Drink Cheaters???

[MermaidsMom]

If the glass slipper fits! (Are you perfect? All the time?)

Yeah, what you said!

Good grief, who said that? Wow, apparently I hit a nerve with that one! Are you perfect? Must be or you wouldn't be judging me.

And P.S., who posted that rude defination in the first place? Don't be shocked that we all don't think like you do.

 

[BriarRosie]

Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going!

The way I see it, I can police myself.

And while I don't like seeing someone clearly using the soda station when they didn't pay for it, I am not going to let something that trivial bother me on my vacation. Let Disney cast members handle it if they see a problem. .

This topic has been a bone of contention ever since Disney started the refillable mug problem....I mean program.

Now I'm seeing the "sip stealing" commercial on TV, and according to the ad, it's not illegal in all 50 states.

 

[MermaidsMom]

Wow, I can't believe this thread is still going!

The way I see it, I can police myself.

And while I don't like seeing someone clearly using the soda station when they didn't pay for it, I am not going to let something that trivial bother me on my vacation. Let Disney cast members handle it if they see a problem. .

This topic has been a bone of contention ever since Disney started the refillable mug problem....I mean program.

Now I'm seeing the "sip stealing" commercial on TV, and according to the ad, it's not illegal in all 50 states.

It is pretty funny they have a commercial like that when we are having this discussion! And I agree with you, we should all police ourselves. I would NEVER tell someone else where to sit/eat/get soda or anything else. It's none of my business and never said it was. Just said it's wrong to steal, and don't understand why that is such a problem.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

1st, my opinion of the refillable mugs & soda machines.... They're a nasty, infested, germ pit. Ewwwwww

Now for the other discussion, I think most of us agree stealing is wrong & wouldn't do it. That includes stealing soda, lying about a kid's age to pay less or get more free food, & any # of things people do to save money, & probably shouldn't be. Maybe it doesn't seem like the majority of people wouldn't, because we usually only hear about those who do this not those who don't, but I feel confident that's the case. The major difference I see in arguments like this is that some choose to mind their own business & others apparently don't. It's hard for someone who monopolizes their time policing & enjoying their own family to take those who feel a need to watch others & form an opinion on what they are doing seriously. Some of us think we need to mind our own business & allow those who are responsible for the policing do their job. If they don't do it, that's their superiors problem. Yet again, it's not mine. To me, rationalizing ways to interject one's opinions into other's lives is just as bad as stealing soda. Actually, stealing soda affects me less. That doesn't mean it's any less offensive in the grand scheme of things. I'd just rather pay a little more for my soda, due to the offenders, than deal with people interfering with my & other's lives.

 

[thomas998]

Excellent Point! Please note that mine was simply the response to someone else's posting. This thread is just a silly bit of fluff, but it has an undercurrent that seems to be holding everyones attention....

I think the reason people stay tuned is the same reason they watch the Andy Griffith Show... the over-zealousness of Barney Fife... and from this thread Barney seems to be alive and well all over the place.... I only thank God there aren't any in my neighborhood.

 

[Quiksilvr]

WOW...my guess is that you are a 'cola bandit'. Even if you aren't, your comments regarding escaped slaves was so far out of line- I'm 1/2 tempted to complain to a moderator and have it removed.

As for DW being the criminal? Give me a break! SO by your argument, tickets being 75 bucks to get in for a 1 day base ticket???? Why not just try to find a way in without paying?? If the idea that something is too expensive gives you the belief that it's ok to steal? Well...I feel very sorry for you and your children. (If you have any). Does this apply to designer jeans? Just steal em...how bout lipstick? Is that a blelief that you would instill in your daughter?

Just TAKE whatever you want, provided it meets YOUR criteria of expensive.

The escaped slave bit seems like it could be another corollary to Godwin's Law. "As soon as an individual invokes 18th-19th century human rights abuses to prove his/her unrelated point on an internet board, such individual shall immediately be deemed to have lost the argument."

 

[MermaidsMom]

I think the reason people stay tuned is the same reason they watch the Andy Griffith Show... the over-zealousness of Barney Fife... and from this thread Barney seems to be alive and well all over the place.... I only thank God there aren't any in my neighborhood.

LOL! Excellent point! I also enjoyed Sheriff Andy Taylor and Aunt Bea. They always taught Opie wonderful lessons on proper behavior. There was always a moral tone that wasn't overwhelming.

 

[xtremeservice]

I am just curious why they don't sell a park wide mug good for length of stay or include one in with the dinning plan?? Also the way they handle mugs at the water parks seems to work ok by bar coding mug to turn on the machine?? The mugs for resorts are a pain to carry around in the parks since they can't be used for the park. I think they would sell the heck out of them.

Anyhow they have many choices in how to secure the pop machines BAR CODE-COMPUTER SMART CHIP-RETINAL SCAN-IRIS SCAN-FACIAL RECOGNITION-DNA what ever they have the technology they can accommodate there customers.

 

[chickenskin]

HELLO....i dont know about the beginning of this thread but stealing a car, robbing a bank, stealing from a store....A JOKE

CLUE PHONE.....

Uh, guess you didn't sense the sarcasm based upon the rest of my post. No it's not a joke, that was the point of my response, the fact that people are dismissing this as Disney's fault for being expensive, or that it's only soda is ludicrous. Again, you missed the point of my response.

