wbl2745
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Insane Trip to Animal Kingdom Villas with my brothers and our wives.
7 days, 6 nights, and 8 room reservations! Illuminations Cruise, Hoop-Dee-Do Review, Candlelight Processional, Le Cellier, and more!
Setting everything up!
My two brothers and our wives just got back from a trip to Walt Disney World (WDW). One brother hadnt been to Disneyland since he was a teenager and had never been to WDW. About 9 months ago we were all having dinner together and decided, sort of out of the blue, that we all needed to go to WDW and show Bob what is is all about.
Being the Disney Nerd in the family, I was elected to make all of the arrangements. DW and I put together a list of things to do and got everyone on board. Given the 180 day (plus 10) for making reservations and the 7 month window for making DVC reservations (our home resort are the Villas at the Grand Californian at the Disneyland Resort), I launched.
In my trip reports, I like to include things that worked and things that didnt work, as well as how I would change things.
At 7 months and 3 days, I started attempting to make reservations at the Animal Kingdom Villas (AKV) for a two-bedroom and a studio. I was hoping to get the value accommodations since it would use fewer points, not realizing that early December is a high occupancy time for DVC. (More about that later.) Without going into painful details, I was able to get about 1/2 of what I wanted, wait listed for the rest and started calling MS every day for the next seven months. The only wait lists that came through were single day wait lists. As time went by I started gathering whatever I could get. Im glad I did that.
The big mistake here was being focused on the AKV. At 7 months Im pretty sure that if I had said find me a two-bedroom and a studio at any resort for 12/1 through 12/7 I would have found it almost right at the start. But because I was focused almost entirely on the AKV and the value units, it was a mess from the beginning. The image below is what we eventually ended up with. The Deluxe Studio and the Value Two Bedroom reservations were actually two reservations that were merged. By the time that I decided this really wasnt going to work there werent the rooms I needed at any of the resorts.
So I learned that if youre going to use DVC at a popular time, more flexibility is needed. The good news is that I got to see a lot of different accommodations (pictures will be included) and have opinions on all of them.
The funny part about calling MS every day was that some cast members started to recognize me. They were always very polite and helpful, in so far as they could be. I didnt ever find a CM who was rude. It turned out that bouncing around like we did was a little annoying, but not as bad as I thought. My brother and his wife who were sharing the two-bedroom with my wife and I were very patient.
Having started the room reservation process, I turned next to getting the advance dining reservations (ADR). It was interesting that right at the point that I was going to start making the reservations Disney instituted a new policy that people staying at the resort could make reservations 180 days plus the length of their stay, up to 10 days. Since we were staying for six nights, that meant that I could go on-line at 186 days. I discovered this almost by accident. A few days before the 180 day mark I looked at the dining reservation site and it was going to let me in! So, I made reservations for Le Cellier for lunch, the Prime Time Cafe for lunch, Boma at the Animal Kingdom Lodge for dinner, and Artists Point at the Wilderness Lodge for dinner, getting exactly the times I wanted. Not bad.
These message boards are interesting in that AFTER I had made my reservations (Im no fool) I posted about that change in policy. It seemed that some posters were very angry, were sure that I was cheating and that I should cancel my reservations. Others were sure that it was a fluke and that my reservations would disappear when Disney caught the error. Well, the reservations held. More on that later.
The other reservations had to wait until 180 days. So at 4:00 AM at 180 days out (I was traveling on business in California) I called the reservation number to make reservations for the Illuminations Cruise and Hoop-Dee-Do Review. The 4:00 AM wasnt needed for HDDR, but you have to call that early to get the Illuminations Cruise. The last reservation was for a Candlelight Processional Dinner Package, which Disney seemed to drag its feet on. Anyone who was monitoring the CPDP recalls that all of a sudden the date when they would accept reservations was announced. I tried to call first thing and didnt get through. I kept calling and eventually got a 5:20 PM dinner at the Rose and Crown for the 8:15 performance. Lastly, I arranged a Keys of the Kingdom Tour because one of my brothers wanted to see the Utilidors.
So thats the set up. Knowing when you can start your reservations is key to getting what you want. (Interestingly, Jim Lewis, the president of DVC said the same thing about getting the DVC reservations you want.) After I made all of the dining and tours reservations I was just calling daily to check on availability for DVC. Im going to guess that with all of the DVC calling I spent 50 hours on set up. I dont know what people do who just show up at WDW without any advance planning.
Next: December 1. Arrival, Check-in, and Adventures in a Brand New Resort Reservations System!
