East Meets West: A WDW Resident's First Visit to the Land [COMPLETE!]

We immediately headed for City Hall for our first visit (and my graduation) buttons. Looking around Main Street for the first time, despite all the similarities it still felt different. You could feel it. There was an "oldness" to it ... but not in a negative way. More like visiting a grandparent's house, where everything feels lived in and filled with memories. The charm was noticeable even then. Disneyland already, at the very front of the park, felt locked in time. The atmosphere was different; it was grand and filled with integrity--not stripped to the bones and filled with an empty need to make a buck. You could really feel Walt here ... and it was a dream state, all right. A dream belonging to Walt that he continues to share with everyone who enters his little park. I looked up at his apartment over the fire house and felt like I should expect him to look out a window. I did look for the lamp kept on in his honor, but I never saw it: Apparently you can at night, and I kept forgetting to look then.



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CRAZY Ariel!



I LOVED your description of looking around Main Street for the first time. Well said! :lovestruc

That Crazy Ariel... my 11 year old son dubbed her "Pooping Ariel" in that window display. :laughing:

Very clever "Castle in the palm of your hand" pictures!

Hope the rest of your first day is illness-free for all.​
 
Enjoying your TR so much! Can't wait to read the rest. We are heading there next week for our first time as well after lots and lots of WDW trips and are so excited to see a different part of the Disney universe. :banana:
 
Can I just say I'm a little jealous of the 'conversations' you had with the different characters. I'm not that quick thinking on my feet and so I always tend to get a little awkward with characters outside of getting my photograph (and even then I feel like I look super awkward). The Dale/tablecloth thing was pretty much out of the norm for me and I just wish I could get a fun story/rapport going on. Maybe someday so I'll just be thankful for the few occasions when it happens. An ex-friend that I went with once didn't have that problem and even got Br'er Fox to escort her to the buffet for her food. Let's just say I was a touch green over that one.

Do you have a photo of the GK buttons?

It seemed a bit different at GK because they were allowed to "talk" using pens and the tablecloth, but yeah, I hear ya on the awkwardness. Usually I just ask about another character in their respective movie/show and go from there as far as trying to "create conversation." Last Monday, we went to Hollywood Studios to meet Phineas & Ferb, and I had a paper fan because OMG-what-was-I-thinking-FL-in-July. I knew one of them would take the fan and sure enough, it was the first thing Phineas grabbed. The fan then became subject of conversation, and then we had an impromptu dance party because of the show music they play in the area :rotfl:

It gets easier if you put yourself into character yourself. I cosplay (costume play) at various sci-fi/fantasy/anime conventions and pretty much get into character, so I've had practice. If you want a really funny experience, ask Mickey if he "likes cheese." :lmao: Myna is convinced that Mickey is convinced that she's "crazy" because she asked him that!

The clearest photo of the GK button would be here:
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Ha, yes, the "FSU" weasel! I heard that's a signature by one of the imagineers who designed the ride. Clearly he was feeling under-represented! ;) I know for a fact, though, that Dale is a Gators fan! :thumbsup2

Um no, listen closer. It says "Go 2 DL" ;)
 

When I last left off, we were ogling over the size of the castle. This was brief, because we had been mentally prepared for the size. Quickly, still in the "dream state," we were realizing yet more similarities and differences. It was even more obvious here than at the beginning of Main Street. First of all, OMG giant mountain!

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Just what land does the Matterhorn thematically belong to?

Then, Tomorrowland shrunk and was squished up against the hub:

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Whatchu do'n on the ground, Astro Orbiter?

The entrances to Adventureland and Frontierland also had rushed up to greet us, and no Crystal Palace yawned in the corner behind us. A look ahead, and you could walk right through the castle and clearly see the carousel beyond. No giant stage in front.

Now we were faced with a monumental decision: What to do first? I had read many methods of attack on the DIS, and perhaps it's because I can almost go to WDW whenever I want, the determination to have a strict schedule and attendance method just isn't there. Nor is it there for my friends. Our plan was to "do all the things" but we didn't care how long it took us, how many rides we did per hour, etc. I've been amazed at how people diligently use Fast Pass to a certain level of perfect efficiency on the DIS. We approach Fast Pass like this: Long line? Get a FP. The return time during our DL trip didn't matter at all; Star Tours was the only ride that ever ran out during our whole trip. (Preview: Our second day in DL, we got in to the park by opening and got on line for a ST FP; by noon they were nearly gone.)

One of the few rides that was an absolute, do-or-die priority was Indiana Jones, so we made the decision to go check it out and get a FP, as no doubt the line was massive at that point. Off for our first foray into Adventureland--and our first taste of the crowds.

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No bridge cross-over here. I think I like WDW's area better, but I'll explain why later.

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Tiki Room seemed just "put there." We didn't see the show, though. WDW is refurbishing the joke show they had and replacing it with one more faithful to the DL version.

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The Jungle Cruise we went on during our second day, but a note on the weird 2-story queue: Understandable but weird for us!

Now, you may want to start keeping track, because Indiana Jones would become our "curse" for the remainder of our day. This was visit #1 and the ride was down; they weren't distributing FP's either. Ok, no big deal, we'll come back. It was decided to head all the way back to Toontown for Roger Rabbit ... another must-do on our list, since not only do we not have that ride, but Toontown is gone altogether.

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Walking in, with the sky as clear as it was, we remarked how "even the sky looks fake."

RR was a cute, fun ride. Although, it was actually kinda difficult to see what was around you when you were constantly being turned around. At first, I went kinda crazy spinning the car. When I realized this made it hard to actually see the ride, I tried to straighten it out but this was difficult. We walked right on to the ride, too; there was absolutely no wait. Our tried-and-true method of doing all the stuff at the back of the park first was paying off so far.

From there, we bounced around Toowntown and remarked at how much more fun and interactive it was compared to the version we had had at WDW.

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The 80's children that we are (well, 3 out of 4) were thrilled to see Gadget's Go-Coaster. So sad that no one but our generation recognizes her; we're surprised the coaster hasn't been re-themed as result.

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We would've gone inside, but some darn kids were taking up all the space! ;-)

We were pleased that Mickey and Minnie's houses were intact (and Goofy had a residence there, too). They've been evicted in Florida ... and while Minnie's house wasn't available for touring like it was here, Mickey's house was a lot bigger and more interactive. We opted not to see him at the end, though a few of us had been willing.

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Love Pluto's doggy door

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GIANT potatoes!?

I took a ton more photos in Mickey's house. You can see them all in my giant Photobucket album with the other 800 shots I took! Here. We also wandered over to Goofy's house and wondered if he has good car insurance:

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From there, we headed over to Small World. Now, on any normal given day, we wouldn't necessarily be so willing to ride the infamous mind-numbing boat tour. However, as part of our "do all the things" mantra, it was a must. Not to mention we knew DL's was different because of the added Disney characters. So, we were uncharacteristically pumped! It was odd to see the massive facade outside all on it's own, and the outside load/unload area really looked odd to us. We're used to everything under the cover of a roof.

:smickey: DL vs WDW Comparison: Unlike at WDW, nearly all the rides at DLR have queues that are completely outdoors. Much of them also have no cover, and none have fans of any sort. We realized this was due to CA's more tolerable weather. However, the first few days we were there, it was uncharacteristically hot by mid-day and surprisingly humid. Not quite to FL levels, but it was still uncomfortable. Add to the ZERO cloud cover, and we were baking. We wondered what they do when it does rain and bemoaned the lack of shade and fans that are so crucial in FL. If you go in summer, pack an umbrella and/or buy one of those spray fans--outside of the park. Kris bought a cheap umbrella from the hotel gift shop and while it only lasted a day and a half, it saved us when we were trapped under direct sun.

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We loved all the topiaries!

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When I first heard about the addition of Disney characters, I was upset at Disney's need to needlessly remind you that you're at Disney and mar a classic ride as result. But we were very happy with how it was done and wouldn't mind if they did so here now.

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WDW also does not have an America scene, either.

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:smickey: DL vs WDW Comparison: We really liked the differences at DL's Small World. We noted a lot of them, too. For one, the canal is confined to just the path for the boats; you can clearly see an edge, like a plastic pool, and look over the side to dry land. At WDW, the water extends all the way up to the displays ... you can only see the boat path by the metal peeking over the water's surface. This was odd to us at first, but we noted that the scenes are a lot closer to you than they are at WDW. This allowed us to see a lot more detail, which doesn't seem to be at WDW. However, we did notice that in many of the rooms, the scenes were limited to only one side, while a rather plain wall faced you on the other. No doubt this is due to what Walt could do at the World's Fair, and WDW had the ability to expand the scenes (but it seems, cut back on the number of them, too).

Surprisingly thrilled by the differences already experienced with a DL version of what we had home, we made our way back to Tomorrowland. On our way to Toontown, we had picked up a FP for Space Mountain. We were stoked to ride it, after all we had heard about it being superior to WDW's. So, I had high expectations. Again, I marveled at how much like a dream it was to be going through such a familiar area and having it all look different at the same time. Captain Eo was squished in front of SM, and I was reminded of just how much I love Epcot and am glad that it's in my backyard.

