Duggars Expecting

[distherapy]

Huh? Why would you be glad that I don't? I was only referring to the article you quoted which clearly didn't state that the woman advocating blanket training "switched" her kids. I think I'm misunderstanding your comment. My point was simply that the author of that article did not say she used the switch to strike her kids. That's all.

My point is that I believe she implies that she does -

"demonstrating the consequences of getting off the blanket with a small rod or switch."

"I sat across from them in a chair with my little switch."

"If the rules were ignored, the little switch was a gentle reminder of the importance of obedience. " (These last 2 are when they are removed from the blanket, so switching the floor around them isn't an option).

If you're not convinced of what I believe she's implying, just check out the comments and reviews of the first book she references. It is much more blunt.

http://www.amazon.com/What-Bible-About-Child-Training/dp/1889700134

I have excerpted one below, and then I'm done. We've gone far off track and I only hope that the young parents-to-be have different plans.

"And for those wise in their own conceits, rejecting God's command to chasten with a rod; their children may yet curse them to their face for not having loved them enough to deliver their souls from hell. (Proverbs 23:13-14, Proverbs 13:24) Fare thee well, friend.


Here is what God actually says about corrective training:

Psalms 89:30-33, "If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail."

(Please understand: God's ways are eternal. He does not change His mind like we do.)

Proverbs 13:24, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Proverbs 22:15, "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Proverbs 23:13-14, "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

Proverbs 29:15, "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."

The Apostle Paul warns erring Christians: 1 Corinthians 4:21, "What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?"

 

[BellesFavoriteBook]

Congrats to Josh and Anna. And to grandparents Michelle & JimBob! This little baby will be so lucky to have a lot of Aunts and Uncles (and built in babysitters ).


Children are such a blessing (I have three nieces & three nephews).

 

[Mrsdennison]

I'm happy for them. I married early and had my first child at 20.

Josh did say on the show tonight that they wanted as many children as god blessed them with. He went on to say if that meant one or two they would be very happy.

I think they will use some form of birth control like natural family planning or condoms. But that is there business.

Mrsdennison

 

[princessmom29]

I'm happy for them. I married early and had my first child at 20.

Josh did say on the show tonight that they wanted as many children as god blessed them with. He went on to say if that meant one or two they would be very happy.

I think they will use some form of birth control like natural family planning or condoms. But that is there business.

Mrsdennison

I certianly hope so, but I highly doubt that they will. They are too brainwashed to go agianst what they have been taught from infancy.

 

[princessmom29]

My point is that I believe she implies that she does -

"demonstrating the consequences of getting off the blanket with a small rod or switch."

"I sat across from them in a chair with my little switch."

"If the rules were ignored, the little switch was a gentle reminder of the importance of obedience. " (These last 2 are when they are removed from the blanket, so switching the floor around them isn't an option).

If you're not convinced of what I believe she's implying, just check out the comments and reviews of the first book she references. It is much more blunt.

http://www.amazon.com/What-Bible-About-Child-Training/dp/1889700134

I have excerpted one below, and then I'm done. We've gone far off track and I only hope that the young parents-to-be have different plans.

"And for those wise in their own conceits, rejecting God's command to chasten with a rod; their children may yet curse them to their face for not having loved them enough to deliver their souls from hell. (Proverbs 23:13-14, Proverbs 13:24) Fare thee well, friend.


Here is what God actually says about corrective training:

Psalms 89:30-33, "If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail."

(Please understand: God's ways are eternal. He does not change His mind like we do.)

Proverbs 13:24, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Proverbs 22:15, "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Proverbs 23:13-14, "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

Proverbs 29:15, "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."

The Apostle Paul warns erring Christians: 1 Corinthians 4:21, "What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?"

This is exactly what I was trying to get across. I don't understand how anyone could read their literature and not realize what they are telling you to do. They cannot come right out and say to hit the kid with a switch, butthe make it more than clear that this is the intention. I am all for seing the best in poeople, but come on, how` can you not realize what is going on here? Just because the words "hit the child with the switch" are not there does not mean that it is not the intention. Aside form the switch I still think confining a small child to a blanket for extended peroids just so that you don't have to tend them is cruel. That seems to be the point here. Being able to leave the child unattended for long peroids. I guess when there are 18 kids there is just not time to tend them all. I just hate the fact that Josh and Anna are in the process of creating another family where this will likely go on.

 

[Kit'smommy]

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Originally Posted by Kit'smommy
I feel sorry for these children overall after everything I have seen of them on the show and read from reputable sources online. In this day and age, I think these children have been too sheltered and too poorly educated -especially the girls. I also do not agree with the older children rearing their younger siblings. Chores are one thing, but having to prepare all of the food for a large family or doing all of the laundry is just no way to spend all of your teenage years.

Older children helping to rear smaller kids is not new to just the Duggers. My mom was the 5th child of 8 that my Granny had. The older kids helped raise the younger ones. This has gone on for years. As far as preparing meals my sister and I did that from the time I was 7 she 13 if not we would not have eaten until 8'oclock at night because both our parents worked.

But HELPING is the key word in your post. These children are not helping. They are essentially rearing their younger siblings while Mama Duggar walks around with the newest addition on her hip and supervises everything.

I started learning to cook when I was 7 and by 10 was preparing several meals a week. However, I was cooking for 4 people and dinner usually required 15-30 minutes of prep time.

I also learned to do laundry at a young age, but once again, it was laundry for 4 people and required 10-15 minutes a day at most to start a load, transfer it to the dryer and fold it. These children are spending hours doing this kind of work.

These poor children have to schedule one on one time with their parents. That tells me that the parents have limited direct supervision of the children.