Early Entry... Do you really need it??

[doggy]

Once again Disney makes yet one more poor business decision.....Why in the world did Disney wait until Oct 1st to bring the EE mornings back? What happened to the summer months and the hot temps and using EE mornings. After watching the news about the stock holder meetings and questioning Eisner and his business smarts. I would have to wonder who is making the decisions for these types of things. Would it not have made much more sense to bring back the EE mornings during the so-called peak months and HOT months to help those of us that would like to beat the crowd and heat???

 

[raidermatt]

So you saying that an "extra" 2000 people in the park can make the crowds so bad that in the advice of most guide books you should get out of there by noon and high-tail it to another park or your hotel?

Considering that's at least a 5% bump on an already busy day, as much as a 10+% bump on a slower day, then I'd say yes, it is enough to recommend bailing. Considering guidebooks emphasize maximizing use of time, why would they recommend staying in a park whose attendance is inflated by 5-10% when the other three parks have their attendance deflated by 2-4%.

I still have to maintain that as out of touch as some portions of management are, they are still capable of reading an attendance figure.

Certainly, however, they can completely mis-interpret what it means.

I don't see why this is such a problem for you, Europa. 40k is a pretty busy day at MK, and that means 40k came through the turnstiles at some point, but there's not 40k in the park at a given time. Also, some of them are shopping and eating at any given time. Do you really think 10k could storm in all at once, head for the rides, and still not result in any kind of significant lines?

Regardless of how many people actually went through, its still doesn't matter, though. What mattered was that EE was a significant deciding factor for guests when they made their lodging decision, and WDW didn't get that.

They screwed up.

Geez, its not like I'm defending them. I'm just trying to look at the situation objecively...

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by doggy
Once again Disney makes yet one more poor business decision.....Why in the world did Disney wait until Oct 1st to bring the EE mornings back? What happened to the summer months and the hot temps and using EE mornings. After watching the news about the stock holder meetings and questioning Eisner and his business smarts. I would have to wonder who is making the decisions for these types of things. Would it not have made much more sense to bring back the EE mornings during the so-called peak months and HOT months to help those of us that would like to beat the crowd and heat???

Doggy,

Doesn't "better late then never" fit here?

Or are you upset since it wasn't there on your trip?

 

[Cindy B]

Yes, I used EE quite a bit.

We are very early risers (6 am is sleeping in for us!), so to be at the parks early was not a big deal. We used it to the fullest extent either park.

And when the crowds filtered in, we would leave.

 

[EUROPA]

Originally posted by raidermatt
I don't see why this is such a problem for you, Europa. 40k is a pretty busy day at MK, and that means 40k came through the turnstiles at some point, but there's not 40k in the park at a given time.

Mainly its such a problem because people keep saying like it was true or something. It's my contention that there is no way in hell that the average guest could tell if there were 2000 more people in the Magic Kingdom.

Don't ever go at Chrismas then...because there are 40,000 + in the MK at one time and I think they all do try to get on the rides at the same time.

They screwed up.

Yep got that right.

Geez, its not like I'm defending them. I'm just trying to look at the situation objecively...

But you are...Why is it we trust AV when it comes to other things but on this we don't? He has said several times that EE was heavily attended. Sure not everybody used it but it was heavily attended. He has also said many times that removal of EE was not due to the lack of attendance. IT was money driven pure and simple.

 

[cindyfan]

I agree with DisneyKidds all the way!
We never really changed our wake up times, just adjusted our plans for the day.
And we REALLY MISSED EE when we were there in June!!
We will definitely take advantage of it in Oct

ONe think that I really notice is that without EE the "flow" of people into the parks was just CRAZY!!
With EE ..... no, not everyone entered at 8am, but rather kinda flowed steadily in for the early hour.
W/O EE.......the MASSES of people all tried to enter at 9am! It was like watching cattle being herded. They all walked together as one mass down Main Street, or down towards Spaceship Earth!!!

And with the later hour at AK..........YIKES!! We will definitely be there for EE in Oct!! That park was not designed for the "masses" to all enter at the same time.
Plus.....9am is just too late to be entering a park that has live animals!! The safari at 9:30am is a huge difference than at 8am!!

They have realized the error of their ways and re-instated EE...it is a GOOD THING!!!

Now they just need to realize that we need MK open after sunset!! Closing at 6pm in Oct is just Nuts!!!

Thanks to WDW for correcting their mistake!!!

 

[Disneycrazymom]

My family will use EE at MK. For the little ones, who get up early anyway, it is wonderful to have Fantisyland to yourself in the morning. Then Toontown to yourself the 2nd hour. We have been 3 times this year and really missed EE at MK.

I wonder if this will fill the resorts again? I would guess that some guests that went off-site found that they enjoyed the bigger rooms and better prices and will continue to book off-site and go to the park that had EE the day before. We never went off-site but did switch to the Swan. I can't imagine staying anywhere else now.

 

[BCVOwner2002]

DH & I always enjoyed EE. Since we are early risers this gives us one more reason to enjoy the parks early and take a mid morning/afternoon break from the hot summer sun. Hope they keep this going until we are there again next June! Annmarie

 

[Luv2Roam]

I think lack of EE is one issue that clogged up the POR bus system in the morning too. I think they had twice as many people trying to get there than they anticipated. And it seemed to only make most guests frustrated and mad.
I am just using POR as example, as I am sure it made a large difference everywhere.