I'm not sure I liked DL's SM queue, but we breezed through it due to FP. The shock of seeing the load/unload area in the same spot, as well as the two by two cars was strange. However, upon getting into a car, I immediately wished we had them here. Those bobsled seats are so hard to get in and out of, so it was great to have a much easier time at DL.

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Now, this might shock some folks, but I have to be absolutely honest in saying that I was a little disappointed with SM. I guess I had been so psyched for it to blow WDW out of the water, I was surprised that some aspects of the ride didn't seem as good as they are here. I'll break it down:

Music & Special Effects - There's no question that DL wins hands-down in this respect. Having the music pumping from inside the car, with a superior soundtrack, was awesome. Inside the ride, all the special effects were much more advanced and you honestly could not see a darn thing in the dark. At the same time, the very beginning of the ride seems out of place--if we're taking off, or rather, preparing to, why does it look like we're going through a black hole or something? But that's just being persnickety ... it's still pretty darn cool looking!

Cars - As I said, they are a heck of a lot more comfortable than at WDW.

Ride Track - Now, here is where I was disappointed. At WDW, the beginning is exciting. You zoom around to the chain that draws you up, and at this point you know you're getting ready to take off. Once you're at the top, you've blasted off and begin the swirling decent to the bottom. At DL, it felt like we were going all over the place in the dark preparing to get going. Then you kinda gradually build up speed until finally you're zooming. But at DL, I didn't feel a single drop. In fact, it didn't seem to go as fast to me. There's at least 2 (on the FP side at least) at WDW, and you're being whipped around so hard that you better pray you have a supportive bra on (true story).

Don't get me wrong, I still loved the ride. The overall experience was better at DL than at WDW, but if I could combine the two, then it would certainly be epic!

After Space, and after Myna made the first DL purchase by replacing her broken sunglasses (she tried to go without them but the blaring sun gave her a migraine), we tried our second attempt (#2) at Indiana Jones. Success! The ride was open and we opted to get FP's. Return was for 8:30, though, but we didn't mind. At this point, the crowd crunch in Adventureland was unbelievable. In fact, the crowd dominated in all parts of the park by then, but most unbearably in Adventureland. I learned too late that the area was notorious for this problem. No nice, wide open spaces like at MK.

The pro about the closeness of DL is the closeness of the attractions. It doesn't take you 20 minutes to walk from one side to the other, depending on crowds.

The con about the closeness of DL are the narrow walkways and spaces. 3 of the 4 APs blocked and it was still packed. I felt like I was being choked in some areas.

On that note, I will conclude that we had lunch in New Orleans Square (infinitely better themed than Liberty Square) with bread bowls of clam chowder (hey, you West Coasters can do New England pretty good). Day 2, Part 4 will continue with our first foray into Pirates!
 
Okay, let me get this straight....no Main Street vehicles in the MK and no ToonTown either? What are you going to tell us next? No Mickey Mouse?:rotfl2::rotfl2: Tell me again why I would want to visit this place called Walt Disney World?:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:;)

Seriously, though - I can't imagine ToonTown suddenly vanishing.:scared1: That's odd to say, too, because I started going to Disneyland in 1972 - just plain ol' Disneyland - and got used to that particular 'version' of the park that existed for so long. I was obsessed with the different themes of the lands. So when ToonTown opened in 1993 - a whole new land to enjoy! - my friends and I wondered how we would like it because it seemed out of place. And after we saw it, we were trying to figure out if we liked TT or not. Over the years, of course, I grew to love this land full of bright, primary colors, whimsical, wacky shapes and all sorts of wonderful, hidden Disney details and inside jokes.

In fact, ToonTown is a highlight during the holiday season because of its Christmas tree with oversized, colorful ornaments and 'customized' garland/wreaths strewn about the different facades, i.e., a wreath with dalmatian-spotted ornaments above the fire house, garland with daisies hanging from Daisy's walk-up counter service place, etc.

How long has ToonTown been missing from WDW?

Also, I wasn't aware that your version of It's a Small World does not have the character doll additions? For some reason, I thought it did.:confused3

I've heard many WDW vets say that our New Orleans Square is light years ahead of Liberty Square in terms of charm and theme. I think I didn't appreciate NOS as much when I was a kid, but now I appreciate the beauty of its back alleys and balconies so much more as an adult!

ETA: I think I'm one of the last people standing who actually still enjoys Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin! I remember how hideously long the line for that ride was in its early years, so I love that it's often a walk-on now. (And the Roger Rabbit located above the entry to the ride wears a Santa outfit during the Christmas season!) But many people seem to not like this ride, or just don't care about it, while I think it's better than a couple of the dark rides in Fantasyland. I often wonder if Car Toon Spin would be more popular if it were situated right next to Mr. Toad or something, in the whirlwind of activity that is Fantasyland. The Pooh ride in Critter Country and Monsters, Inc. in DCA often have no lines as well and I wonder the same thing - if they were positioned right in the middle of Fantasyland, would they be more popular?
 
Okay, let me get this straight....no Main Street vehicles in the MK and no ToonTown either? What are you going to tell us next? No Mickey Mouse?:rotfl2::rotfl2: Tell me again why I would want to visit this place called Walt Disney World?:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:;)

How long has ToonTown been missing from WDW?

Also, I wasn't aware that your version of It's a Small World does not have the character doll additions? For some reason, I thought it did.:confused3

I've heard many WDW vets say that our New Orleans Square is light years ahead of Liberty Square in terms of charm and theme. I think I didn't appreciate NOS as much when I was a kid, but now I appreciate the beauty of its back alleys and balconies so much more as an adult!

ETA: I often wonder if Car Toon Spin would be more popular if it were situated right next to Mr. Toad or something, in the whirlwind of activity that is Fantasyland. The Pooh ride in Critter Country and Monsters, Inc. in DCA often have no lines as well and I wonder the same thing - if they were positioned right in the middle of Fantasyland, would they be more popular?

LOL, I know, right!

We had "Mickey's Toowntown Fair" since, I believe, 1989. It was originally just supposed to be temporary as a celebration of Mickey's birthday. This is most likely why no rides or anything were installed: Just Mickey and Minnie's houses, Donald's boat, and a gift shop with the princess and fairies meet n' greets (though I seem to have a memory of the shop being something different in the beginning but can't remember what.) It was so popular they kept the area, and installed Goofy's Barnstormer mini-coaster. But other than the mini-coaster, the 2 houses, gift shop, train station, and toddler playground, there wasn't much to it.

They closed it all down to make way for "Storybook Circus," which is part of the massive Fantasyland expansion they're currently in the middle of. I went with my BF's the last weekend it was open back in March to say goodbye. I joke that they've evicted Mickey and Minnie from their Florida homes. Now, to see Mickey, he has a new meet-n-greet in Town Square. (If you're lucky, Minnie is with him.) They've even installed fast pass to see him, but from what I've been told you never need to use it. I guess no one realizes he's in there just yet.

So the area is being re-themed as a circus, and our Dumbo is being moved there and expanded (2 spinners). The toddler area is being changed to Casey Jr. and Goofy's coaster is being re-themed as "The Great Goofini" ... same ride, different paint. Rumor has it that there's still parts of the area that have not been officially announced. Our Toontown has always been more for the toddler set, but I will miss being able to walk through the houses. Some folks have been making a lot of noise over the houses being torn down and not relocated.

It should all be done by late 2012, hopefully. As much as I'll miss that part of my childhood, I'm eager to see the changes. I just wish there was more emphasis on attractions rather than gift shops, restaurants, and meet n' greets :rolleyes:

As for our Small World ... I think I remember them talking about adding the characters, but for whatever reason they haven't (yet). If they do a good job like they did at DL, I wouldn't mind. They recently did a (stupid) refurbishment and reversed the load/unload area. Now, you enter where you used to exit, and vice versa. I'm not sure what they were thinking because now the line backs up out of the building when it's crowded. My theory is that it has something to do with the new bathrooms they're building in the old skyway station as result of the expanded Peter Pan queue they're going to do.

I wish we had a Roger Rabbit ride here! Though I thought it would be better if the car spun crazy at only certain points versus all the time so you can see everything easier.
 
I last left off with lunch in New Orleans Square and our first foray into DL's Pirates of the Caribbean. Now, this was the second ride I was stoked to experience due to the overwhelming agreement that it was far superior to our version here in Florida. As we got into line, once again I was slightly fascinated with the concept of all the queues being outdoors. I can understand why this may be: Limited space, older designs, lack of necessity. However, to us here in FL, if we see a queue outside, that usually means that omg we're going to wait forever because the line has surpassed its capacity indoors. If I stop and think about it, this would again be my only main complaint about DLR. Not only is hardly any shade provided for when the weather is less than wonderful, but it takes away from the beauty of the buildings themselves.

