DVC discount vs all ears discount

[Dano1182]

Do I have this right?
I get 10 percent dicount at duvals watersports from DVC memebership.But just by going to all ears website I get a coupon for 15 percent.Does rthat seem right that an free website gets beeter discounts thant DVC dues payting members?

 

[dozerdog]

Not to my way of thinking, but "All Ears" does have a huge following (myself included). I always check out all my options when finding discounts. I've found that DVC ususally ISN'T the best choice.

 

[Chuck S]

By looking at the Sammy Duvalls' website, I would say that Duvall's is not a Disney operated company, much like the Valet Parking or non-Disney operated restaurants.. They can offer any discount they wish for any criteria they wish.

 

[Dano1182]

It just seems to me that we should get the same or better discount as a random person doing a google search.

When we have used sammy duval services in the past all the people working there apeared to be cast members.

Reservations are made through disney .

 

[DenLo]

Even passholders get a better discount that DVC members.

From the AP website:

Marina Boat Rentals:
Save 15% on regularly priced boat rentals at any Walt Disney World Resort marina, including Specialty Fireworks Cruises. Offer valid for Passholder only. Subject to availability. Certain age restrictions apply (excludes Holiday Event Specialty Cruises and the Grand 1 Yacht).

 

[Dano1182]

I know we are only talking about a few bucks but .What would it cost for us to be treated a swell as randowm web surfers?

 

[karrit2000]

Do I have this right?
I get 10 percent dicount at duvals watersports from DVC memebership.But just by going to all ears website I get a coupon for 15 percent.Does rthat seem right that an free website gets beeter discounts thant DVC dues payting members?

The only DVC discount that I make use of is the AP discount. The AP gives better discounts and as you found with All Ears you can find better offers from other sources. You just have to spend a little time doing research to find the discounts that will work best for you.

 

[Chuck S]

It just seems to me that we should get the same or better discount as a random person doing a google search.

When we have used sammy duval services in the past all the people working there apeared to be cast members.

Reservations are made through disney .

As part of the operational contracts, I think Disney treats most of the employees of onsite, non-Disney operated business as "Cast Members" for all practical purposes. However, like the valet and non-Disney restaurant personnel, they are not true Cast Members. Disney also makes reservations for non-Disney operated restaurants.
But also like those non-Disney operated restaurants, some give a DVC discount, and other do not. It is entirely up to the individual business.

What would it cost for us to be treated a swell as randowm web surfers?

Truthfully, dues should never be used to subsidize a discount. True discounts are a courtesy granted by the individual location, and it is entirely their choice as to whether to grant a discount or not.

For instance, Landry's (Rainforest, T-Rex and Yak & Yeti) doesn't offer the same discounts at all of their locations, even though they are all owned and operated by the same company. Some of the restaurants in the Japan pavilion offers TiW discounts, some do not. Fulton's occasionally offers DVCes better discounts than those offered to TiW card members.

Complaining about a private non-Disney company not giving a sufficient discount is like complaining that AARP members get hotel discounts at Hampton Inns, but DVC members do not. Those private businesses have NO financial interest in DVC, they get no subsidy or income from DVC sales or dues. It is a courtesy, and one that can disappear at any time.

 

[wdwnomad]

If you are looking to parasail then head over to Orlando in Google Offers. They are offering $57 for an 8-10 minute ride.

 

[Elise79]

Even passholders get a better discount that DVC members.

From the AP website:

Thats the Marina rentals - Sammy Duvalls is:

Sammy Duvall's Water Sports Centre:
Save 10% on Parasailing, Water-Skiing, Wakeboarding, and personal watercraft at Sammy Duvall's Water Sports Centre at Disney's Contemporary Resort for the Passholder after 12:00 noon.

 

[Dano1182]

OK
I accept that outside vendors give DVC members discounts .
If that is true then what discounts or "perks"does Disney proper give to some of it's most loyal visitors the DVC members.

 

[chalee94]

If that is true then what discounts or "perks"does Disney proper give to some of it's most loyal visitors the DVC members.

discounted villa accommodations.

there is also a $100ish discount on APs and some scattered dining and shopping discounts.

but if you're not happy getting a long-term deal on villa accommodations, then you shouldn't buy DVC. that might wind up being all you get. certainly some DVC owners have complained over the last few years that when disney has been offering "free dining" deals or "7-for-4" or "40% off" to cash customers, DVC members have not been offered anything new.

if you expect disney to "reward" you for buying into DVC beyond what is stated in the contract, you really don't understand how business works.

 

[Dano1182]

I do understand that good Business is to take care of your most loyal customers.Which we as DVCers are are.We are they people who spend our money year after year in WDW .

We are the people who constanlty tell people how great DVC is.

We are the people who have gotten others to buy in to DVC.

We are the people who get asked why we are "going there again?"

DVC members must be in some way be responsilbe for a least some of Disney profits .

I only asked what do we get in the way of perks from direct from Disney.I am not asking for free dining for all.

I was only wondering why a person who does a random web search get a larger discount than we do.

For the record I am happy with our membership.

