Duggars make 17!

I'm willing to bet most of the kids that live in cults think they are happy. It will not be until they get out in the real world that will realize how the rest of the world was allowed to grow up.

It's hard to even dignify that with a response, but I'll try... these children are not in a cult. People are afraid of what they don't understand, and their 1st instinct is to criticize and find fault. These children take private music lessons (outside the home - I might add) and they enjoy activities outside the home and church (I saw one thing where the oldest boy was ice-skating on a date - GASP! Normal!) Yes, the girls do most of the cooking, but they have been taught to change a tire and check the oil. The boys are trained to fix the cars and make home repairs, but they also cook on occasion (mostly on the grill, LOL, if that's not normal for a man I don't know what is). And when has it become so bad to instill domestic things on children, anyway? The mom worked outside the home, she knows the value of an education, she certainly "works" whether or not people think raising a family is work or not! She could probably teach some middle managers a thing or two about organization, delegation, cooperation, and reward!

It amazes me how people talk about how hard a job it is to raise their children up right, yet, look around for the absolute cheapest child care they can find! I work, so don't get me wrong, I know most people who have children and work, don't have a choice, but a lot do have the choice and even then they will "shop" around to find the cheapest person to do the most important job.

And I disagree that these children will "get out in the real world and realize how the rest of the world was allowed to grow up"; I think they will grow up and realize how blessed they were to have such loving, supportive, parents AND siblings, and how sad it is that so many people only talk/see their families on major holidays and funerals! They will probably feel very lucky!
 
My thoughts exactly. I wonder how much editing goes in to having them depicted as such the "perfect" family. Mom never flips out (although maybe if I had built in nannies I would not either), the kids never argue????? I dont buy it!

They are entitled to live there lives as they see fit but if you put your life out there for everyone to view then dont expect people not to comment!


Editing goes both ways. Editing can enhance your preception of their freakishness as well.
 
I belong to that church too! Lately, I have been listening to the whispers of a serpent named "Dyson". He tells me that I can rid myself of the Dust Mites with just a small donation of $500. What do you think?

The serpent lies. The Dust Mites are like locusts. They will always come back in swarms.
 
I must admit, your post made little sense.

1. You do not get outraged at large families.
2. "even one with six kids is a lot".
3. The Duggars have almost three times that many!"
4. do your math!!!

So, let us see if we can get some of the posters on this thread to clarify his or her position. Posters: please let us know the point at which you become outraged:

1 child: Nope. Not outraged. Two parents, one child, equals a decrease in world’s population by one.
2 children: Nope. Not outraged. Two parents, two children, world’s population remains stable.
3 children: Not outraged. Mistakes happen.
4 children: Not really outraged, but someone’s been careless.
5 children: Starting to get miffed, but not outraged.
6 children: a little more miffed, mixed with a little outrage. Do the math.
7 children: supposedly a spiritual number, so let it pass.
8 children: loved TV show ‘eight is enough’, so let it pass.
9 children: ok for a baseball team, but not for parents!
10 children: Ok, now I am starting to get outraged!
11 children: Didn’t you hear me!
12 children: the movie ‘Cheaper by the Dozen’ was NOT funny!
13 children: unlucky number, hence must be haven of witches!
14 children: Getting more outraged! Uterus collapsing! Can’t see feet!
15 children: Stop it! Stop it right now! You Children of the Corn!
16 children: Tax fraud! Call the IRS! Tax fraud!
17 children: Outraged! Children are spawn of Satan and shall end up in psychiatrist office! Children being made to do chores! Warning Dr. Smith, Warning!

Now, I feel better.

:rolleyes1

I am outraged by the what these children are forced to do, not the qty. The same would be true if it was two kids with one being charged to care for the other with no littel help from the parents.
 

Editing goes both ways. Editing can enhance your preception of their freakishness as well.

Not in this case. It's not like they are making any of these things up. They also had a whole season, not just one show to try and depict the freakiness. Not a lot of editing had to go into showing how these people live, but I do agree there was likely an agreement to take out any arguments or turmoil in the house.
 
I think the reason you don't see them fight is that they have no sense of identity or self. They just conform into part of the collective (sorry, old Star Trek reference there;) ) I think if you don't nurture each child's own personal interest and make them all play violin, and make all the girls do laundry and cook, then this is what you get.... Simply Drones

MTE

The Duggars believe in the quiverfull movement. Here is one of the websites about it: www.quiverfull.com It's like they belong to the Borg.
 
And I disagree that these children will "get out in the real world and realize how the rest of the world was allowed to grow up"; I think they will grow up and realize how blessed they were to have such loving, supportive, parents AND siblings, and how sad it is that so many people only talk/see their families on major holidays and funerals! They will probably feel very lucky!