The entrance to Pirates at DL is lovely and completely different from WDW. Thematically it's different, too. At WDW, you feel like you're entering a Spanish fort. At DL, you're taking what seems like a secret entrance to access the Louisiana bayou. Again, completely different experiences. It was such a shock to walk in to the building and boom! There's the ride! Hardly a few minutes later and you're in a boat. But how weird it was at first to see the filled boats ride through to the load/unload station right along side the queue! I'm not quite sure how I feel about that but hey, different!

Unlike Space Mountain, DL's Pirates did not disappoint in any way. I can confirm that for certain, it is much better than ours here at home. While I did not expect the 2 drops to be so close together, going through the cave and seeing the additional scenes at the end were awesome. I loved the bayou at the beginning and seeing the fireflies. Kris exclaimed that omg she would have loved to have eaten a meal *in the ride.* I explained our reasons behind passing up the experience (expense, mixed reviews). Besides, it's pretty much an identical experience in the Mexico pavilion at Epcot. My only other comment on this version of one of my favorite rides ever is the odd trip back upstairs to the load/unload station. Disney could certainly add more to this dark, plain trip up. Nevertheless, we joked that we would be "taking this ride home" with us back to WDW.

:teacher: WDW Trivia: Apparently, the reason why WDW's Pirates only has 1 drop is because of our water table. Florida's water table is much higher than in California, so the Imagineers could not dig as deep as they could at DLR. Hence why there is only 1 drop. As to why to make the ride shorter than the original? Not sure. I'm only sad that when I ride it again here, it will be with a feeling of lacking!

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The crowds make the wait appear longer than they were.

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BOOM! There's the ride the moment you're inside!

After Pirates, we fought our way through New Orleans Square to our next destination, the Haunted Mansion! I loved how more immersive NOS is compared to the lackluster Liberty Square we have here. The crowds, on the other hand, made it difficult to enjoy the nuances. It's almost like the Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Universal: They made everything so authentic, that it's not very compatible with crowds.

Haunted Mansion, more than any other ride, really hit home with the "close factor" of the attractions. It was also the only ride I didn't like better, or the same as, our version at WDW. There is no arguing that the building is beautiful. But that was part of the issue for me; it didn't look scary at all. Throw in how you could spit over to Splash Mountain, and I dunno. We did take way too many photos of the pet cemetery:

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Yet again in the DIRECT SUN

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The birds looking adoringly up at the cat is a bit disturbing, lol

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I loved the: Here lies my snake whose fatal mistake was frightening the gardener who carried a rake

While I can't wait to return to see all the changes made for the Nightmare Before Christmas overlay, I wasn't impressed at all with the normal version. It's essentially the same as WDW's but with less scenes and some, like the graveyard room, seemed smaller and not as detailed for some reason. If I had never been on WDW's version before, I think it would be a non-issue. But I love the theme of WDW's version better and all the enhancements it has experienced. This was probably the only ride, aside from maybe Space Mountain, that got a critical comparison out of me. My companions, though agreeing with my points, still had no problems--and even insisted on riding it a second time on our second day in DL.

From there, it was time for Fantasyland! We had our first up-close look at the Castle and found Snow White's fountain and wishing well:

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I love all the animal statues

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Has this been here since the park opened? It had the feeling of nostalgia to it.

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Seeing the Wicked Queen peek through the curtains was awesome

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Here we were hit with another reminder of "same but different." First off, all of the rides are right there. Almost to the point where you can't tell at first where one ride ends and the other begins. Each facade is distinct, yet all belong to a theme of an old European village. Considering nearly all the fairy tale stories belong to such a theme, it works. And it looks considerably more distinct than the "carnival" facades still dominant in WDW's FL. I'm hoping that with the expansion, they'll go back and fix this--as they've already changed the theme over Pooh's ride.

At first I thought the carousel was bigger, but that might be because FL at DL is smaller and closer together. The first thing we did was Pinocchio, since we don't have that at all at WDW. I really liked it! It's your typical FL dark ride, though the differences in how DL handles their load/unload areas are the most obvious in this land. At the most, we saw 2 CMs taking care of the ride, while there could be as many as 4 or 5 working the same rides at WDW. We were amazed that only one CM controlled the loading and ride operation, and most people actually listened when told to stay behind the simple yellow line.

After Pinocchio, we did Snow White (shorter but better than WDW), followed by a trip down memory lane with our pilgrimage on Mister Toad. During this period I also had a Mickey ice cream bar (I rarely get these, shocking I know):

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Dumbo is pretty much in the same spot, and the exact same ride. We opted to forgo experiencing it at DLR.

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The "inside" of our Mister Toad was a lot less elaborate but I do remember the huge mural we had--this seems to be a much smaller version

Time for a little story: When I was little, my first real memory of riding Mister Toad was when I was with my parents and when we got into the car (which were much bigger at WDW), they made a big show of allowing me to "drive." I was probably somewhere between 7 and 10 years old (I can't really remember but I was young). Well! When that car took off, I was 100% completely convinced I was really driving the car! I was absolutely freaked out of my wits! I remember feeling like we were going 60 MPH and those trick walls would pop out of nowhere then open at the last possible moment, thinking I was plowing right through them! I turned that wheel every which way, literally screaming at the top of my lungs, while my parents laughed themselves to tears. Let's just say, for a long while, it was not my favorite ride!

I have a lot of memories similar to that, so when I would ride these rides later on in life, I marvel at how sensitive a child I was and how your perception as a child is a lot different from the reality you see as an adult. I honestly can't remember if I rode Mister Toad again after that before they tore it out and replaced it with Pooh (much to the extreme outrage of loyal Toad fans). So, riding it at DL, I was amazed at how less "scary" it really was; how much slower it really was, and how the doors don't really pop out of nowhere! I do remember, though, that at WDW, Mister Toad went to heaven (like in the book) just before you got off the ride. At DL, he's stuck in hell!

The line for Peter Pan was massive; we love the ride, but will never understand why it is SO consistently popular with the longest FL wait. I just, don't get it. I was content to pass on the ride completely during our visit, since we have it here, and we all agreed to move on to another DL exclusive: Alice in Wonderland.

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Loved the Monstro!

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We loved the Fairy Tale Script art! WDW does not have this and we had a fantastic conversation with the artist. As a previous art major, I was fascinated with how she achieved the images. This was one of the only truly unique DL souvenirs we came across, and all of us but Kris bought our names with custom characters. Expensive, but worth it.

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Unique ride set-up. I loved the ride, but the outside area could've been done better.

Waiting for Alice in Wonderland was one of the few experiences with guests at DL that was less than tolerable. I had read a lot on the DIS about how "line cutting" was a serious problem at DLR and more prevalent than at WDW. This was an observation I found to be surprisingly true. I hardly notice people cutting at all at WDW, and the number of families who split up and then try to allegedly re-join their family in line are much higher at DLR. In fact, in nearly every single line we waited in, this happened. It was pretty annoying, actually. Especially when you have folks that go out of their minds, jumping, waving, climbing walls, and screaming to get their party's attention. For the most part, this was really the only annoyance with the public we had (other than the crowds). It was all I could do not to tap their shoulder to say calm down, you can meet them after the 2 minute ride; send them a text to let them know what you're doing. We had to tell several children to get down off of the ledge, or rope, or whatever surface that was not meant to be climbed--all in front of the parents, who were oblivious. Then aside from the young teen who decided to literally lean up against Myna in line (like, her whole body weight as if she were a wall), we had no other problem with the public other than the family behind me waiting for Alice. (Note: Myna was so gobsmacked over this girl leaning on her that she actually stepped aside and the girl nearly went crashing to the ground--then glared at Myna as if how dared she move!!)

This family behind me consisted of 3 children, the oldest of which was 12, and their mother. From the moment they got behind us in line, they were complaining about the heat and the time needed to wait for the ride. I was the last one in line in my group, so I was directly in front of them. The eldest child was a girl, her brother was 10, and I'm not sure how old the youngest was. But all of them fought, bickered, and fidgeted for the entire 20 minute wait. The mother occasionally would tell them to stop then threaten to make them leave the line, but after doing this 5 times her empty threats fell on deaf ears. The 12 yr old was apparently in 7th grade, and had she been in a class I was teaching (I interned for middle school and hope to teach 7th) she would've been sitting by herself in front of my desk! These kids were so ill-behaved, loud, and more annoyingly--they kept bumping into my back and tromping on my heels. I was growing more and more annoyed, and my usual laid-back attitude was growing thinner and thinner. I would look back and give them all pointed looks, then make a quiet comment to my group, but it wasn't until we were nearly next to be on the ride that the mother finally took notice that I was now turning on them with a p'd expression and halfheartedly told her brats that they were bumping in to me. The kids briefly stepped back to actually look at me, but it didn't hold them off for long.

I promised myself that a minute more, the next time I was touched I would actually say something ... and I wasn't sure how polite I would manage it. Fortunately, we were next on the ride, and realized as the ride was ending that that "family" had to wait longer because there was a different family in the car behind us.

