DVC should be PRIORITY 1!

[Sandisw]

In theory, DVC is deluxe.
That said, I don’t think they would put certain folks in second or third class.
On site, is on site IMO. Doesn’t matter if you’re GF suite or Allstars.

or Allstars

Exactly. One thought I had is whether they may try to do resort specific days into parks, especially if they go with a more virtual que.

For example, X resorts go to MK Monday, while Y resorts go to Epcot, etc,

Just to spread out onsite guests? Would mess up FP plans made already, but they would have a better idea based on occupancy.

 

[Matty B13]

Just to spread out onsite guests? Would mess up FP plans made already, but they would have a better idea based on occupancy.

During Phase 1 opening limitations, would they even have the FP system running? or would it go back to the old days of just standing in line with no FP's

 

[Sandisw]

During Phase 1 opening limitations, would they even have the FP system running? or would it go back to the old days of just standing in line with no FP's

I think they will do away with FPs. but they are letting people make them still so I don’t know.

 

[Matty B13]

I think they will do away with FPs. but they are letting people make them still so I don’t know.

I wonder how many people are waking up to jump on at 7 am to get them..... then they will find out they didn't need to.

 

[sethschroeder]

I wonder how many people are waking up to jump on at 7 am to get them..... then they will find out they didn't need to.

Honestly I could see certain rides going only FP+/Digital Line to start. There are more than a few rides that use that snake style queue which I have to think will have to be skipped and not filled.

I will leave that for a different thread though.

 

[Pineapplepaul]

I think you missed the point. Somebody else's money will just replace yours (and probably with more, at least for a while) with what's spent after the sale at WDW.

If you sell your contract on the resale market, DVC doesn't get anything.

i think that wrong. All the perks that resale buyers lose do have a monetary value that were already paid for by the original buyer. This in turn lowers Disney’s cost to fund these perks.

 

[crisi]

I am not saying me, I am not threatening anything. I am specifically talking about future growth of DVC which is going to add millions of points to the pool.

6 Million Points for Riviera left
15-18 Million Points for Reflections
5-7 Million Points for Disneyland
26-31 million points over 6

In 2001 Disney halted construction on several resorts that they broke ground on and they just sat there until the time was right to build them. Disney has announced and then not built several DVC resorts. If they don't feel the market is there, they won't build the resorts. And yes, it will cost them in bottom line, but DVC is a small portion of Disney's overall business model. They have parks to worry about. They'll need to get people into theatres again when its safe. There are cruise ships. A Star Wars themed hotel. Each one of Disney's business units are going to have a similar problem - and with DVC they have the advantage of just being able to halt construction and not expend the capital until the market improves. They have things that they need the return on capital on because that money has been spent and there is debt out there for it - three cruise ships. Park changes with Pixar and Star Wars. - With about 20% of Riviera sold, at least some of that capital has been recovered (that's about $250M in recouped capital - it isn't likely that construction cost much more than that) - not the case at all with the new ships or the Star Wars hotel - and they can back off on spending any more on Reflections and the announced Disney resort. And LAX is right - Riviera sales will slow - partly just due to the economy, partly because people are recognizing the risks of OWNING A TIMESHARE (it only took a pandemic, I always thought it would be a terrorist attack or mass shooting), but they won't stop. Too many people snort pixie dust.

 

[Brett Wyman]

I have a very strong feeling IF there are restrictions on who can attend early on DVC will be on the allowed list. They BADLY need members to start burning through points.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

The virtual queue for more rides is definitely being speculated about.

 

[sethschroeder]

In 2001 Disney halted construction on several resorts that they broke ground on and they just sat there until the time was right to build them. Disney has announced and then not built several DVC resorts. If they don't feel the market is there, they won't build the resorts. And yes, it will cost them in bottom line, but DVC is a small portion of Disney's overall business model. They have parks to worry about. They'll need to get people into theatres again when its safe. There are cruise ships. A Star Wars themed hotel. Each one of Disney's business units are going to have a similar problem - and with DVC they have the advantage of just being able to halt construction and not expend the capital until the market improves. They have things that they need the return on capital on because that money has been spent and there is debt out there for it - three cruise ships. Park changes with Pixar and Star Wars. - With about 20% of Riviera sold, at least some of that capital has been recovered (that's about $250M in recouped capital - it isn't likely that construction cost much more than that) - not the case at all with the new ships or the Star Wars hotel - and they can back off on spending any more on Reflections and the announced Disney resort. And LAX is right - Riviera sales will slow - partly just due to the economy, partly because people are recognizing the risks of OWNING A TIMESHARE (it only took a pandemic, I always thought it would be a terrorist attack or mass shooting), but they won't stop. Too many people snort pixie dust.