 

[perla75]

I am just curious why they don't sell a park wide mug good for length of stay or include one in with the dinning plan?? Also the way they handle mugs at the water parks seems to work ok by bar coding mug to turn on the machine?? The mugs for resorts are a pain to carry around in the parks since they can't be used for the park. I think they would sell the heck out of them.

Anyhow they have many choices in how to secure the pop machines BAR CODE-COMPUTER SMART CHIP-RETINAL SCAN-IRIS SCAN-FACIAL RECOGNITION-DNA what ever they have the technology they can accommodate there customers.

During our last trip, we spotted the souvineer cup you can buy at AKL which allows $.99 refills in that park. It was such a hot day, that ended up to be a great deal for us. The DAK cup is MUCH bigger than the resort mug too. I would love to see something like this for MK, Epcot, and DHS.

 

[Quiksilvr]

I'm a lawyer; I get paid to give large corporations advice on how they should follow the law. When we present an issue to a client, particularly in cases in which the client has done something questionable, we don't tell them that one bit of conduct is "more wrong" or "less wrong" than another. The law does not allow for subjective judgments that say: "this is a little more wrong than that." Illegal conduct is wrong. End of story. You can't justify it away.

What we do tell our clients, however, is that there is a question of degree when it comes to how offensive society views certain conduct. This is clear in the punishments prescribed for various offenses. Obviously, there is a difference between simple assault and murder. Society views murder as more offensive, so the punishment attached to the conduct is more severe. That does not make the assault "less wrong". I would love for a defendant to walk into a sentencing hearing for simple assault and say, "Your Honor, I know this looks bad...but I really think you should take into account the fact that I didn't kill the victim. That would have been much worse." The judge would agree with the defendant that killing the victim would have been worse, and then sentence the defendant based on the sentencing guidelines for the crime. The lesser punishment attached to the crime speaks for how much less offensive punching someone in the face is when compared to shooting them. The trigger for the punishment, regardless of which offense is committed, is the breaking of the law. I guess that's why, in a very abstract but literal sense, violating a statute which prohibits burglary is technically the same as violating a statute which prohibits littering; it's the punishment attached that provides the difference.

 

[Karlzmom]

I understand frustration towards cheats and sneaks and thieves, but I know what is right and wrong as a parent teaching that to my children is a priority, but being the morality police for adults isn't unless I am serving jury duty.

The sad part is that the "average American" has been so cowed into the notion that there is no real right and wrong, "who are you to judge," its not that bigga deal, etc. that EVEN on jury duty they are unable to follow what the law says and make decisions based on what will get them back to their own lives quickest.....

 

[Karlzmom]

I'm a lawyer; I get paid to give large corporations advice on how

I would love for a defendant to walk into a sentencing hearing for simple assault and say, "Your Honor, I know this looks bad...but I really think you should take into account the fact that I didn't kill the victim. That would have been much worse."

I've seen this.....seriously! As a prosecutor, my day is a never-ending stream of self-deluded people trying to justify why their particular strain of anti-social behavior as 1) Reasonable, 2) just - inlight of the circumstances, 3) consistent with their cultural/racial/religious background & the system is "IST" for not accomdating them, 4) not really their fault, becuase they are the victim, or 5) not as bad as X, and don't the police/court/jail have better things to do!

Just about the time I think I've heard everything, I'm stunned again...my personal favorite is the defendant who tries to argue that because they didn't suceed in killing the victim they should get a break. Sadly, some of our more "progressive" judges actually take that junk into consideration.

 

[Tricia1972]

I believe that stealing is not right and am not condoning sip stealers in any way. Everyone needs to be their own moral police.

I think that the sticker idea is great and if it gets to be a big enough problem then they will institute a program such as that. Similar to how Disney now keeps your bio data to prevent ticket sharing and how adult and child credits are now separated for TS meals when on the DDP.

Simply put, I think most people are pretty honest and don't steal soda. Soda doesn't cost Disney anything (as I understand) because Coke gives them the syrup and carbonation for the soda machines.

Cost Benefit is not there for Disney at this time. If everyone begins stealing soda then maybe, but not now.

I have had many giggle reading the silly posts on this thread. You all make an excellent point - someone's stealing is someone else's OK.

 

[mickaholic4077]

I am reminded of two phrases-Judge not,lest ye be judged,and Let he among you who is without sin be the one to cast the first stone.

 

[ntsammy5]

PERFECT

 

[KyDerbyMan]

I try not to drink too many soft drinks each day (try, that is. ) But, if they had dispensers of Propel.....

ha ha ha

 

[*NikkiBell*]

I have never seen people use items other than the refillable mugs at the drink stations. Then again, I do not go to them constantly.

 

[melcan]

Actually,I do my valet parking at The Poly when I go to the MK!!

Catching up on posts,
Just spewed Coke all over the computer

 

[disneybride96]

Soft drinks are very inexpensive. Trying to enforce a refill policy will cost Disney a heck of a lot more than what they are "losing" right now.

Disney trusts their guests to do the right thing. Almost all will.

Granted, it is not Disney but Holiday World her in Indiana had unlimited soft drinks with park admission. They have a water park that is to die for!