I was happy the ride was cool ... short but cool ... I wish we had something like it at WDW. I was even happier I never saw that family again, and it was the only negative tourist experience I had. But honestly, I don't understand some people and what they allow their kids to do ... and how they never do anything about it!

After Alice, we went into one of the many hat shops I saw at DLR. I was happy that nearly every shop had an embroidery machine ... only a few locations do so at WDW. But again, the souvenir of choice appeared to be hats versus plush, and yet I noticed far fewer souvenir hats being worn around the parks than I do at WDW. From there, it was back to Adventureland. Indie was down yet again and we began to worry that we would never get on this ride. Plus, dude, how old is this ride and why was it having so many issues? But we decided to go on the Jungle Cruise. The 2-story queue was interesting, and our skipper wasn't the best, but I loved the minor differences. Not to mention, the piranha part actually made me jump! I wish they would add that here!

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Now, Dixie is a woman on a mission when it comes to Disney. She has a plan in her head and she does not like to be idle. Despite our casual approach to the parks, she powered us through everywhere. From Jungle Cruise, we were back through to Critter Country, where we took a picture of her and "her restaurant" then decided to experience DL's Pooh.

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Loved the honeycomb cars

I agree that DL's version of Pooh is weird. The story makes no sense, while it follows a more linear path at WDW. Plus, was the ride not working right, or do the cars always sway throughout the ride like in the flood scene? That was weird. Still, we ultimately rode this ride twice during our stay.

After a stop in the gift shop, we went to claim our spot for the parade. Now, Dixie and I had been looking forward to this new parade for months. We went looking for our spot with about 40 minutes to go, and most of the good places were taken. We manage to grab a small spot right next to a crossing point on Main Street; I ended up taking Myna back to the Fairy Tale script booth to pick up her order. Dixie and I had picked ours up earlier. When we returned, the family next to us had squeezed down the furthest they could without making it obvious, so I ended up sitting behind my friends and as result, gave my camera to Dixie for good shots. Overall, I loved this parade! I would like something like it to come to WDW. The floats were colorful and the music was great.

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Loved this rose cart--I don't notice the parks selling the light roses anymore; though why they were selling light toys so early was beyond me

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I have a ton more photos of the parade on my Photobucket gallery: here

After the parade, we made another attempt at riding the Matterhorn. Now, here is another observation about DLR: Hardly any wait times. The queue for the Matterhorn was really weird. First, it basically wraps all the way to the back of the mountain, where we finally found a wait sign. The outside queue really does make the wait look longer than it is, though I doubt the sign is changed often enough to reflect the truth since they're not digital and there's no CM supervising it. We noted that at DLR, CMs are not concerned about efficiency at all. According to Dixie, the name of the game at WDW is efficiency and maximizing the number of guests processed through the rides. At DLR, all the CMs were a lot more laid back, hardly concerned about whether or not they've counted the right number of guests that can actually ride, and over all seemed actually happier and friendlier than WDW. And the guests seem equally as unconcerned about wait times or efficiency. We were constantly looking for wait time signs; if WDW did not have them, the usual guest would drop into a fetal position and cry--or pummel the first CM they saw. WDW guests tend to not like waiting -at all-. Dixie has horror stories about irate guests over fast passes and the lack of.


But, we were determined to ride this iconic classic unique to Walt's park, so we waited about 20 minutes to ride the Matterhorn. And we were so glad we did! We rode the Tomorrowland side, and opted out of doubling up in the seats. Just looking at them and knowing that the ride was infamously rough, I commented that "babies were made on this ride." To which Myna replies, "You know when a kid has the middle name of 'Matterhorn'!" I'm glad we did that too, because it really was an insane ride! First, the ride up to the top in complete, utter, total darkness took us by surprise. Then BOOM! You're barreling down and whipped in every possible direction! This was the speed I was looking for! It was incredible fun! Painful at times, but fun! Easily one of my most favorite rides at DLR. I agree it could be a less painful ride--I think if they re-design the seats and smooth out some of those abrupt dips it'll be less of a chiropractic nightmare. This was another ride I proclaimed I would be "taking home."

After the Matterhorn, we caught dinner in Tomorrowland (loved the different choices; had the mahi sandwich) then decided to ride the Storybook Canal Boats. This was lodged as one of those "good idea at the time" scenarios, because we were coming up on our Indie FP's and thought hey, the line looks short let's fill in the time with this. Well, darkness was falling fast but the line was not moving. One of the longest waits we had, it was about 30 minutes or so, and they only had one boat loading at a time. When we finally made it on, it was dark, so we got to see all the scenes with the lights on--which was cool, but bad for photos. Once we were off, we fought our way back to Adventureland.

Enter attempt #3 to ride Indie.

Foiled yet again. We're kept away with yet another apology that the ride was "temporarily" closed.

By now, we're utterly exhausted. It's nearly 9 PM and we had been going strong since 5 AM. That's midnight eastern time. We were nearly ready to accept that we'd have to try again for Indie when we went for our second day in DL on Friday. But we decided to hang around, look in the shop across the salmon run, and see if the ride would open for us before we passed out.

Here's another pro-tip: I generally wear my Sketchers Shape-Ups to theme parks. I have a tricky right knee that likes to pain me after a lot of walking and standing, so they're good shoes for walking. Just not for standing. And we did a ton of both that day. My knee was *killing* me at this point, and since the Alice ride I had been taking my shoes off just to be on flat ground (the shoes' soles constantly has you correcting your balance) while waiting in line. Kris and I found the little sitting area next to the Aladdin's Oasis thing and camped there while the others mingled in the shop. Those shoes were off and I realized that these sneakers are meant for exercising for brief periods and not a marathon of inconsistent walking. I'm going to be investing in a regular pair of sneakers for future theme park visits.

By now, the fireworks were going off. We could see a bit of the show over the enormous trees. Meanwhile, Adventureland flooded with bodies, most coming from the now-ended Fantasmic! (I couldn't get over the people that were camped out in that area since 5 PM. I mean, how old is this show now? Frankly, in my personal opinion, it's not my favorite show and not worth the hassle but hey, to each their own.) Dixie decided to check Indie and see if a 4th time was the charm.

Lo, she ran back: "IT'S OPEN! QUICK! BEFORE IT BREAKS AGAIN!!"

With a surge of adrenaline, we mustered the last of our strength to beeline for the FP queue and gratefully made our way through the 20 minute walk back into the ride, LOL. I thought the FP queue had it's fair share of interactive themeing. When we finally made it to the load/unload zone, our stroke of misfortune with the ride had ended and we were escorted to the front row!

Now, I can't convey just how awesome this ride was. I knew what kind of ride it was and how it was similar to Dinosaur at Animal Kingdom (formally Countdown to Extinction pre-Dinosaur). While I still like the latter (hey, why all the Dino hate?), Indie blew our minds! Being in the front row made it even that much more epic! We absolutely loved it and immediately vowed we would be taking it home and wishing they would remove the tired Indiana Stunt Show and replace it with this ride!

Elated and happy, Indie wrapped up our first day at Disneyland. We returned to the hotel exhausted but looking forward to our first visit to California Adventure and World of Color!
 
I am having lots of trouble today trying to get into threads and post comments. I have no clue if it is because of my browser or computer, or if it's because of trouble with this website. In any case, it's driving me nuts! It took me forever and many attempts just to get into the Trip Reports section and then into your TR! :headache:

Thanks for explaining about ToonTown and IASW at WDW. It doesn't sound like ToonTown at WDW was all that big of a deal and maybe its loss won't be felt too greatly, whereas the TT at DLR is a bigger draw, I think, so it would seem very odd to remove it.

I'm glad you finally made it onto Indy! Yay!

From your description I can't tell if there were any problems with the ride vehicles on Pooh - they always sway, so that doesn't sound unusual. But maybe there was another issue they were having?

You mentioned the annoying family behind you in the Alice line, the kids stepping on your heels, and how some parents just don't do anything about their unruly kids or don't care or whatever. This reminded me of a little voyage on IASW that I took in December 2009. There were 3 adults in the row in front of where my friend and I were sitting. In front of the adults (so 2 rows ahead of us) were some kids. One of the kids reached over the side of the boat, into the canal, scooped up a handful of water and turned around to hurl it...RIGHT AT MY FACE!:mad::mad: Actually I am pretty sure this demon child was trying to hit his mother in the face, but she moved out of the way so that it would hit me. Thank the heavens that my camera and cell phone were out of the line of fire or there would have been hell to pay. But the water got all over my face, on my glasses, on my t-shirt, on my lap, on my bag, etc. I was not amused. All the mom said to me was, "I'm sorry." I grumbled something like, "Good thing my camera wasn't out," or "Good thing my phone wasn't out" - I can't recall - as if to indicate that they would be buying me a new one if it had been out, and her reply was basically indifferent - something like, "Yeah, I know."

My friend, a former bouncer, wanted to hurl the child out of the boat but she resisted the urge.

