Dress Code at Signature Restaurants-Ha!

[JLKennedy]

I didn't look at your links for holey jeans. The written rules say holey jeans and the OP who has spoken to this said that they were tattered, not the fashionable ones they know are trendy right now.

You cannot possibly comment on what I posted unless you looked at the links...look at the hollister links, they are "destroyed" as in their name...and they are the trendy ones. Please look at the link.

In my opinion, the OP probably saw a "teen or young adult" wearing these types of jeans and made her own opinions based on what she saw. Whereas the "younger" population would know what type of jeans they were.

 

[bytheblood]

I am having trouble understanding exactly why you feel the need to pick arguments with like 5 different people on this thread to try and support your view of myob.Is it really my buisness what someone else is wearing? probably not.Does it bother me to the point of losing sleep? not at all.The point is there is a dress code.Just because Disney doesn't always choose to enforce it, doesn't make it right.Nobody was saying to wear a ball gown, it is a tad discouraging when some people take time out and put clothes on that are hole free and clean, while others feel it is ok to come looking like they rolled out of bed.I don't eat at signature places because of my DD, but if I did I would at least have clothes that are hole -free.OT-BTW, there are times in life where it pays to mind more than your buisness..it is called being a good samaritan.

Nice post, RMulieri.

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On another note.....

Thank the Dis for the ignore button!!!

 

[crisi]

We are aware of the "trend" - but trendy and fashionable does not mean its always appropriate. There are a lot of rude behaviors and inappropriateness that get excused because something is "trendy" - its each generations way of making excuses for being rude. I'm 40 and I did it. My father is 60 and he did it.

 

[Tricia1972]

We are aware of the "trend" - but trendy and fashionable does not mean its always appropriate. There are a lot of rude behaviors and inappropriateness that get excused because something is "trendy" - its each generations way of making excuses for being rude. I'm 40 and I did it. My father is 60 and he did it.

Yes I too, even not looking at the links, know of the trend. Contrary to what some may think, I shop in trendy stores and even have some trendy clothes myself.

Trendy isn't always appropriate. Every young generation has their own trends and has to learn to adapt to society and societies rules once they leave the cocoon of high school and college.

Cleavage and bra straps are also trendy, but not appropriate for a job interview. It doesn't matter that your strappy cami cost you $50 - cost isn't the issue - appropriateness is.

Disney's dress code doesn't specify no holes, unless trendy holes. Disney should either enforce or abolish the dress code.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

You cannot possibly comment on what I posted unless you looked at the links...look at the hollister links, they are "destroyed" as in their name...and they are the trendy ones. Please look at the link.

In my opinion, the OP probably saw a "teen or young adult" wearing these types of jeans and made her own opinions based on what she saw. Whereas the "younger" population would know what type of jeans they were.

For the love of Pete! Some of us have clicked on your links and I still disagree with you. Why are you insisting that trendy clothes are necessarily appropriate for fine dining?

 

[JLKennedy]

I am simply stating that a "poster" said that they know trendy jeans, and that wasn't what the OP was referring to. IF you shop at hollister, you know that the "trendy" jeans are the holey ones.

I am not saying that rule breakers are right....I am saying, LET DISNEY POLICE THEIR OWN RESTAURANTS and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

If it hurts Disney's bottom line (money), they will stand behind the rule, like the one they do enforce a V&A's...no kids allowed.

I don't like when other's here pass judgement on everyone else. It came off from the OP when she said, "I rolled my eyes at my husband nodding to the dress code"....to me, that comes off that she perceived herself to be such much better than the individual coming out of the restaurant with a full belly.

Most everyone there is on vacation (I'm sure a few business folks are there), but really, it's not YOURS or MINE or ANYONE else's BUT DISNEY's to enforce their dresscode. You don't agree with it, fine, but Disney didn't object, get over it and move on or stop going.

Feel free to continue to argue over what 1 person (and a lot of other concurred) to be inappropriate clothing at a Disney restaurant....when Disney's had enough, they will enforce it, right now, it's not a priority apparently.

 

[mitros]

Hey, who said the debate board is dead?...."Long live the debate board"!

 

[MainStMandy]

I am simply stating that a "poster" said that they know trendy jeans, and that wasn't what the OP was referring to. IF you shop at hollister, you know that the "trendy" jeans are the holey ones.

I am not saying that rule breakers are right....I am saying, LET DISNEY POLICE THEIR OWN RESTAURANTS and MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

Let's say it again..what does "trendy" have to do with it?? torn is torn is torn. End of story.

And mind your own business?? If I am a patron of a resturaunt with particular guidelines, it is my business...literally.

 

[DVC Sadie]

Just look at the links. It is the new trend, it's called distressed. Hollister is a very big and hot store right now...please look at the hollister link, the jeans are "holey" but trendy.

The distressed look is NOT a new trend, it has been around for years. ( 7 years or longer)

Hollister might be a big and hot store to you but true trendsetters would not be shopping in that store.

It doesn't matter how much a piece of clothing costs if it is not appropriate for the situation, then it's not appropriate, whether its a pair of Armani pants that cost 800.00 a pair or a pair of 90.00 Hollister distressed jeans.

 

[just another guy]

Yes actually I do expect Disney to tell them that. Why make rules and post them if they aren't going to be enforced?

