DVC point price increase..

[DisneyMomOK]

According to my guide, there is no such thing as a wait list for adding on points. Your guide may keep a private list, but it's not official through Disney.

I was on the "official" wait list for several months last year, until I finally received my BWV points. According to my guide, whom I repeatedly bothered until I finally got the points, he would "check" with a woman in the DVC offices who let him know how many were in front of me on the "wait list". This was about 8 months ago, so things could have changed, but for the sold-out resorts, there was definitely a wait list last year.

 

[3guysandagal]

Technically, wasn't the price already at $104--just that you had an $8 (AKV) or $10 (SSR) discount per point? Has anyone bought any of the other resorts directly from Disney in the past few months when the discount for AKV/SSR was in effect and if so, how much did you pay per point?

Good point.

 

[Melrosgirl]

Interesting. Well you know they'll do a price discount (some $10 promotion, etc.), so it's really not that much of an increase. In any case, I have been thinking of possibly selling a BCV contract. I might wait a little bit until this goes into effect (and ask for a higher price).

 

[Boston5602]

Remember any discounts off the price are only for the " new " resorts , not any of the sold out ones . you pay full price for BWV , and BCV and such.

 

[JLitfin]

Does anyone know if DVC will honor the current price for everyone who is on the wait list to add on points even though the price is due to go up soon?

When I was on the wait list for my points, I was told that if there is a price increase while waiting for my points, than I would be charged the new price for my points.

 

[tammymacb]

If I can close before April 1st, my BWV points will be $98.00 after that they're $104.00.

Bernard said even if I'm waitlisted for my UY points, as long as I've closed and waiting, I can have them for the original points.

I specifically asked if this was an across the board price hike. He said yes, with the exception of HH and VB they are still $92.00, I didn't ask for a further breakdown.

 

[ebenmax]

Technically, wasn't the price already at $104--just that you had an $8 (AKV) or $10 (SSR) discount per point? Has anyone bought any of the other resorts directly from Disney in the past few months when the discount for AKV/SSR was in effect and if so, how much did you pay per point?

The price has been $104 for SSR and AKV but the sold-out resorts are different prices. . .BCV - $101. . .BWV & VWL - $98 etc. So as it appears the sold-outs ones are going up. So does that mean that SSR and AKV will increase by $3 or $5, too?

Also, as mentioned earlier, the incentive discounts do not apply to sold-out resorts just the new ones.

 

[disneynutz]

I guess DVC has no regard for the state of the economy. I would think one of the last things people could justify spending more money on is pre paid vacations. The state of the U.S. dollar seems to be of no concern to Disney. I guess park ticket prices will be next. Is Disney completely unaffected by the slowing economy, rising oil prices, declining stock market, etc.? How was Disney effected after 9 - 11? I wasn't really into WDW then as I am now.

DVC has no regard for the state of the economy because people keep buying and going to the parks. Should purchases and park attendance slow down, they will adjust prices/incentives to boost their revenue.

 

[jcf]

I have done add-on during a price increase. Once you give them your CC for deposit you are locked into the old price unless it takes more than 12 months to get the points.

If your guide is telling you a different story get rid of them. My guide is one of the "old timers" and been with DVC since nearly the beginning.

 

[TisBit]

I guess DVC has no regard for the state of the economy. I would think one of the last things people could justify spending more money on is pre paid vacations. The state of the U.S. dollar seems to be of no concern to Disney. I guess park ticket prices will be next. Is Disney completely unaffected by the slowing economy, rising oil prices, declining stock market, etc.? How was Disney effected after 9 - 11? I wasn't really into WDW then as I am now.

You have to remember WDW and DVC both are not solely intended for the "US" market. Canadians will find now being a great time to buy DVC with teh current exchange rates, as will people from the UK. Both of these areas are huge patrons of WDW and can easily help keep Disney afloat during down times in the US economy. They can merely shift their marketing to those that come from the UK and Canada, to help fill resorts and spur sales in DVC.

Also, don't forget that while the Economy may be down, there are always industries that are up. This can also be a market for Disney to tap.

 

[stopher1]

DVC has no regard for the state of the economy because people keep buying and going to the parks. Should purchases and park attendance slow down, they will adjust prices/incentives to boost their revenue.

Besides, DVC sales are a big part of their recession-proofing themselves, by getting more and more people with "pre-paid vacations" to come back and stay on property. As members we have a vested interest in returning and using our points - and along with that, visiting the parks, buying food and/or merch, whereas the non-members staying in regular accomodations do not. Those that haven't invested in it, are more likely to postpone a vacation longer than we might, or downgrade from a deluxe to a moderate, or a moderate to a value, thereby reducing Disney's traditional occupancy rate and profitability. The major increase in DVC membership, and the apparent marketing increases between the last recession and this new one shows more and more of what Disney has been doing to better prepare for future economic downturns.

 

[kimberh]

I would shop resale, get what ever Use Year is as close to yours as you can get, or tell the Saleman what Uy you are wanting. They will call you when one becomes available. You can also tell the saleman that you want a contract with banked points. You may have to wait for it to become available, but I have successfully done this 3 times and passed ROFR.