I had forgotten that merely asking or questioning the perks of our membership is frowned upon by some.

 

[karrit2000]

I do understand that good Business is to take care of your most loyal customers.Which we as DVCers are are.We are they people who spend our money year after year in WDW .

We are the people who constanlty tell people how great DVC is.

We are the people who have gotten others to buy in to DVC.

We are the people who get asked why we are "going there again?"

DVC members must be in some way be responsilbe for a least some of Disney profits .

I only asked what do we get in the way of perks from direct from Disney.I am not asking for free dining for all.

I was only wondering why a person who does a random web search get a larger discount than we do.

For the record I am happy with our membership.

I had forgotten that merely asking or questioning the perks of our membership is frowned upon by some.

I totally agree with most of what you are saying. Unfortunately Disney believes we are a captive audience that they do not need to spend more money on to entice us to spend further. They do this with every "Special" Disney group not just DVC. Once we are captive they leave us hanging. It's up to us to figure out how to work the perks offered through various sources to our benefit.

Personally the free dining & the dining plan in general lost it's appeal after the first couple of years when they started eliminating pieces such as the Appetizer & the Tips and raising the prices too.

I've never understood why they will not offer a measly 10% discount on merchandise in the parks & at DTD to DVC members. It's not a great amount but mentally it is an enticement for one to spend more money.

I could get into how they destroyed the Disneyana Conventions, made many changes for the worse to other annual events such as Flower & Garden, Food & Wine, Pin Celebrations, etc. but this isn't the forum for that. As long as someone is willing to spend the money & they still see an acceptable profit they will continue to eat away at everything that was once much more enjoyable to everyone.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I'm at WDW now. At the resort and DTD merchandise shops, the only discount was using the Disney Visa CC. Not one of them took DVC card for any type of discount. I booked a tour. Disney Visa gave a 20% discount, DVC only 15%. Why? How many umpteen million people have Disney Visa? Far fewer own DVC. I just don't understand it.

 

[tjkraz]

I do understand that good Business is to take care of your most loyal customers.Which we as DVCers are are.We are they people who spend our money year after year in WDW.

In general, businesses don't cater to their "most loyal" customers rather it's the highest spending customers. And in terms of average guest spending, DVC members aren't particularly high on the list.

Guest spending is an important figure that Disney tracks. It includes the average daily expenses--per guest--for everything including tickets, dining, souvenirs, watersports, golf, spa services, etc.

Given that DVC members return frequently, they don't spend nearly as much on souvenirs as others. Dining habits vary greatly but given the presence of kitchens in every single DVC villa, average member spending on dining is lower than other groups.

As for tickets, they are a necessary evil for most but the attractive $100-125 discount given to DVC members--which is not available to any other group--brings that cost down considerably.

Add it all up and on a per-day basis, DVC members are pretty stingy in terms of what they add to the Disney coffers.

Now over a lifetime the dollars will be considerable. But is it more than a FL resident pass holder? Is it more than a cash guest who spends a week at a Disney Deluxe resort every-other-year? Whether it is or not, from Disney's perspective they are providing us with a lot more in-park entertainment in return for the dollars we spend on tickets.

The best thing we could hope for (IMO) is that Disney someday creates a new rewards program similar to the old Magic Kingdom Club which would offer perks to guests based upon their spending. The Parks & Resorts division--which is separate from DVC--does not currently value business from DVC members any more than it does other groups.

Disney Vacation Club itself is a quid pro quo--it's something for something. We give them a sizable amount of money up front in return for deep discounts on accommodations for the next 50 years. That upfront investment alone isn't enough to brand us the "most loyal customers" and--as a group--our ancillary spending doesn't make us worthy of that designation either.

 

[Dano1182]

I hope that my credit card statement will refelct that DVC people do not spend alot of money at WDW.

I do like the rewards Idea.

 

[Dano1182]

My son got 4 any time FPs for telling a joke to the ladies in DHS.
So How about one FP for each person staying in DVC (members only)per visit?

 

[Lynne M]

My son got 4 any time FPs for telling a joke to the ladies in DHS.
So How about one FP for each person staying in DVC (members only)per visit?

The problem with that is that there are hundreds or thousands of people staying at WDW on points on any given day. Even if you require a DVC member card to get the anytime FP, what's going to happen to the FP line at, say, TSM at park opening if 50-100 DVC members show up? It would negate the purpose of FP - scheduling guests to go through ride lines in specific time periods.

The current FP system can handle a smallish number of FPs given out in situations like your son's. Mass numbers like 'all DVC members staying on property today' would really tax the system.

 

[tjkraz]

Would be a nice perk but I can't see it happening.

Disney Parks controls FASTPASS distribution. They are willing to allow a few dozen promotional FPs per day but not the thousands it would require to satisfy all DVC members staying on-site at any given time.

With so many other groups to consider (FL residents, cash hotel guests, pass holders, etc.) I cannot see DVC members being singled out for such a benefit when it puts all of those other groups at a disadvantage. Like Lynne said, every promo FP distributed for TSM, Soarin, etc. is one less FP for another guest.