Don't even get me started about the time a woman backed into me in the Tiki Room waiting area, stepping on my foot and causing my pineapple juice to spill all over my clothes. She apologized profusely and offered to buy me another drink but, instead of following through on this offer, her friends must have convinced her she did nothing wrong and they shuffled her off quickly, disappearing into the masses of people, never to be seen by me again. Nice.:mad:

Yep, there are some rude, obnoxious, inconsiderate people of all ages at DLR, that's for sure!:mad:
 
Thanks for explaining about ToonTown and IASW at WDW. It doesn't sound like ToonTown at WDW was all that big of a deal and maybe its loss won't be felt too greatly, whereas the TT at DLR is a bigger draw, I think, so it would seem very odd to remove it.

From your description I can't tell if there were any problems with the ride vehicles on Pooh - they always sway, so that doesn't sound unusual. But maybe there was another issue they were having?

Yep, there are some rude, obnoxious, inconsiderate people of all ages at DLR, that's for sure!:mad:

Hmm, I didn't have any trouble accessing the site last night--maybe I missed any of the trouble? Anywho, yes, I think the folks that will miss WDW's Toontown the most are the parents who continue to gripe over the demolished character houses. I do agree that it sucks, but I'm used to Disney changing my beloved favorites (and not always replacing it with something better) ...

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Rest in peace, Dreamfinder. :sad1:

Hmm, then that must mean the honeycombs at DL's Pooh ride always sway like they're on water? At WDW, the car moves a certain way during certain scenes. In the flood scene, it sways like it's in water, in the Tigger scene, the car "bounces" ... I don't remember if it moves in the blustery day scene. But then otherwise, the car doesn't move other than forward. That's bizarre :confused3

Other than that one obnoxious, annoying, and rude family, we were very surprised that the other guests seemed more considerate. Or, perhaps they just weren't annoying enough to the level that we would notice :lmao: I personally did not witness the Leaning Teen on Myna; she told me about it later ... she was behind me while waiting for Toad when this happened. My only real complaint about the people were the sheer number of folks who separated and then tried to catch up to their group further up the lines.

Keep your group together, or wait for your party to exit the ride. Your party of 6 has now made my wait that much longer. Not to mention the unnecessary freak out of "HEY! HEY! WE'RE OVER HERE! JOHN? JOHN? JOHN? WE'RE HERE! HEY! HEY!"
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And omg yes, Indie was awesome. I so hope WDW finally retires the ancient stunt show and puts the ride in its place.
 
Great update! I really love reading your comparisons between WDW and DLR.
 
Love your trip report so far. I can't wait to hear what you thought of DCA :goodvibes
 
One thing I forgot to mention in the last update was this about the parade ...

I had said we found a spot next to a crossing point on Main Street--y'know, the place where CMs control traffic from one side of the street to the other. Initially, we figured this location wouldn't be a bad thing. We would soon learn that yes, yes it was. We were seeing the second showing, so the parade was marching up Main Street back toward Small World. We were seated on the side of the crossing point that put it in front of the parade. Normally, at WDW, once you get to a few minutes before the parade gets to that area, the CMs close down the crossing and you're out of luck if you absolutely need to get across before the parade completely passes. So, we were pretty frustrated when the CMs allowed traffic to flow freely at our crossing until the parade was practically on top of us! No exaggeration. But that wasn't the end of it. If there was a gap in the parade sections, they opened the crossing back up, obstructing our view of what was coming. Frankly, I was surprised that such huge gaps existed in the parade--at WDW it's one continuous flow of entertainment. But we were getting really annoyed with the CMs continually interrupting our view.

But now! It's our second full day at DLR, and we allowed ourselves to sleep in a bit since California Adventure didn't open until 10 AM. We decided to grab breakfast at McDonalds; it's really convenient to the Fairfield being in the parking lot. We hit it at just the right moment, for once we had our food and sat down, the restaurant was packed. At that point it was around 9:30. With 10 minutes to spare, we headed off to the unique CA park!

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Myna had grabbed a friendly local elsewhere in the plaza to actually follow us over to the sign so our group photo could be taken. She was sweet, and surprised we were from FL!

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Glad we got some of the last photos of the Golden Gate!

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We opted out of doing Soar'n during this trip since we have the identical version at home; though thought if we caught it with a short line that it'd be worth doing on its home turf. It remained a long wait both days we had visited.

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We called him the "Herpaderp Bear" lol

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I was excited to meet Dug and Russel later!

We were making a beeline to Paradise Pier to get in line for The Little Mermaid, so Dixie marched us back the rest of the steady stream of guests. We were super excited to be able to ride it, since WDW's version won't be done until late next year at the earliest. To say we've already been on it was a bragging right we wanted! To our shock, it was only a 10 minute wait--though in reality we really maybe waited 5.

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We joked that this was like the shrine of Ariel

Overall, I loved the ride. Not sure what people were expecting when they complain about it. It's your typical dark ride, with upgraded animatronics. Though I certainly agree that the areas between scenes are severely lacking in anything to look at which just doesn't make any sense as to why this is the case. It makes the ride seem shorter than it is. We hope that this isn't the case with the version being installed at WDW. We're dreading, though, that they're installing FP at our version when it's not needed at all. It's such a fast loader, it's just going to create longer waits once you have to accommodate FP.

Once we left the ride, we were faced with the same puzzle as yesterday: What to do next? I went photo crazy, and now I know why tourists feel compelled to photograph everything. (We were laughing at this guy on Soar'n at Epcot who was using his huge SLR to photograph everything possible; but secretly I understood him, LOL). Despite not seeing any cars on the track at CA Scream'n, we decided to head over there. But not before hitting Goofy's Sky School:

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We waited maybe 5 minutes again (the park was pretty empty that day) and were climbed aboard. It was fun, though I like Primeval Whirl better at AK. I agree, though, that Disney could have implemented the same kind of coaster with better effects but hey, the concept of the area was "boardwalk" and it fit for me.

From there, we kept going toward Scream'n. I took lots of photos on the way:

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We waited about 20 minutes for Scream'n. I loved this coaster, though it wasn't nearly as intense as I expected. Even the launch wasn't as intense as it seems to be at Rock'n Roller. But I dubbed it the "whee" coaster, because instead of making me scream, it was more like, "WHEEE!" Very smooth, minor G's. It broke Kris' motion sickness threshold, though.

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We passed up Midway Mania since again, we have it at home. Again on the whole "outside queue" thing but at least they made a small attempt with some umbrellas. Instead, after getting a shot of us in the Toy Story box, Dixie and I challenged each other to a duel of midway games!

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I won a mini Bullseye!

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Dixie was out for revenge on the next game!

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She wins a mini-Timothy Mouse!

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We're both triumphant!

Games won, we browsed a bit in the gift shop there (ogling over the few WOC things) then decided to hit up the rest of the boardwalk. We did the Mickey Wheel (aka Wheel of Death) but we chickened out and did the stationary cars (it was a shorter wait, too). At this point, between the full day at DL the previous day and what we had done so far, my knees and feet couldn't take the Shape-ups anymore. Fortunately, I had my flip flops with me (to use for the river rapids ride) and I switched over to them for the rest of the day. Later, a kind CM in a gift shop offered me a bag for the sneakers. We couldn't believe how nice everyone was!

Now, here's a fun fact about me: I had only ever been on a Ferris wheel once before, and that was last February on my birthday at a local church fair. I can do almost all manner of roller coasters and thrill rides, but being in a plane and now on a Ferris wheel makes me a bit nervous. I guess it's the idea that I'm in this little box hanging hundreds of feet in the air. I'm not necessarily afraid of heights--more like afraid of falling out. This did not stop me from ogling at the view! We had a gorgeous cool breeze up there and was able to see everything! Including the enormous mountains in the distance! (Saw these on the coaster, too, and it was sooo cool!)

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I wanted the Pluto car, boo.

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They were testing the jets for WOC while we were riding. I couldn't wait until that night!

From there, we did the rest of the boardwalk rides: Symphony Swings (awesome), Jumping Jellyfish (surprisingly fun--we were the oldest "kids" on that ride), and the Golden Zephyr (a calm ride not worth getting excited over).

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Once we had finished all the rides at Paradise Pier, we decided to go try riding the rapids. It was another scorcher day: Less humid than yesterday, but without clouds, the sun was baking. Naturally the only ride other than Soar'n that saw a long line was Grizzly River Rapids. It was over 90 minutes by the time we made it over there, so we grabbed fast passes. The return was for around 4:30, which was a little close to our 5:30 WOC dinner, but we didn't care. We made our way over to the Aladdin show, as it was another must-see for us and we wanted to make the 2:40 show. We had yet to have lunch, but didn't want a hot dog ... which seemed to be the only major option over there. So I grabbed a souvenir bucket of popcorn (love the WOC image) and the others had popcorn and Mickey pretzels (I cannot convey my outrage that WDW does not serve Mickey pretzels). We inhaled everything while waiting in line to get inside the theatre. Shortly after, we were inside the huge building. We were in the balcony, several rows up from the edge but still had a great view.

