DVC News-Dec 25 Sales

I'd be more interested to see how many 25 pointers were sold for RIV since that was one of the resorts where 50 was the minimum. You could always buy 25 at the original resorts including Poly.
 

I would have expected more at CCV given the strong incentive (albeit starting from $255 "sold out" rate)

Restrictions seem to have mattered yet again.... $26 off at RIV for 200 points. $12 off at PIT for 200 points. Yet Poly sells about 35% more points.
 
I'd be more interested to see how many 25 pointers were sold for RIV since that was one of the resorts where 50 was the minimum. You could always buy 25 at the original resorts including Poly.
We bought a 25 pointer at CCV after it was allowed.
RIV was another option we were looking at.
 
I would have expected more at CCV given the strong incentive (albeit starting from $255 "sold out" rate)

Restrictions seem to have mattered yet again.... $26 off at RIV for 200 points. $12 off at PIT for 200 points. Yet Poly sells about 35% more points.
I think it's more that Poly is the new hotness and RIV is old news, most folks buying direct don't know what a restricted resort even means.
 
I think it's more that Poly is the new hotness and RIV is old news, most folks buying direct don't know what a restricted resort even means.

It's certainly possible that most buyers don't know what a restricted resort means, and what it ultimately does to resale prices, but even if just 20% or 30% of buyers do and are swayed by it, that can account for the difference in sales.

60K+ points per month for RIV is pretty good (I believe it averaged ~55K/month in 2025), but they've been having to discount a 200 points purchase $25-$30/pt to get there. The discount for 200 points at PIT has been around $10-$12 for much of the year and sales have been consistently higher each month.

Is PIT the new shiny object? Maybe.... but it's been in active sales for over 12 months, so at this point that seems less likely to me.

RIV will likely sell out in the next 12- 18 months. They probably could have made a bigger profit by discounting less if it wasn't restricted. I'm sure they'll make it on the back end when they buy contracts at depressed values via ROFR and flip them at "sold out" prices. I just don't want to be on the other end of that transaction...
 
The debate has been had many times on these boards on whether resale restrictions affect RIV's sales. I'm skeptical, and think simpler reasons like newness and COVID's impact on RIV sales are much more likely explanations. But, it's certainly debatable.

One potential reason I had not thought about before, but would be another simple reason to explain the difference in PVB and RIV sales numbers - you just need more points at PVB for most room categories. By my math, if you set aside the Penthouse 2 BRs, Bungalows, and GVs, equivalent accommodations at PVB can range from 15% more points at PVB to up to 45% more points at PVB for a full week. So, last month PVB sold about 34% more points than RIV - how much of that is simply because, your average PVB buyer, when sitting with their guide and determining how many points they wanted, looked at the points chart and said, well, I want enough for 1 week per year in this room - oh, and maybe I want to make sure I have enough for preferred or theme park view every other year if I bank or borrow a few of my points. If you're sitting with a guide and looking at the RIV points chart, you simply don't need as many points.

As a side note, I imagine the guides really like that - look at the points chart, are you sure you have enough points? Oh, and do you think you might want the theme park view sometimes? I think this is yet another reason while we see a points chart at LSL with as many preferred/premium views as they can reasonably justify and a points chart that, won't quite match the Island Tower, but will give a lot of us on these boards a bit of sticker shock.
 
I don't think that's it; there were also more deeds sold at PVB (the article lists the totals).

This is an evergreen topic, and I normally ask how long it will be before one of these threads doesn't devolve into a rock fight over restrictions.

However, I am pleased to note that the November '25 thread didn't! So, we are starting over I guess.
 
In about all year and a half we’ll have some answers about the restrictions and their impact on sales. We’re close!
 
What happens in a year and a half?
Another real* restricted** resort will be in active sales at WDW. If it fares the same as Riviera and underperforms the Polynesian and VGF, we’ll know the restrictions are the big negative of Riviera.

*CFW is not a typical DVC resort.
**Assuming it’s restricted.
 
Another real* restricted** resort will be in active sales at WDW. If it fares the same as Riviera and underperforms the Polynesian and VGF, we’ll know the restrictions are the big negative of Riviera.

*CFW is not a typical DVC resort.
**Assuming it’s restricted.
Ah, I see. How would underperformance be indicated or measured?

I do think restrictions may have some impact on sales, but the extent remains a question we can't really answer, thus the constant debate. There are so many other variables that can impact sales of any resort that to point towards only one variable while ignoring all the others seems odd to me. But that's just me....

I do think the people who can answer the question (DVD) ain't sayin', but anecdotally, it could be argued that restrictions can't have too negative an impact on sales as they still have them.
 

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