It's hard to even dignify that with a response, but time will tell how this all works out.
 
I can't imagine making either choice, but I also don't believe that I have the right to judge another woman's decision about what is right for her.

Our society and local governments do that all the time. It's what child protective services is all about. The people have decided that in some cases the people can step in and make sure the kids don't suffer their parents' really bad decisions.
 
I just feel they are playing odds and are going to lose...someday. They are taking enormous risks.

For example..I have one child and she's moderate to severly hearing impaired. These people have almost 17 and not one has been reported as having any delays or disABILITIES.

There's gonna come a baby that will have special needs...then, I guess, it'll be up to the other ones to take care of it.

Maybe I'm jealous since I could only have one and that was through IVF...but, I'll tell ya, my baby (now almost 7) KNOWS she's the light of our lives and has colored our world more than she'll ever imagine. She's marinated in love...are these kids??

My 2 cent!!
 
It's hard to even dignify that with a response, but time will tell how this all works out.

Agreed. Shall we all meet back here in twenty years to see if any of the girls made it to college and pursued microbiology or physics or engineering? I hope so, but I doubt it will happen.
 
Our society and local governments do that all the time. It's what child protective services is all about. The people have decided that in some cases the people can step in and make sure the kids don't suffer their parents' really bad decisions.

Sure, if there is some kind of neglect or violence being committed towards the children. From what I've read, there seems to be a wide variation of opinons about how bad this all is for the kids. If a child is being truly neglected or abused, I wouldn't think the opinions would vary this much.

We have a family of 6 that goes to my church and the oldest boy is often seen carrying the baby, giving him a bottle or playing with him. I think it's sweet that he does that-not abusive. He's probably going to make a great father someday because he already knows how to be loving and tender towards a child.

Having household chores to do is not abusive, as much as I tried to convince my mother that it was! :lmao:
 
It's hard to even dignify that with a response, but time will tell how this all works out.

True. The Amish have rumspringa and some eventually elect not to stay.
 
It makes me laugh that the people who are getting mad at posters for commenting on the Duggars also are the ones commenting on the Nanny shows and those kids.

We cant comment on things we find odd about the Duggars who put their life out there to be examined, it isnt only out there to be praised it doesnt work that way. yet you can criticize a family on Supernanny trying to get help. Both families have put their lives out there so they need to expect to be examined the good and the bad.

I think a lot of the Duggars ways of doing things can be admired (organizational skills) and other can be found as odd or downright disturbing. It doesnt make us evil or wrong for commenting.
 
three kids is enough for me, but you people need to lay off the Duggars. These kids seem pretty well adjusted to me. I don't think we will ever read about their kids getting in trouble with the law or causing problems for society. With all of the real problems in American Society, Drugs, Gangs, etc. this criticisim seems petty to me.
 
three kids is enough for me, but you people need to lay off the Duggars. These kids seem pretty well adjusted to me. I don't think we will ever read about their kids getting in trouble with the law or causing problems for society. With all of the real problems in American Society, Drugs, Gangs, etc. this criticisim seems petty to me.
No becuse they cant leave the house they have to take care of their younger siblings.So it would be pretty hard to get in trouble if you cant leave their house and get out in society.
 
Originally Posted by cardaway
I'm willing to bet most of the kids that live in cults think they are happy. It will not be until they get out in the real world that will realize how the rest of the world was allowed to grow up.

True. But in that same equation, look at how kids in general are turning out. We've seen what generation after generation of families believing much of what the Dugger's believe. They pretty much produced the varied bunch that live in the world now. I'm not so sure children raised in homes where they are worshipped and slathered in attention, toys, and self esteem raising converstation are going to do a heck of a lot better. If I were a betting gal, I'd bet the kids that know how to do a chore, as opposed to the me, me, me crowd will be a bit happier in the end. Cultish as tha might be.
 
I say this on every Duggar thread, so sorry if it is redundant:

What bothers me is that this is news and the way they are glorified. There is nothing great about having child after child. Now if they had adopted a few of a few hard to place children, then I would find them admirable. But just reproducing yourself like an animal does not impress me. JMHO.
 
You must really not think much of the people who are pro-choice if you think they would not think something is wrong with a woman who had 17 abortions.
No, I don't think she does. FWIW, I would feel the same way about someone who got pregnant 17 times no matter what the outcome: "It's time for some Birth Control!" :headache:
 
No becuse they cant leave the house they have to take care of their younger siblings.So it would be pretty hard to get in trouble if you cant leave their house and get out in society.

Bingo. Hard to get in trouble when your entire childhood works like you have already been grounded. :laughing:
 













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