The show was just as amazing as I had heard. It really was like a Broadway-quality production! The acting by some of the background performers was a little lackluster, though. Kris commented that "in a state full of dancers, they couldn't find some with more talent?" It didn't detract from the show, however. When the flying carpet scene began, everyone was blown away! Being in the balcony gave us the perfect view, too! Only, once that scene was over... the lights came on and the curtain was lowered. A moment later an announcement was made that stated there were technical difficulties and the show would commence momentarily. So we had a brief intermission before everything resumed, and the Genie (who was hilarious by the way, ab libbed about the whole thing! "How'd you like that intermission? Yeah, I found Nemo, and he was delicious!" How the other actors keep a straight face is beyond me. I wish any of the shows at WDW were anywhere as close to the quality that this one show was.

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From there, we ventured around the area and then rode the Monsters Inc ride after a 10 minute wait. Behold, one of the few rides with an indoor queue! I really liked this ride! It was fun, and the CMs again amazed us with how genial they were. One CM looked at my hat and asked if I was from Fullerton (or someplace like that) and I told him no, Florida. His eyes went wide and he was like, whoa! It's funny, we don't have such reactions at WDW. In fact, you're constantly asked at WDW where you're from. If you're local, the response is almost always a joking eye roll and dismissive wave. I was surprised that hardly anyone asked us that question, and when we were, folks were amazed. Floridians need to go to DLR more often! You locals need to share! After all, we have to share our parks with little perks! LOL

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Everyone loves a bag of sugar, salt, and fat!

Our fast passes were ready for Grizzly RR, so we headed on over. Dixie opted to stay dry and hold our stuff, and after Myna changed into some wet clothes (which weren't necessary ... we hardly got very soaked on this ride) and I wrapped my bum with a cheap plastic poncho, we were on the ride! I thought it was fun, but a lot of time is taken up with waiting for the drops, I felt. The Popeye river rapids ride at Islands of Adventure is a lot more thrilling and gets you so soaked you definitely do need a change of clothes after. But we still had a lot of fun and got a refreshing splash.

Once we were done, we decided to try our hand at the Wilderness Explorers nature trail to try and find Dug. Make sure you ask the CM at the entrance for the map with instructions; he seemed to only focus on the kids. Many of the tasks also involve activities that are pretty much kids only, too. Not that the stakes are high ... you're working for a sticker, after all. But we found some of the tasks hard to do. We never did find Kevin's tracks on our own. During our second day on Saturday, a guide pointed them out to us and they had been staring us in the face but hidden. We also never found Dug, but caught the cute (but one-time-wonder) show with Russel that lasted 5 minutes. After poking about and getting our spirit animals: Kris got a skunk, Myna got a moose, Dixie a wolf, and I got a beaver, we decided to head back to the Animation building.

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We caught aviator Minnie on the way, too! But that photo was not taken with my camera. Boo.

I was impressed with the Animation building. Obviously this was not a former studio, so it was designed just for guests. We did the drawing class first. We vowed if we were drawing Mater, who was on the screen, we would leave (we all dislike Cars greatly). But Myna said, "I hope we draw Mickey" and what did we ultimately end up drawing? Mickey! LOL. Mickey drawn, we went to see the zoetrope, which was amazing!

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We played around in the other areas, focusing on things not available in our own Animation building and then doing those we love, like the voice over meme in Ursula's Grotto. We all animated some bouncing Mickey heads using the spinning devices, which was cool. But time was quickly running out and we needed to start heading to our WOC dinner reservation at Ariel's Grotto. We had our own sound booth in the Grotto, until a family came barging in behind us just as we were about to sing the Unbirthday Song! Talk about embarrassing!

Coming up, Day 3, Part 3: The Wonderful World of COLOR!
 
It was a little early, but we were excited to get to Ariel's Grotto for our WOC dinner. This, along with Goofy's Kitchen, were our big vacation splurges. We knew immediately upon deciding on the trip that we would do one of the meal plans for WOC. After some research, I determined that for the best guarantee of a great spot, splurging on the premium dinner was the way to go. Of course, there were various opinions on the matter, but hey--we were on a real vacation! You do stuff like this, right?

We walked through the cute Bugs Land, which never ultimately inspired us to ride any of the rides but we liked looking at them. We passed Myna's "favorite" attraction, "It's Tough to Be a Bug!" -- as in, not. I've seen it enough times at AK to know what parts to lean forward or pick up your feet, but it's definitely a show I don't need to re-see if no one else is inclined. We also passed by the construction walls for Cars Land. I'll be honest here, I'm glad it's CA getting this and not WDW. Personally, Cars is Pixar's only blunder as far as creativity and story goes. It's strictly a commercial franchise to sell toys and all other products imaginable to boys. (Something the princesses and fairies have sadly become). I was disappointed in Pixar that they actually made a sequel. But hey, to each their own--I understand there are people actually looking forward to the new land.

Walls are something that we're used to, as well. Magic Kingdom is nothing but walls right now, much like CA.

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We loved all the details here!

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I AM N UR BUSHZ, SHAKN MAI FIST

We marched right past everything and headed straight to Ariel's Grotto. We were about 30 minutes early but put our name in anyway. The layout of this restaurant was interesting. The entry was neat, but the lobby area left much to be desired, save for the great 2 story atrium window facing the staircase. I'm not quite sure what was in the room off the lobby on this floor, which was where I expected we'd be directed to go, but apparently the restaurant is on the bottom floor.

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While we were waiting, a family walked in. There were at least three kids, one of which was a toddler. Like much of the toddlers at Disney (in general), she was cranky, tired, and crying. And also just wandering around the lobby on her own with the parents barely paying attention. They talked to the desk, asked for the restroom, then took off down the stairs where they were directed. Only the child was still rolling around on the floor of the lobby. Instead of, you know, picking up the child, the mother first yells at the child to come then finally goes and grabs her by the hand and half-drags her down the stairs.
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Shaking our heads, it wasn't long until we were called to our table. I was surprised at how small the restaurant was! And this is normally a character breakfast? The themeing was great, though a little more sparse than I expected. As we were seated, we noticed the table next to us was, you guessed it, the table belonging to the aforementioned family. I must've been too enthralled with our dinner to come because I didn't notice the drama that was apparently unfolding at their table. Kris and the others overheard that the father was royally ticked off that the dinner was prix fix. Now, mind you, they had a reservation. Even the character meals are prix fix. How they did not know this is a mystery for the ages. The poor waiter was doing his best (this I did notice) to explain things, but apparently it was just all too much or whatever for this family. They didn't get past the bread selection--next thing you know, they're gone. This was to the relief of many, I'm sure. However, another family across the way had a baby who was gleefully SLAMMING a fork or other metal utensil AGAINST HIS PLATE. Of course, the result was an exceptionally loud banging ring. A CONSISTENT BANGING RING. And the family just laughs and nods and claps and ohmygodyou'resocutejunior!

Meanwhile, we're about ready to fling our menus at them.
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Now, one would have hoped that a premium meal such as this one would not attract very many large families. Or, one would hope, that such a premium meal would be a bit more ... premium. But fortunately, by the time we got our appetizer (the seafood one), the noise had ceased. I was convinced, however, that Dixie and Myna were personally going to go over and backhand the adults and take the tools of annoyance away from the child!

The rest of the meal was delicious. I had the tri-tipped steak, and was amazed at how huge the portion was. The rest of my group must've been hungry, because they gobbled their meals down, but I savored and took my time. Now that's what you do on vacation! Besides, I didn't want to incur any stomach upset. Last was the awesome dessert! Our waiter told us that we could get as many refills as we wanted on them, but we barely got through what we had. He laughed that no one ever does get a refill.

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With the bill, came our WOC FP tickets. By now, it's about 7 PM ... or 7:30, hard to remember. Once we paid, we made our way over to the viewing area since my research on the DIS recommended it. I'm glad we did! But before I go into our epic WOC experience, a pro tip on the Ariel's Grotto bill: Apparently they can only split checks in half. We asked if it could be split 4 ways and apparently not. I'm not sure if this can't be done even if you specify ahead of time that it would be separate checks or not.

Anyway, getting into the viewing area of WOC!

We're not even off the pier bridge when we see the massive crowd massing in front of one area. I could see roped off queues and signs everywhere for the different colors. My friends began to panic that OMG, is this the premium meal entrance? For the waiter told us it'd be just off to the left of the bridge. I grabbed a CM, and he explained (confusingly at first) that this was just a "holding area" until they let the people go to their respective colors at 7:30. When I clarified that we were premium, he waved his hand and told us, "Don't worry! You don't have to wait here at all. You'll have no problem getting a spot because so few people are premium. You can come back whenever before the show."

Not quite trusting him, we hung back a bit and poked into the small gift shop with mostly LM things. This way, we were able to see when the crowd was released. As soon as we saw them explode forward (about 10 minutes later), we bolted out. Though, we didn't see the premium entrance. Another CM directed us to the right entrance about half-way down the viewing area. It looked like we had a choice between being directly near the water or on the level up. To our surprise, most of the rail was already claimed.

