EPCOT - renovations??....in the news......

[DDLand]

While I don't want to give Disney credit actual building on avatar is 4 years not seven. Disney is a company that makes their construction budget span several fiscal years.

Yeah, you've got a problem with that? Proper planning and building time frames are critical when financing these projects. Spreading expenditures out over several quarters lets them spend more without affecting short term viability. Also it allows multiple projects to be financed at the same time.

Shanghai (majority)
DAK
Hong Kong
Disneyland Paris
Disneyland

Are all receiving major updates/new attractions and shows all at once. If Disney decided against this strategy they'd build one thing, then start construction on another, etc. Really at the end of the 5 years you're left with the same amount of attractions, just built one at a time v. all at once.

As for everyone's complaints about the forthcoming additions, some of the most reputable people on Disney rumors have said as much. They're coming.


Something also tells me that the 800,000,000 for Shanghai came from the DHS budget...

 

[Cormoran]

From a budget/profit point of view, I see the new revenue from occupancy rates (driven by on-site FP+ advantage), rising Park attendance from FantasyLand expansion, rising prices, and soon to open Avatar as better justifying an ongoing buildout for a few years.

However, never soon enough.

But building does take a vision to the future and how the Park(s) may look in another 50 years.

I think once Frozen moves to American Idol spot, demolition will begin.....and announcements.

Was the Frozen into American Idol announced or is this another unconfirmed report?

 

[Cormoran]

As for everyone's complaints about the forthcoming additions, some of the most reputable people on Disney rumors have said as much. They're coming.

When?

 

[rteetz]

Yeah, you've got a problem with that? Proper planning and building time frames are critical when financing these projects. Spreading expenditures out over several quarters lets them spend more without affecting short term viability. Also it allows multiple projects to be financed at the same time.

Shanghai (majority)
DAK
Hong Kong
Disneyland Paris
Disneyland

Are all receiving major updates/new attractions and shows all at once. If Disney decided against this strategy they'd build one thing, then start construction on another, etc. Really at the end of the 5 years you're left with the same amount of attractions, just built one at a time v. all at once.

As for everyone's complaints about the forthcoming additions, some of the most reputable people on Disney rumors have said as much. They're coming.


Something also tells me that the 800,000,000 for Shanghai came from the DHS budget...

I was just saying that the actual construction was four years not seven those other three are planning. And you know I am one for telling credible rumors.

 

[DisneyLandMan]

I know it is 2 different parks and companies and yadda yadda yadda, but Universal is closing things down and rebuilding new rides at a semi astounding rate. And their attendance is on the rise. When will Disney finally realize that they aren't the monopoly that they once were and that they need to compete. What is the last major new attraction? 7 Dwarves Mine Train? Other than that.....EE? Toy Story? Meanwhile, Universal is popping out new attractions almost yearly. Step it up Disney! Haha

 

[DDLand]

I was just saying that the actual construction was four years not seven those other three are planning. And you know I am one for telling credible rumors.

Yeah, I know about your rumor following ways.

That was directed to others.

 

[DDLand]

When?

We'll know for sure at the D23 Expo. By the end of the year I wouldn't be surprised to see demo work/site prep being done.

 

[crazy4wdw]

While I don't want to give Disney credit actual building on avatar is 4 years not seven. Disney is a company that makes their construction budget span several fiscal years.

I was thinking about the entire process, I should have stated "design and construction". I believe the Avatar developement was announced in 2011 and its scheduled to open either in 2017 or 2018.

 

[rteetz]

Was the Frozen into American Idol announced or is this another unconfirmed report?

Frozen was announced

 

[rteetz]

I was thinking about the entire process, I should have stated "design and construction". I believe the Avatar developement was announced in 2011 and its scheduled to open either in 2017 or 2018.