Which goes back to my point that they are not going to purposely damage DVC by not having them in the initial group when things reopen.

What have they done since 2001? Built Pop Century/Pop Century Phase 2 (AOA), business targeted Gran Destino, and a whole lot of DVC. As far as Star Wars its not directly a hotel but an experience.

As far as people buying DVC in the future it will still be a thing as long as Disney does not harm the name of it directly. There is cost savings and you can leverage the program in the way to remove much of the risk (borrowing, traveling in the first 1-3 months of your UY, ect).

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I think too much credit is being given to the research process of the average direct buyer.

 

[waltfan1957]

I have a very strong feeling IF there are restrictions on who can attend early on DVC will be on the allowed list. They BADLY need members to start burning through points.

This would be the main reason, not that we are more entitled than any other onsite guests, it's this entitled mentality that gives DVC owners a bad name.

 

[crisi]

I think too much credit is being given to the research process of the average direct buyer.

Most of them snort the dust and then say "where should I sign."

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Most of them snort the dust and then say "where should I sign."

The number who think DAH is the same as Moonlight Magic and get upset because MM is not offered on the frequency of DAH and DAH costs money.

The number who are baffled that their direct points at RIV don't give them any advantage at getting BWV Standard at 7 months.

The number who are absolutely horrified when they try to book a cruise on points to learn what it costs.

 

[Tigger1]

When WDW re-opens, Any person who is a DVC member should be the priority, not just given "credit" for closure of the resorts and parks-- even more so than Florida residents. I know this may sound harsh but there is quite a bit of money "spent" by DVC members every year. In a related point made, not sure why Florida residents get "PERKS" on discounted park tickets more so than DVC members, to me that's not right. DVC members would attend the resorts and parks more often if tickets wouldn't be so pricey...any other thoughts that could be shared?

 

[Tigger1]

I say guest with hotel reservations should get priority. We have had those reservations for some time and can not go as easily any time of the year as Florida residents that drive to parks. DVC should get priority as we have an investment for stays with Disney.

 

[mustinjourney]

I think they will do away with FPs. but they are letting people make them still so I don’t know.

about a month ago -- they weren't allowing me to make FPs for end of May for any headliners -- just second tier stuff (IASW, Dumbo, muppets) -- but June 1st and after was wide open with the exception of BTMRR (never saw an opening for it). Don't know what to make of that...but that's what I saw.

 

[RoseGold]

No way. When WDW re-opens the first priority has to be the parks. No reason for anybody to go there until then. After the parks, you need things like restaurants. After that, resorts (including DVC).

My worst case scenario is actually opening DVC with parks still closed. There's no reason they couldn't open these hotels with 25% pool capacity and a kiosk with some sandwiches and trap you in your room. With how badly Disney has handled DVC through this, I can totally imagine it.

But they've been pretty indifferent about watching our points burn while they keep collecting dues. So why not let them be last to open? Disney already got the money in January, so who cares about your points?

 

[marcyleecorgan]

DVC owners = Florida residents
except FL residents actually put up with living in FL year-round.
why should DVC get first priority? ;-p

 

[Tigger1]

DVC owners = Florida residents
except FL residents actually put up with living in FL year-round.
why should DVC get first priority? ;-p

DVC owners = Florida residents
except FL residents actually put up with living in FL year-round.
why should DVC get first priority? ;-p

What is so bad about living in Florida. It i s a dream for many to live in Florida?

Not all DVC members live in Florida. For us it is over 1300 miles away. That makes it tough to reschedule VACA.
I would think it would be hard to justify allowing non-DVC resort rooms to guest when DVC members do not get reimbursed for canceled reservations.