ECV - no fast pass

[mmouse50]

HELP - there might be a change of plans in my future. And I don't know what to do.

I am leaving in a few weeks with a friend of mine - we have all of our fast passes done. But now her job may not let her go and I have a back up plan - another friend but he will need a scooter -

I have found out that her magic band can't be given to him and that I can't have her fast passes switched over to him - so I will be starting from scratch.

I don't think that we will need a disability card - he needs the scooter because he can't walk long distances but he also can't stand in lines very long - leg problems.

So what do I do? How do I tour through the parks without a fast pass? Can I still board the old way (mainly through the exits) without the fast pass or should we get the disability card?

 

[Toffeewoffy]

I'm afraid he won't qualify for the DAS just for being in an ECV. Disney's solution if you can't stand is to get a wheelchair or ECV, so that's that on that score.

I think Disney are being a bit mean on the swap-out, but it doesn't surprise me.

When are you going? We found that the last couple of weeks of August and into September there were no queues at all as both the US and UK schools had gone back. We had minimal queuing for anything. However, this was 2006 and pre-tour group saturation.

 

[SueM in MN]

HELP - there might be a change of plans in my future. And I don't know what to do.

I am leaving in a few weeks with a friend of mine - we have all of our fast passes done. But now her job may not let her go and I have a back up plan - another friend but he will need a scooter -

I have found out that her magic band can't be given to him and that I can't have her fast passes switched over to him - so I will be starting from scratch.

I don't think that we will need a disability card - he needs the scooter because he can't walk long distances but he also can't stand in lines very long - leg problems.

So what do I do? How do I tour through the parks without a fast pass? Can I still board the old way (mainly through the exits) without the fast pass or should we get the disability card?

Are you going to WDW or DL?

Most of WDW attractions actually have Mainstream lines, which mean the regular line is accessible and guests using wheelchairs and ECVs are in the same lines as everyone else.
(So not boarding at exit).
There are a few WDW attractions which were not able to be Mainstreamed; those have a different 'mobility entrance' , but there are not that many of them. During busy times, those attractions may give out 'Wheelchair Return Times'; guest in wheelchair or ECV goes to the attraction and gets a card with a time roughly equal to the wait time in the Standby line. When they return at that time, they are allowed to go into the wheelchair entrance.
Fastpass can still be helpful for those - guests with wheelchairs or ECVs who arrive at their Fastpass time will still be given a Wheelchair Return Time card, but it will be valid right away, not with an extra 'standby time' wait.

Most attractions are ECV accessible; for those that are not, he could get a loaner wheelchair from the attraction that he could use in that line. He should ask at the individual attraction before parking the ECV.

There is no need for DAS (Disability Access Service) to do any of those things with a mobility device because the lines are accessible and CMs can see the mobility device so they can see the need.
The majority of guests either mobility based needs have their needs met with those, so don't need and are not given DAS. If the guest feels their needs are not met just by using the mobility device, they should consider what their needs are related to waiting in a regular line and discuss those with the CMs in Guest Relations.

There is more information about DAS in a WDW DAS thread and a DL DAS thread located near the top of this board.

 

[disney david]

HELP - there might be a change of plans in my future. And I don't know what to do.

I am leaving in a few weeks with a friend of mine - we have all of our fast passes done. But now her job may not let her go and I have a back up plan - another friend but he will need a scooter -

I have found out that her magic band can't be given to him and that I can't have her fast passes switched over to him - so I will be starting from scratch.

I don't think that we will need a disability card - he needs the scooter because he can't walk long distances but he also can't stand in lines very long - leg problems.

So what do I do? How do I tour through the parks without a fast pass? Can I still board the old way (mainly through the exits) without the fast pass or should we get the disability card?

Why can't he get his own magic band if he has a park ticket he can get one if staying at a Disney resort. Or if not he can buy one then he can make fast plus reservation at the parks and if he links it through the app he can do it their. Sorry if I am missing something or if you don't want to answer. He can also make same day fast pass plus reservations cms can help him with that.

 

[SueM in MN]

You may also be able yo copy your Fastpasses to him.

 

[The Hunchback]

We do the mainstream lines with a Scooter all the time. There are only a few that need to have you either walk or in a traditional wheel chair. Pirates is one of them. Some of the mainstream lines are tight for the ECV so be sure you have practiced tight or wide turns before you try the older attractions.

 

[mmouse50]

Thanks for the info. The only problem I have if my plans change are that the fast passes that I made with my travel partner in crime won't transfer to him - so I will lose those fast pass times and if she doesn't know if she can't go until about 3 weeks out then I will probably wont get anything - but I guess we will roll with the punches going in the middle of November after F&W and before the Thanksgiving so hopefully it wont be too crowded.