Except for a spot large enough for 4 adults on the end of the rail.

We make a beeline for it.

A woman, who was standing off to the side, looks at us, then just slides herself into the middle of the space. JUST as we walk up to it. I mean, inches from my face! We literally took a step back and uttered a resounding "whut" bluntly in her direction.
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It's like she was deliberately scoping the spot out, waiting to see if folks would take it, then went in for the kill!

Well! We came across the country to see this show (*cough*) and I was damn well going to have the best seat in the house, thank you very much! I was not going to be foiled by this woman with over 1.5 hours to go! So we squeezed right next to her. Myna ended up having to stand on the steps next to us. The woman looked at us, looked down at a water bottle she had placed on her other side, and said, "Someone else will be standing there." We shrugged at her and proceeded to mark our territory.

Not quite that graphically, no. I surrounded myself with our stuff and parked my butt on the concrete since I wasn't going to stand while we waited.

I'm glad we got our space when we did, because ultimately, the premium section was pretty filled up by the time the show started at 9 PM. Here's an interesting observation: At WDW, most of the shows will give you a countdown at the 15, 10, and 5 minute mark. For WOC, I think they gave a 10 minute mark, but no 5 minute. WDW almost always also gives some sort of audio introduction. WOC just started right into it, but I think that's because the intro is integrated into the show.

Despite the e3vl woman, we had a perfect view. From the moment the show started to the moment it ended, I was absolutely enthralled. Previously, Illuminations at Epcot was my favorite Disney nighttime show (it still is at WDW). But this show blew it out of the water (no pun intended). Sea World, way back in the day, used to have a show similar to this inside of a theatre. I was really small and my parents liked it so we saw it often, but it always bored me to tears. Sea World, in later years, then also did something similar with the water screens using their outdoor lake as a nighttime show with fireworks. WOC was like a combination of the two and then the awesome quotient exploded! I mean, it was just incredible! WHY this show isn't more popular than the others on the DIS is a big mystery to me. Character shows like Fantasmic are great and all, but they have a tendency to be a little kitschy. WOC is simple, focusing on the music that adds just as much definition to the films as the characters, and utilizes a show of technology just as awe inspiring as fireworks.

What was amusing was, of course, the water falling on all of us. We noticed that the area next to the water was labeled as a "splash zone." We figured we'd be OK. It wasn't even that breezy a night. But wet we got. And you would've thought it was acid the way everyone kept screaming! We didn't get soaked (the people up front did) but there was a little worry for the cameras.

When it ended, we just stood there in awe, screaming at each other just how awesome that was and OMG WDW needs to install it NOW because we need to see this show again! If it weren't so much of a hassle, I'm sure we would've tried to see it a second time on our second day.

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We let the massive crowd disperse as much as we could before thinking about leaving. We could see the HUGE crush of bodies pushing their way up the street leading to the front of the park. There was just no way we were joining that. As we get up to the sidewalk, we all thought, hey, let's ride Ariel again! And LOOK, there's no LINE! HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!
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So we walked on to Ariel for our second go! By the time we were off, the crowd had thinned considerably and we caught the tail end of them leaving the park. As we're walking, we see massive crowds of people penned off in different areas. One CM was standing in front of a roped zone off to another side that was FILLED to capacity with bodies. It looked like the freaking beginning of what the run of the bulls must start with. Clearly, these were all crowds waiting for the second showing of WOC. Boy, am I glad we didn't have to be in that.

So my pro-tip to you all: If you have the cash and you're going to see the show during peak season, splurge on the premium meal. You won't regret it! That or see the first show with a regular FP. That second show just proves how good Disney is with cattle.

Our day at CA ended on a very high note. We were still singing, "It's a wonderful world of COLOR!!" by the time we got back to the room!
 
Oh, wow, I can't wait for WOC. I may have to spring for the meal to get that nice viewing area. Lots of good information and good tips. It is so interesting to get the insight on the differences between WDW and DL. Sounds like y'all had a blast!!
 
I'm not close to caught but have to ask about Pooh.

In DL, the vehicle moves gently. Bounces with tigger, surges in the floody place, and sways when it's windy.

In MK does it not move like this? Last time I road there I though not, but it's so gentle maybe I was expecting more movement.
 
I'm not close to caught but have to ask about Pooh.

In DL, the vehicle moves gently. Bounces with tigger, surges in the floody place, and sways when it's windy.

In MK does it not move like this? Last time I road there I though not, but it's so gentle maybe I was expecting more movement.

Perhaps the version at DL wasn't working the way it's supposed to, because there was only one movement throughout the entire ride. It swayed from the first scene to the last. At WDW, the movement corresponds with the theme of each scene, so it sways, bounces, and rocks. I know the DL version wasn't working at 100% because some of the figures that move weren't moving.
 
While one may desire to take the remaining days of such an intense theme park visit slower and easier, the result of our second day in Disneyland park ultimately did not turn out that way.

It is my conclusion that Star Tours at DLR is incredibly more popular than it is at WDW. I'm not quite sure why, since they're identical and brand spanking new. When we went to Hollywood Studios a week after we returned from our DLR vacation, we encountered a 30 minute stand-by time for Star Tours at 4 PM on a Monday and a FP return time only 30 minutes from that point. The other big rides (Toy Story, Rockn Roller, Tower of Terror) all remained at at least 60 minutes or more.

But our experience during our first day at Disneyland told us that if we wanted to do Star Tours, we had to get a FP as soon as the park opened. So, our mission was clear: Wake up early and get to the park by rope drop.

To be honest, I would not have minded skipping the ride since it's the same at WDW. However, all 4 of us really wanted to do the Finding Nemo subs and we knew that to avoid the ridiculous wait, we had to go early, too. So while only Dixie and I wanted to ride ST, the early entry afforded us a near walk-on for Nemo.

We grabbed breakfast at McDonald's again since it was quick and cheap. I opted for a "healthier" option of yogurt and juice. By the time we made it to the DL gate, the park had opened and we were in Tomorrowland (with the rest of the world) by 8:05. Stand-by already had a 45 minute wait and the line for FPs was long, but moving.

:smickey: DLR vs. WDW Observation: I can't remember if I mentioned this already, and forgive me if I have, but here's an interesting fact about the way you obtain a FP at DL vs. WDW. It's something that really confused us at first. At WDW, you have to stick your entire ticket into the machine like an ATM. After it chews on it for a second or so, it spits it back out and your FP drops into the tray below. At DL, you simply insert your ticket and pull it back out and viola, the FP drops into the tray. It's a few seconds faster. We kept jamming our tickets in at first, wondering what was wrong until the FP popped out. Once we figured out that this was the way they worked at DL, we came to prefer their system a lot more.

As soon as we had ST FPs in hand, which had a return for 10:05 AM (it was now 8:30), we zoomed over to Nemo. To our triumph, there were only a dozen or so people ahead of us in line. It's no wonder this is a ridiculously slow loading ride, because they only had one load/unload dock open and as it was, we waited about 10 minutes or so.

At WDW, like at DL, we had the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Submarines too. While my parents claim they took me on the ride, I don't remember it at all. Trying to remember, I can't even remember the ride when it was operating. I just remember the abandoned lagoon that was then turned into a character meet-n-greet, then into the Pooh playground, and now completely wiped out and being covered over with the new expansion. So it was a big deal to me that we make it on this ride.

Finally, down below we went. I thought it was ridiculously neat. Not something I would wait much longer than I did for, but certainly something I would ride when crowds were low without question. I liked that you have your own seat and your own window, and we were all surprised at how long the ride is ... and the special effects were cool, too. Very similar to some of the technology used at our own Nemo ride at Epcot (I still miss the original Living Seas, though). My only complaint would be the children directly next to me not making up their minds about sitting down or standing up, so the chair would flip loudly closed again over and over in the tiny sub. The kids could have easily just stood the whole time ... but the mother kept pushing the chair back down and sitting them there. I don't blame the kids for wanting a closer look, so mom should've given up.

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Today was our day to do everything that we had missed on Wednesday, then do some re-rides on the favorites we had time willing. Keeping to our mantra of "do all the things" and waiting for our ST FPs to clock in, we went next door to ride the Autopia. The Speedway at WDW is nothing compared to the original Autopia at DL. We rarely, if ever, bother with the Speedway because the line is always long and the track isn't the most exciting. I've only bothered if I have my young niece with me and want to give her a thrill. From the start at Autopia, though, it was very different. We were given honorary Autopia "drivers licenses" which was incredibly cute. The car styles are more varied, and the track is very long and diverse. I had a lot of fun, and knowing it was original back to 1955 made me feel like I was fulfilling some Disney fan rite of passage, or something.

