/monorails.asp
I'd rate it as one of the top 3 web sites I've found on the subject of Disney Monorails

Also Good are

http://waltstoytrains.railfan.net/roundhouse.htm

and

http://www.mcjackie.com/monorail.html
 
Markstudy said:
Just the fact that they thought of that for a "Plan B" is impressive to me.

I would like to know more about it. Maybe just for short distance to get to the next evacuation point, so they could get people off the train?

I will try to learn more. Do you have any leads to more information???

P.S. I don't believe everything I read...but if you look at
http://monorailyellow.com/monorails.asp
I'd rate it as one of the top 3 web sites I've found on the subject of Disney Monorails

Also Good are

http://waltstoytrains.railfan.net/roundhouse.htm

and

http://www.mcjackie.com/monorail.html
Monorailyellow is a great site for monorail info. I just have a hard time believing the bit about the trams. However it might be true, everything else on the site appears to be accurate.
 
I have been on monorails that have broken down, behind or in front of another that was broken down, and tried to enter AND leave the park when the monorail system is not working. Friends of mine were even removed from a monorail via a cherry picker.
One broken down monorail alone will stop line traffic at least one hour, from our experiences. It takes 15 minutes to call someone. 15 for them to arrive. Half hour to dink around and decide to tow it. More time for the tow to arrive, and hook up. Cram those guests into another already packed monorail... An hour delay is nothing for a broken down monorail.
I have been in MK when the monorail has been down for hours.
 
Luv2Roam said:
I have been on monorails that have broken down, behind or in front of another that was broken down, and tried to enter AND leave the park when the monorail system is not working. Friends of mine were even removed from a monorail via a cherry picker.
One broken down monorail alone will stop line traffic at least one hour, from our experiences. It takes 15 minutes to call someone. 15 for them to arrive. Half hour to dink around and decide to tow it. More time for the tow to arrive, and hook up. Cram those guests into another already packed monorail... An hour delay is nothing for a broken down monorail.
I have been in MK when the monorail has been down for hours.

Interresting, :scratchin thanks for your story.

I know 15 mins is a joke.... I just said that because a guy told me, it took that long to get the tractor to the monorail (not the whole story I agree).

But it is still amazing that the monorail could be down for only hours, instead of days. I am impressed by the 99% dependabilty of a 30 year old system at WDW. :woohoo:
 
Luv2Roam said:
I have been on monorails that have broken down, behind or in front of another that was broken down, and tried to enter AND leave the park when the monorail system is not working. Friends of mine were even removed from a monorail via a cherry picker. One broken down monorail alone will stop line traffic at least one hour, from our experiences. It takes 15 minutes to call someone. 15 for them to arrive. Half hour to dink around and decide to tow it. More time for the tow to arrive, and hook up. Cram those guests into another already packed monorail... An hour delay is nothing for a broken down monorail. I have been in MK when the monorail has been down for hours.
If a bus breaks down, they can have another one or more to replace it in 5-15 minutes.

I've walked out of a very crowded Fantasmic to the All-Star bus stops and my jaw dropped at the amount of people waiting - but then I was very pleasantly surprised when 3 All-Star buses pulled up at the same time to clear the lines - and another 2 buses were waiting to assist.

Now if they could only load the wheelchairs faster!
 
I was speaking to a monorail driver on Thursday. He suggested that there was a re-assessment done in October regarding a possible expansion, but the findings have not been released yet.... so maybe.....
 
The new buses can load the wheelchairs pretty quickly with their built-in ramps and kneeling bus - but it still takes the same amount of time for the driver to strap down the wheelchair/scooter and always will.
 
Markstudy said:
Indeed the Mark IV monorails were towed by a parking tram when a work tractor was not available, I have been told this by several more seasoned cast members. The Mark VI trains (to my knowledge) have never been towed by a parking tram, however, it is still in the SOP that it can be used. The Mark VI trains weight significantly more than the Mark IV trains, which is another contributing factor.

The parking tram would only be used if something kept the work tractor from being switched to the mainline from the spurline. There is significant redundancy that keeps this from being very probably, but is certainly possible.

Thanks for visiting my website! :)
 
I have been at MK a couple times now when the Express Monorail went down and all guests were diverted to the Resort Monorail for a while. It keeps things moving for guests, but resort guests aren't too happy about the inconvenience.
 
Last Sunday night, 2/26, a resort monorail train borke down... I was having dinner at the Concourse Steakhouse at the Contemporary and the train was being towed through the building... Normal service began about 20 minutes after the tow and train went through... It was very interesting to see...
 


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