 

[OurBigTrip]

Just a couple of questions...

Are you the person that is managing all of the FP+ for the trip?

Are the tickets annual passes or non-expired, previously used passes?

 

[OurBigTrip]

Sorry so cryptic before, I was in the middle of something.

If the ticket for your friend is new and has not been previously used, you can transfer it to the other friend, should he end up coming on the trip. This can all be done on-line through My Disney Experience.

Doing so will transfer the FP+ as well, and then he can get a Magic Band upon check-in at the resort.

 

[Elevationist]

We do the mainstream lines with a Scooter all the time. There are only a few that need to have you either walk or in a traditional wheel chair. Pirates is one of them. Some of the mainstream lines are tight for the ECV so be sure you have practiced tight or wide turns before you try the older attractions.

I've used an ECV in the parks for years, but admittedly not since they started issuing these Return Time tickets. I'm very curious to see how it works when I get down there next month. I don't need a DAS, and I've never asked for a GAC. I just can't walk or stand for extended periods, due to Lupus and Fibromyalgia. But for rides with a stand-by time of less than 30 minutes, I usually just park my ECV and hop to go through the normal line.

Regardless, I can think of two issues off the top of my head that I've had in the past... I know that BTMR needs a separate mobility entrance (you basically go In the Exit) because the Stand-By queue has stairs. So just driving into the Stand-By line on this one won't work. (Knowing this, I intend on hitting it at Rope Drop and crossing it off my list right off the bat.)

The only other big issue I can remember is Expedition Everest. They claim it was built for the queue to be wheelchair and ECV accessible, but let me tell you... Some of the turns in the Stand-By line are VERY VERY VERY tight. And my experience was that the people around you are less that kind when you're struggling, and need to take a moment to get yourself unstuck.

 

[SueM in MN]

I've used an ECV in the parks for years, but admittedly not since they started issuing these Return Time tickets. I'm very curious to see how it works when I get down there next month. I don't need a DAS, and I've never asked for a GAC. I just can't walk or stand for extended periods, due to Lupus and Fibromyalgia. But for rides with a stand-by time of less than 30 minutes, I usually just park my ECV and hop to go through the normal line.

Regardless, I can think of two issues off the top of my head that I've had in the past... I know that BTMR needs a separate mobility entrance (you basically go In the Exit) because the Stand-By queue has stairs. So just driving into the Stand-By line on this one won't work. (Knowing this, I intend on hitting it at Rope Drop and crossing it off my list right off the bat.)

The only other big issue I can remember is Expedition Everest. They claim it was built for the queue to be wheelchair and ECV accessible, but let me tell you... Some of the turns in the Stand-By line are VERY VERY VERY tight. And my experience was that the people around you are less that kind when you're struggling, and need to take a moment to get yourself unstuck.

Just a clarification - many people think BTMRR has stairs in the Standby queue.
It actually has no stairs.
The reason it has a separate mobility entrance is that:
- the regular standby queue includes a very steep ramp, which is too steep to be accessible by wheelchair or ECV.

- the regular boarding area is on one side of the track and guests unload at the same place, but on the other side of the track. There would be no way to get a wheelchair or ECV from one side of the track to the other if loading in the regular area.
The mobility entrance allows guests to load and unload from the same side.

If there is a wait, guests using ECVs, wheelchairs and other mobility devices will get a wheelchair return time that is similar to the wait in the standby line. You will wait outside of the line and can go on other attractions or whatever during the wait time.
When you return after waiting, you will be directed to the accessible entrance to ride.

 

[Elevationist]

Just a clarification - many people think BTMRR has stairs in the Standby queue.
It actually has no stairs.
The reason it has a separate mobility entrance is that:
- the regular standby queue includes a very steep ramp, which is too steep to be accessible by wheelchair or ECV.

- the regular boarding area is on one side of the track and guests unload at the same place, but on the other side of the track. There would be no way to get a wheelchair or ECV from one side of the track to the other if loading in the regular area.
The mobility entrance allows guests to load and unload from the same side.

If there is a wait, guests using ECVs, wheelchairs and other mobility devices will get a wheelchair return time that is similar to the wait in the standby line. You will wait outside of the line and can go on other attractions or whatever during the wait time.
When you return after waiting, you will be directed to the accessible entrance to ride.

Ahh, my mistake about the stairs. I definitely remembered the queue having multiple levels, from back in my healthier days.

Still, this is why I want to hit it first, so hopefully I can get there before there's any wait at all, and not have to even mess with a return ticket.