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Driving and taking photos ... not something safe outside of the magic of Disney

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When we were done, it was time for Dixie and I to ride ST with our FPs. We gave our park tickets to Myna and Kris for them to grab us FPs for Space Mountain and told them to meet us in Star Traders (we have a Star Traders at WDW, funny 'dat). We still ended up waiting 10 or so minutes before we were on our starspeeder. I wasn't sure about the 3D at first (I think the market is being over-saturated by 3D) but was pleased with how subtle it is on the ride. The update was long overdue and it was very well done while still keeping to the original. We had a spy drone ask for the rebel spy, the Wookie planet, Princess Leia, the Gungan city on Naboo, and a fly-through of the Death Star. I love how it's different every time you ride, but with all the grief of riding at DLR, we are content with riding it at home.

After we got off the ride, stand-by was over 2 hours and FP return was for 11:30 PM. O.O Just don't get it! I guess 'cause it's the only other major ride other than Indie and the mountain coasters? Or SoCal is more SW crazy than FL?

Once we hooked back up with the rest of our crew, we made our way to Fantasyland for our other (and last) major priority for the day. Rapunzel and Flynn Ryder's meet-n-greet.

To see these two at WDW, you pretty much have to give up your entire day to make it happen. They also have their meet on the storybook stage, so the tower room at DLR is so much more appropriate and neater. We've tried many times to see them at Magic Kingdom, only to face 90 minute waits already capped off. 'Cause at WDW, they cap off the line, regardless of how much time you have before the scheduled appearance. So if their X amount of people are already in line 90 minutes before the scheduled appearance, you're out of luck. Dixie and I are fans of the characters (Dixie a lot more so) while Myna and Kris generally won't bother unless it's a short wait. Rapunzel was the only exception we made for this trip. Besides, it was even more imparative that we see them at DL, because for whatever bizarre and ridiculous reason, as of July 3rd of this year, Flynn no longer makes appearances at WDW.

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... Yes, Flynn. You're dead to the World.

So this was our only chance for a photo with both characters. Thanks to the DIS, I knew we needed to be in line early. My memory as far as times go is not very clear at this point. I know we also fit in the Buzz Lighter Astro Blasters in (I like our version better, but I love that the guns are not bolted to the car) at some point after Nemo and before ST. Because I know we had at least 50 minutes before 11 AM when the meet opened by the time we made it to Fantasyland. We didn't see anyone else waiting, so we thought hey, let's ride the Casey Jr. Train.

This was our second "good idea at the time" decision. We ended up waiting 15 minutes, and this was another case of DL not caring about whether they've counted correctly in letting people through the line. We were the second group allowed to board the train, and we wanted the caboose. But somehow, and we don't know how this happened, the caboose was instantly taken and before we could decide where else we'd fit, the train was full. We were left standing there, confused. The ride attendant was apologetic, told us to stand in the exit area, and we would have first dibs on the next train after 2 or some minutes. All this time, we kept trying to look at the Tangled queue to see if anyone had lined up already. Finally, we boarded first on the next train, got our caboose, enjoyed the scenery since we couldn't see it in the dark clearly for photos on the Storybook Canal boats, then as soon as we were off we got in line for Tangled.

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What a cute little ride! Too bad the young kids have no idea who Casey Jr. is ... they need to re-release Dumbo again.

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We found the old life preserver amusing for a train ride.

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When we got to the Tangled queue, those precious minutes we spent on the train allowed a boat-load of people to get ahead of us. Here's your pro-tip, make sure you get in line for Tangled at least 40 minutes ahead of time. Yes, you're waiting 40 minutes, but then once the meet is opened, you don't have much longer to wait. Because by 10:30, there were over 30 or so people in line. It's like they all arrived at once.

Then the torture began.

Bring an umbrella and a fan if your day is sunny, cloudless, and hot. Because that's exactly what it was. There was ZERO shade, unless you were lucky to be under the eaves of the tower and around the back. The queue is tightly wound so you're in close quarters with the crowd around you. And since the meet hadn't opened yet, that meant standing still in the direct sun and baking for at least 30 minutes. I knew Myna was cooperating because she loved us, and I know she wanted a photo, too, but she let it be known this was the one and only time. Heck, this was a one and only time for me, too. No way would I otherwise be willing to wait in such conditions for so long. Kris had her cheap umbrella, so we huddled under that and turned maps into makeshift fans. I saw one guy with an infant in one of those baby carriers you wear on your belly and I felt SO bad for the child being in all that padding and directly against his/her father's body. I'm sorry, that is NOT acceptable. Him putting a blanket over the child to block the sun, I'm sure, just made it worse. Your child will NOT remember this experience and nothing is worth risking the health of your child. How stupid.

CMs would periodically yell out to those of us in the queue, reminding us what we were waiting for and that it was "not a ride." I can understand the confusion, since the rides are on top of each other there and the exits are not marked. Every time this announcement was made, a family or two would leave the line. More would leave when we were told the approximate wait. Where we were standing, we were being told an hour after the meet opened. Those at the end of the line were looking at over two hours.

So this whole time, I'm expecting this to be a top-notch experience. We'd chat, play around, take photos, etc. Hence why it's such a long wait. Ok. One-time only thing. We'll deal. And we did. Finally, FINALLY, we're allowed inside. This was about 30 minutes after the meet opened, so not nearly the hour we were warned about. Perhaps this should've been a sign?

I reiterate again on how it can be a little awkward as adults around the characters. In this case, what do we do first? Chat? Hug? Pose? Four people suddenly felt like a lot of people. I joined Dixie over by Rapunzel, while Myna and Kris chatted with Flynn. The next thing I know, we're lining up for a photo with the characters at either end. I guess I had hoped for more direction from the Photopass guy. Or perhaps more interaction from the characters, but after several shots (half of which are terrible) by the PP guy, we sorta broke apart; Rapunzel asked Dixie and I what we were going to do that day. We told her Space Mountain next and she asked if we had our frying pans to battle aliens. After a minute or so more of frying pan banter, with Flynn popping over to us, looking a little out of place, we were escorted out.
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I realized too late that, hey, I wanted individual shots of us with the characters. I was really disappointed that the two particular characters and the Photopass guy seemed disconnected with interacting with just adults. The family ahead of us got a lot of different shots and one-on-ones within their group. I should have requested it. But heck, at this point, way too late. No way would we be repeating that wait.

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All our Photopass photos look just like this one, or else they show half the ceiling. Really disappointed.

From there, we were starving, so it was off to fulfill yet another requirement of this DLR vacation: Corn dogs. WDW is lacking in this signature DLR food, and after hearing so much about them, I made it a mission. (My other mission also involved the potato soup at the Carnation Cafe, but alas, that did not come to pass.) By now, it's close to noon. We got our lunch (those corn dogs really are awesome) and sat in the shade at Coke Corner.

The only other thing scheduled for this day was for me to meet up with a friend from the internet, whom I have known for several years now but have never met. She's also coming to WDW for the first time in October, but I'm glad to be able to meet her on her own turf first. We were set to meet at 1 PM, but I texted her to let her know that if she was around, why not meet us now? She happened to be over at California Adventure and said she was on her way. Once we met up, we decided to wander up Main Street to see the Mary Blair exhibit and then hit Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln. All the while, my online friend, Dana, clued us in to a lot of DLR trivia.

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From there, we decided to get FPs for Indie ... but the curse struck again! Geez, this ride obviously couldn't stand the heat and the crowds because it was down more than it was open. We passed it up and spawned our way upriver ... er, made our way through the Adventureland crowd up to Tarzan's Treehouse. It's still the Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse at WDW (and NO ONE knows what that is anymore) so it was neat to see the Tarzan scenes. There didn't seem to be as many scenes as the SFR Treehouse, though.

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From there, we decided to head over to the castle to have a group shot, since we couldn't think of something else at the moment. On the way, we took photos of various things, and this brings us to ... dun dun dunn ... Disney Ducks!

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We have an amusing story about Disney Ducks. Probably about 5 years ago now or so, we were at Not-So-Scary and riding Big Thunder Mountain (at WDW). As we start to turn into the station, we're passing all the geysers, and suddenly, someone in my group shouts: THERE ARE DUCKS IN THE WATER!

Someone else shouts, "ARE THEY REAL?"

To which we all turn, confirm, and shout: "THEY'RE REAL!!!"

It was so hilarious at the time, from that moment forward, any live duck on Disney property has been confronted with: "DUCKS! THEY'RE REAL!" I mean, I guess we were so surprised that ducks would hang out in the middle of a noisy and startling ride--normally any animals you see are fake! So we confirmed the DLR flock was real and took photos as evidence.

But by the time we reached there, the FP guy was packing up, saying a band was coming through. Dana confirmed that oh yeah, the Mary Poppins band comes out to that exact spot and she and Bert usually dance along to the band music. Sure enough, a moment later, the band comes through, sets themselves up right there (no obnoxious stage to stare up at) and soon Mary Poppins and Bert show up. It was a really cute show and I wish WDW did more of this.

You'll have to wait for photos! Alas, photo limit! Stay tuned for Day 4, Part 2: National Beard Day
 













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