7 days, 6 nights, and 8 room reservations! Illuminations Cruise, Hoop-Dee-Do Review, Candlelight Processional, Le Cellier, and more!
Setting everything up!
My two brothers and our wives just got back from a trip to Walt Disney World (WDW). One brother hadnt been to Disneyland since he was a teenager and had never been to WDW. About 9 months ago we were all having dinner together and decided, sort of out of the blue, that we all needed to go to WDW and show Bob what is is all about.
Being the Disney Nerd in the family, I was elected to make all of the arrangements. DW and I put together a list of things to do and got everyone on board. Given the 180 day (plus 10) for making reservations and the 7 month window for making DVC reservations (our home resort are the Villas at the Grand Californian at the Disneyland Resort), I launched.
In my trip reports, I like to include things that worked and things that didnt work, as well as how I would change things.
At 7 months and 3 days, I started attempting to make reservations at the Animal Kingdom Villas (AKV) for a two-bedroom and a studio. I was hoping to get the value accommodations since it would use fewer points, not realizing that early December is a high occupancy time for DVC. (More about that later.) Without going into painful details, I was able to get about 1/2 of what I wanted, wait listed for the rest and started calling MS every day for the next seven months. The only wait lists that came through were single day wait lists. As time went by I started gathering whatever I could get. Im glad I did that.
The big mistake here was being focused on the AKV. At 7 months Im pretty sure that if I had said find me a two-bedroom and a studio at any resort for 12/1 through 12/7 I would have found it almost right at the start. But because I was focused almost entirely on the AKV and the value units, it was a mess from the beginning. The image below is what we eventually ended up with. The Deluxe Studio and the Value Two Bedroom reservations were actually two reservations that were merged. By the time that I decided this really wasnt going to work there werent the rooms I needed at any of the resorts.

So I learned that if youre going to use DVC at a popular time, more flexibility is needed. The good news is that I got to see a lot of different accommodations (pictures will be included) and have opinions on all of them.
The funny part about calling MS every day was that some cast members started to recognize me. They were always very polite and helpful, in so far as they could be. I didnt ever find a CM who was rude. It turned out that bouncing around like we did was a little annoying, but not as bad as I thought. My brother and his wife who were sharing the two-bedroom with my wife and I were very patient.
Having started the room reservation process, I turned next to getting the advance dining reservations (ADR). It was interesting that right at the point that I was going to start making the reservations Disney instituted a new policy that people staying at the resort could make reservations 180 days plus the length of their stay, up to 10 days. Since we were staying for six nights, that meant that I could go on-line at 186 days. I discovered this almost by accident. A few days before the 180 day mark I looked at the dining reservation site and it was going to let me in! So, I made reservations for Le Cellier for lunch, the Prime Time Cafe for lunch, Boma at the Animal Kingdom Lodge for dinner, and Artists Point at the Wilderness Lodge for dinner, getting exactly the times I wanted. Not bad.
These message boards are interesting in that AFTER I had made my reservations (Im no fool) I posted about that change in policy. It seemed that some posters were very angry, were sure that I was cheating and that I should cancel my reservations. Others were sure that it was a fluke and that my reservations would disappear when Disney caught the error. Well, the reservations held. More on that later.
The other reservations had to wait until 180 days. So at 4:00 AM at 180 days out (I was traveling on business in California) I called the reservation number to make reservations for the Illuminations Cruise and Hoop-Dee-Do Review. The 4:00 AM wasnt needed for HDDR, but you have to call that early to get the Illuminations Cruise. The last reservation was for a Candlelight Processional Dinner Package, which Disney seemed to drag its feet on. Anyone who was monitoring the CPDP recalls that all of a sudden the date when they would accept reservations was announced. I tried to call first thing and didnt get through. I kept calling and eventually got a 5:20 PM dinner at the Rose and Crown for the 8:15 performance. Lastly, I arranged a Keys of the Kingdom Tour because one of my brothers wanted to see the Utilidors.
So thats the set up. Knowing when you can start your reservations is key to getting what you want. (Interestingly, Jim Lewis, the president of DVC said the same thing about getting the DVC reservations you want.) After I made all of the dining and tours reservations I was just calling daily to check on availability for DVC. Im going to guess that with all of the DVC calling I spent 50 hours on set up. I dont know what people do who just show up at WDW without any advance planning.
Next: December 1. Arrival, Check-in, and Adventures in a Brand New Resort Reservations System!