This is a very high point increase. I will not buy anymore from Disney. There has to be a Cap to things. How high can points go and still be a value to buy? Has anyone figured it out?

 

[mousemania]

Why would you pay Disney $98 to $104 ppt when you can buy on the timeshare store at lower prices? Or buy the new resort with more years?

We just added ppts from Disney Doorway of Dreams store in Chicago last month for 170ppts at SSR and did get $10pt discount, developer ppts, (100ppts) 2007 and 2008 use year ppts and 2 annual passes.

I'm reading this thread and not understanding why anyone would pay $98 to disney for BWV, BCV, VWL, etc when you don't get any incentives, and a higher price then the timeshare store and you're on a waiting list. I don't get it?

 

[tammymacb]

Why would you pay Disney $98 to $104 ppt when you can buy on the timeshare store at lower prices? Or buy the new resort with more years?

We just added ppts from Disney Doorway of Dreams store in Chicago last month for 170ppts at SSR and did get $10pt discount, developer ppts, (100ppts) 2007 and 2008 use year ppts and 2 annual passes.

I'm reading this thread and not understanding why anyone would pay $98 to disney for BWV, BCV, VWL, etc when you don't get any incentives, and a higher price then the timeshare store and you're on a waiting list. I don't get it?

I would have bought directly from Disney because I only want another 50-60 points and I need a June UY. That severely limits the options out there for me in resale. If I bought directly from Disney, I'd get quick access to my points and all '07-'08 points. However, with the new price increase, I may be waiting until just that type of resale comes along on the secondary market.

 

[Mtnman44]

...no comment.

I guess DVC has no regard for the state of the economy. I would think one of the last things people could justify spending more money on is pre paid vacations. The state of the U.S. dollar seems to be of no concern to Disney. I guess park ticket prices will be next. Is Disney completely unaffected by the slowing economy, rising oil prices, declining stock market, etc.? How was Disney effected after 9 - 11? I wasn't really into WDW then as I am now.

 

[culli]

Why would you pay Disney $98 to $104 ppt when you can buy on the timeshare store at lower prices? Or buy the new resort with more years?

I want to add about 50 pts and when you figure closing costs on the secondary market into the equation and the simplicity of it going thru Disney makes sense. Convenience almost always comes at a price. Also not that I would pay for it but $70-$75 for OKW or $96 at Disney. Disney is charging $25 (I think) for the extension so that is something to think about. Not to mention the UY ease with Disney. Now if I'm looking for 150+ pts, yeah seconday add on is probably the way to go. In fact that is what I'm weighing out now. 150pts at the OKW is looking good on the secondary market, just tring to figure out how much I really care about the addtl years (which I believe is a personal thing not just a cost benefit view). Now I just need to find a job that gives me 4 months of paid vacation

 

[TisBit]

Why would you pay Disney $98 to $104 ppt when you can buy on the timeshare store at lower prices? Or buy the new resort with more years?

We just added ppts from Disney Doorway of Dreams store in Chicago last month for 170ppts at SSR and did get $10pt discount, developer ppts, (100ppts) 2007 and 2008 use year ppts and 2 annual passes.

I'm reading this thread and not understanding why anyone would pay $98 to disney for BWV, BCV, VWL, etc when you don't get any incentives, and a higher price then the timeshare store and you're on a waiting list. I don't get it?

There are a number of reasons. A lot of lower priced contracts on resale are stripped or for a large number of points, not the 50 or 60 some people want as an add on. The closing costs can come into play an be several dollars per point.....and as already stated the convenience of immediate access to points, not waiting for ROFR and being able to use these points for a vacation just a short time away.

There are plus and minus' to both resale and direct....you have to way them to your individual situation.

 

[nunzia]

..and of course with resale you don't get a tote bag...

I will always buy from Disney for my add ons. I found the closing costs at resale to be very high, and the process, although all went fine, a little nervy because of ROFR and the unknowns about the seller. Of course, the only add on I plan is for GCV, and I don't think we'll see those in resale for awhile.

 

[VrBchJ]

I bought my add ons direct because I only wanted 50 points each time and wanted my Oct. UY. I usually end up adding on in Aug. or Sept. so have always gotten current UY points and then in Oct. get the next years points so I end up with 100 points. There are no closing costs and the points are in my account the same day as I purchase. And of course, there's the totebag thing too!

 

[keishashadow]

I bought my add ons direct because I only wanted 50 points each time and wanted my Oct. UY. I usually end up adding on in Aug. or Sept. so have always gotten current UY points and then in Oct. get the next years points so I end up with 100 points. There are no closing costs and the points are in my account the same day as I purchase. And of course, there's the totebag thing too!

it'll fetch a quick $20 on eBay

jik y'all haven't been watching the "small" resale market offerings...the price ratio per point is substantially higher than a "full" contract for the more popular resorts
if anything the price increase should keep the value of shares high on the resale market.

personally, i look forward to Disney continuing to safeguard/price fix?ROFR - whatever u want to call it (of course i may feel differently if i'm priced out of the market for KRV ).