Engagement Ring Question

Dr.Cinderella

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My boyfriend and I have been looking at rings lately, and I pretty much know what I want: a round solitaire in a white gold Tiffany style setting (probably 6 prong). However, I am unsure about the diamond itself, I never realized how complicated diamonds are! Anyways, I would like the diamond to be the focus of the ring and thus as big as possible within a reasonable budget of course! So my dilema is, I can get a 1 and 3/4 carat diamond that is of a lower color and clarity (I-J and I2-I3) for the same price as a 1 carat diamond that is G in color and SI1 in clarity and ideal cut. So I dont know what to do, Ive never noticed these type of things on a diamond but I want it to sparkle of course too. What do you think or what would you do? Thanks! :goodvibes
 
Have you gone to bluenile.com ? You can build your own diamond. It will show you the difference between the size and colors etc. You can choose settings as well.
 

Thanks for the tip Skylar, I will check it out! Lynn and Angela, is there really a visable difference? Id love just the bigger diamond!
 
The better the color and grade the better it will sparkle. Do you want a big not as sparly diamond or a smaller one with a lot of sparkle? It is up to you.

If you can find a big diamond with great 3 cs (clarity, color and cut) that is in your price range then get the bigger diamond.

It really is personal preference though.
 
One more question... I really like the Chanel style wedding band with the small diamonds in them, but prefer the plain Tiffany style silver band for the engagement ring itself so the solitiare stands out. Would these look nice together on my finger after I get married (really looking ahead now!) or would it look funny if the two bands dont match in style?
 
I would go with a smaller diamond with better clarity/cut. The reason I say this is because good diamonds go up in value where as the ones with less clarity/brilliance, become more "numbered" and less value...
 
I agree with Lynn and Skylar, I have a 1 carat pink solitare (I'm not a diamond gal), and it is perfect size on my hand. I have mine in a bezel set so it does look bigger too. I'm sure whatever you choose will be beautiful. Ask the jeweler to see 2 diamonds up close before you decide, they usually carry a stock in store.
HTH :)
 
One more question... I really like the Chanel style wedding band with the small diamonds in them, but prefer the plain Tiffany style silver band for the engagement ring itself so the solitiare stands out. Would these look nice together on my finger after I get married (really looking ahead now!) or would it look funny if the two bands dont match in style?

I have a plain 1ct solitaire in white gold and I'm going to have it paired with an eternity band after I get married. I tried it out at the store and it looked spiffy to me. :)
 
One more question... I really like the Chanel style wedding band with the small diamonds in them, but prefer the plain Tiffany style silver band for the engagement ring itself so the solitiare stands out. Would these look nice together on my finger after I get married (really looking ahead now!) or would it look funny if the two bands dont match in style?

I have a Tiffany ring and it is a princess cut solitaire and if you go into the store they actually tell you that a lot of people do the channel setting for a band. Thats what mine is!!
 
+1 for Blue Nile. Take your time in their Diamond Education section, and all your questions will be answered. After several months of researching diamonds I felt like I was qualified to be a gemologist! Blue Nile's diamond search and build-your-ring sections are awesome, and I really like that you can see the certificates for all their diamonds. Because they don't have the overhead of a brick-and-mortar store they have reasonable prices for the quality they provide.

Generally, the most important factor is cut (which is different than shape), color is second most important, and clarity is last or close to last. Carat isn't as important as many think, and is actually dependent on the size of the woman's hand. Smaller fingers look great with smaller carat diamonds. Note that four .5 carat diamonds are not the same price as a single 2 carat diamond of equal quality. That's because it's harder to find larger diamonds without color or inclusions. Round and Princess shaped diamonds appear to be larger than other shapes of the same carat weight. Ideally cut round and princess diamonds are also geometrically designed to be the most brilliant. Brilliance can help mask lower color grades, but try to stay at or above I. For clarity, you generally want to be at SI2 or higher. In fact, this is where you can save a lot of money, because to the naked eye there's not any difference between an IF (flawless) and a SI grade.

Different shapes (heart, etc), colors (pink), and flourescence are generally viewed as negative/undesirable/flawed by diamond purists. But then again, by conventional standards I guess I'm viewed as undesirable/flawed. I guess all that truly matters is that you're happy.

Make sure the diamond is certified, preferably by GIA, and have it independently appraised as soon as it arrives. Stay away from mall jewelry stores.

Finally, something you might find interesting is that the "tradition" of a diamond engagement ring was artificially manufactured. A brilliant marketing campaign that started in the 1930s by the DeBeers corporation has convinced Americans that we're supposed to give diamond rings. Even the idea that diamonds are valuable because they are rare is a myth. DeBeers has millions of diamonds that they keep in lockup in New York, Paris, London, etc to artificially control the supply, creating demand. It's been really successful marketing campaign, because even after having this knowledge, and verifying it with older generations (all of whom just have gold wedding bands -- no diamonds), I still felt like I HAD to get a diamond ring!
Still, it was the best $12K I ever spent; it got me my wife.
 