2017 is the announced date many are saying it will be spring 2017

 

[rteetz]

I know it is 2 different parks and companies and yadda yadda yadda, but Universal is closing things down and rebuilding new rides at a semi astounding rate. And their attendance is on the rise. When will Disney finally realize that they aren't the monopoly that they once were and that they need to compete. What is the last major new attraction? 7 Dwarves Mine Train? Other than that.....EE? Toy Story? Meanwhile, Universal is popping out new attractions almost yearly. Step it up Disney! Haha

Disney used to do the same thing. But of course things have changed.

 

[Cormoran]

Frozen was announced

thanks, I must've missed it. When is it scheduled to open?

 

[Reddog1134]

People always add in the 3 years for when they announced the Avatar expansion. I still believe Disney rushed out that press release (too early) to avoid another leak like New Fantasyland.

If you want to add in planning, it took 12 years to build Magic Kingdom.

 

[rteetz]

thanks, I must've missed it. When is it scheduled to open?

Well it's just the sing a long show thing. It will debut with frozen summer fun in the summer after Star Wars weekends.

 

[skier_pete]

Agree that Avatar construction is 4 years. Still an unnecessarily long time. (I get they do this to spread out spending, but still.) On the bright side, it's less than 2 years off now. (I remember a few months ago that Rivers of Lights was announced to be opening in Spring 2016, so we might not have to wait that long for new DAK stuff.)

 

[Orph]

Innovations needs something....different in keeping with the theme of.....something.

In EPCOT's original theme and concept, Innovation is appropriate. However, since Nemo invaded Sea and Anna and Elsa invading Norway....something needs to be done in keeping with the overall changes. The stuff inside Innovation is also....getting kinda old and tired. People arent as attracted to them anymore...which is really sad.

 

[Cormoran]

Innovations needs something....different in keeping with the theme of.....something.

In EPCOT's original theme and concept, Innovation is appropriate. However, since Nemo invaded Sea and Anna and Elsa invading Norway....something needs to be done in keeping with the overall changes. The stuff inside Innovation is also....getting kinda old and tired. People arent as attracted to them anymore...which is really sad.

But there are still people that visit Innoventions. what I find disturbing is Disney's propensity to shut down attractions and leave it. In Epcot there's already the Odessy and wonder of Life pavilion that have remained vacant for years. Epcot really can't afford to lose attractions/ exibits, IMO, unless they aim to renovate and reopen immediately. At WDW, I haven't seen any evidence to support the idea that they are interested in improving the guest experience.

 

[George4]

While I don't ever want stuff closing, I have to say we haven't really spent any time in Innoventions in years. Mostly its a shortcut to get across Future World.

I think Innovations really catered (for the most part) to a younger crowd, and my 6-10 years olds loved it the past few years. My 13 year old has been done with it, but has had fun taking her brothers through the Piggy Bank and Fire House, so she enjoyed herself in the end. Just take it as designed for a younger crowd.

 

[DDLand]

Disney used to do the same thing. But of course things have changed.

Disney's added/upgraded several different attractions in Orlando over the last few years. Under the Sea, Star Tours, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, as well the entire beautifully themed land. It also appears like there's no indication that they're letting up.

I don't think Disney is less ambitious then Universal, to the contrary Disney is building something in all 4 Resorts spending much more then their competitors.

Also they're currently building a massive Chinese theme park. That's more then we can say about Universal...

Universal has been playing out of the playbook Disney wrote. Don't underestimate Disney.

 

[rteetz]

Disney's added/upgraded several different attractions in Orlando over the last few years. Under the Sea, Star Tours, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, as well the entire beautifully themed land. It also appears like there's no indication that they're letting up.

I don't think Disney is less ambitious then Universal, to the contrary Disney is building something in all 4 Resorts spending much more then their competitors.

Also they're currently building a massive Chinese theme park. That's more then we can say about Universal...

Universal has been playing out of the playbook Disney wrote. Don't underestimate Disney.

I know Disney has been building my point was disney used to be much quicker about their building like universal. Universal tore down and built transformers in a year.