Definite difference. Mine is a D (best quality) my mom's is a G and it looks yellow when compared to mine and also still tinted yellow when just looking at it. My inclusions (I'm unsure on the levels) is pretty high too and I think it just overall looks better.

I'd pick quality over size any day.
 
Gonna go with everyone on quality over size.

The most important thing for me was color because I wanted a heart shape diamond and I know the weird cut makes it less sparkly, so I wanted a perfectly white D colored diamond. Mine is a little over 1ct and I could've gone a lot bigger for price but didn't want to sacrifice.

I could definitely see the difference between my D colored diamond and the other ones I was shown. As far as inclusions go, it was really hard for me to see the "feathers" even with the magnifying class, but the carbon black spots were really obvious in some.
 
check out pricescope.com They have all sorts of information. we got my e-ring from jamesallen.com and went through pricescope for a better price.

When I got the ring I had it inspected and my inspection was exactly what james allen had.

Also, look for "odd sizes." For example, the most requested sizes are .50 .75 1.0...look for something that is off a bit...like .81 or .90...they are hard to find, but you'll get a price closure to say .75 instead of a price closer to 1.0...Make sense?
HTH
 
+1 for Blue Nile. Take your time in their Diamond Education section, and all your questions will be answered. After several months of researching diamonds I felt like I was qualified to be a gemologist! Blue Nile's diamond search and build-your-ring sections are awesome, and I really like that you can see the certificates for all their diamonds. Because they don't have the overhead of a brick-and-mortar store they have reasonable prices for the quality they provide.

Generally, the most important factor is cut (which is different than shape), color is second most important, and clarity is last or close to last. Carat isn't as important as many think, and is actually dependent on the size of the woman's hand. Smaller fingers look great with smaller carat diamonds. Note that four .5 carat diamonds are not the same price as a single 2 carat diamond of equal quality. That's because it's harder to find larger diamonds without color or inclusions. Round and Princess shaped diamonds appear to be larger than other shapes of the same carat weight. Ideally cut round and princess diamonds are also geometrically designed to be the most brilliant. Brilliance can help mask lower color grades, but try to stay at or above I. For clarity, you generally want to be at SI2 or higher. In fact, this is where you can save a lot of money, because to the naked eye there's not any difference between an IF (flawless) and a SI grade.

Different shapes (heart, etc), colors (pink), and flourescence are generally viewed as negative/undesirable/flawed by diamond purists. But then again, by conventional standards I guess I'm viewed as undesirable/flawed. I guess all that truly matters is that you're happy.

Make sure the diamond is certified, preferably by GIA, and have it independently appraised as soon as it arrives. Stay away from mall jewelry stores.

Finally, something you might find interesting is that the "tradition" of a diamond engagement ring was artificially manufactured. A brilliant marketing campaign that started in the 1930s by the DeBeers corporation has convinced Americans that we're supposed to give diamond rings. Even the idea that diamonds are valuable because they are rare is a myth. DeBeers has millions of diamonds that they keep in lockup in New York, Paris, London, etc to artificially control the supply, creating demand. It's been really successful marketing campaign, because even after having this knowledge, and verifying it with older generations (all of whom just have gold wedding bands -- no diamonds), I still felt like I HAD to get a diamond ring!
Still, it was the best $12K I ever spent; it got me my wife.

Great advise!! :thumbsup2 Another great website to go to is pricescope.com

A smaller good quality stone, IMHO is so much better than a larger diamond. I've seen some woman "flashing" their rocks, that are obviously low quality, because they don't have any brilliance or sparkle. After extensive research, I ended up getting a 1/2 carat, round, VS1, F, excellent cut. I can honestly say I've never seen a diamond with more sparkle...even when it's not clean. It might not be huge, but you better have your sunglasses on! :cool2:

Also, as stated by OP, be very careful of the chain/mall jewelers. They have lighting that will make even the lowest quality diamond sparkle. Be sure to review the certificate...and if it doesn't have a certificate, i'd stay away from it altogether.
 
definitely pay attention to hand size. i fell in love with a 1 carat with additional 1.2 ct surrounding, but it looked ridiculous on me because I have size 4 fingers and teeny hands! (My wrist is like 5'') so I'm ending up with .71 center emerald with add .3 trillion cuts , total 1.1 something and it looks VERY appropriate.
 
Thanks everyone for all of the advice so far! It is tempting to want the biggest diamond possible, but I am seeing that the quality is important too. We have mostly looked online so far, so I think going to a store and actually seeing the differences in quality will help. Good tip about hand size too! I have tiny hands and wrists too, I have a promise ring already on my left ring finger and it is a size 4.25 so I guess I should consider that too. Perhaps the 1 ct would be more proportional on me?
 
Also, does anyone have any experience with the website abazias.com? That is where the better quality, 1 ct diamond we found is from. They emailed me the certificate and it was from EGL Israel, just wondering if that is ok? Thanks for helping with all my questions.
 












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