Because no one has the power to enforce the rules. Believe what you want, but its true. All the rules are made by a group of people who sit in a little office and have no idea how it effects the people who deal with it. Be it something small such as the rule that lemons are not allowed to be served in a water anymore(must be served on the side) or be it something bigger, like a dress code.

The level of management is stretched extremely thin. You see a restaurant manager as someone with power, yet all they really do is organize some paperwork at closing time, and spit out some automated responses to guests problems. The only time management gets to flex their weak muscles is with cast members. Oh, look Johnny was 3 minutes later to work, time to write him up!

Like I said, the rules come from WAY higher up. Power is spread so thin, that the level entry managers a normal guests deals with are powerless. A family of 4 walks into a buffet. When they get the check and see the prices, they then insist their daughter sporting a tramp stamp, and a b cup, as well as their son rocking a 5 o'clock shadow are both 9 years old. Management has no power to fight them. Its just easier to cave, and change the bill. 4 grown adults(30+ y/o) get the bill, and are outraged at the price. They complain and tell management is wasn't worth nearly $30 a person, only $15 max. Management comps to adults, and they thus eat for 50%. A family of 8 are upset about the 18%. They had the restaurants best and most popular server, so service isn't in question. Its just the concept of it being forced on them. Its their 1st dinner on a 9 day stay, so this is gonna continue. Management should just tell them to bad, but nope, it will get removed if the guests complain enough.

Management is HIGHLY over worked, and under paid. They truly don't care about anyone, just getting through the day, and do whatever it takes to do so.

 

[DVC Sadie]

Just when I thought I was out of this thread, I allowed myself to be pulled back in.

 

[MainStMandy]

Management is HIGHLY over worked, and under paid. They truly don't care about anyone, just getting through the day, and do whatever it takes to do so.

What a sad life

 

[just another guy]

What a sad life

Its true. The turn over of level entry managers is HUGE. They are paid salary, about 32K or so, yet Orlando isn't exactly a cheap city to live in. They are highly over worked, average 60 hours. A restaurant manager has to be there are early as 6am, and the late night shifts are as late as 2am. Sometimes they work a close shift followed by an open, where its almost pointless to leave as they will only have time for an hour or two sleep before they have to be back.

 

[MainStMandy]

Its true. The turn over of level entry managers is HUGE. They are paid salary, about 32K or so, yet Orlando isn't exactly a cheap city to live in. They are highly over worked, average 60 hours. A restaurant manager has to be there are early as 6am, and the late night shifts are as late as 2am. Sometimes they work a close shift followed by an open, where its almost pointless to leave as they will only have time for an hour or two sleep before they have to be back.

Not to argue with you, but it's pretty assumptive to say that anyone who works management level for a restaurant hates their job and only sleeps one to two hours a night.

 

[just another guy]

Not to argue with you, but it's pretty assumptive to say that anyone who works management level for a restaurant hates their job and only sleeps one to two hours a night.

I'm not saying everyone hates their job, and that 2 hours of sleep is average, but it happens. The facts are that they are highly underpaid, and highly over worked. That combined with the daily complaints of people swearing they made a reservation, people lying about the age of their kids, people complaining about the wait time, people complaining about the crying kid next to them, etc, ETC. Most are only still employeed because disney offers pathetic health insurance, but its something. The pay isn't anything, but with a kid or two, they can't risk leaving and not having health insurance. They can't afford to go back to school, nor do they have the time. Its a dead end, where the only solution is to put one foot after the other, and keep on going.

 

[MainStMandy]

I'm not saying everyone hates their job, and that 2 hours of sleep is average, but it happens. The facts are that they are highly underpaid, and highly over worked. That combined with the daily complaints of people swearing they made a reservation, people lying about the age of their kids, people complaining about the wait time, people complaining about the crying kid next to them, etc, ETC. Most are only still employeed because disney offers pathetic health insurance, but its something. The pay isn't anything, but with a kid or two, they can't risk leaving and not having health insurance. They can't afford to go back to school, nor do they have the time. Its a dead end, where the only solution is to put one foot after the other, and keep on going.

Wow...someone sure is cynical. Do you hate your job/life as much as the people you describe?

Besides the fact, this has nothing to do with Disney's dress code. Disney obviously was attempting to set a standard at their signature restaurants that due to the history of customer service (or lack there of lately) forces them to not ENFORCE this policy...or not consistently at least.

 

[inkkognito]

As the OP, I guess I need to step in yet again and clarify. Even though I am over 40, I am not senile yet and work with enough teens and young adults in my counseling practice to know the difference between trendy jeans and a slob. The person I saw in the restaurant was most definitely the latter.

And once again, my point is not that it bothered me or ruined my meal. It just made me think, "Why do the phone reps. waste my time telling me the dress code, and why do they post it in plain sight, if they're not going to enforce it?"

And whether the jeans are trendy or not, the sign says "No torn jeans," not "No torn jeans unless they are by a known designer and cost more than $X."

 

[disneyfav4ever]

I think since Disney has the dress code, they should enforce it. It's not even that strict!

 

[maxiesmom]

Yes actually I do expect Disney to tell them that. Why make rules and post them if they aren't going to be enforced?

That is the million dollar Disney question. Disney is horrible and enforcing any of its rules, not just the dress code. How many people do you see smoking outside of the DSAs? How many people do you see using refillable mugs from previous trips? How many kids have you seen skating around the parks? Why have the darn rules and not bother to enforce them? My only guess is that they are so worried about offending the offenders, that they just choose not to. It is aggravating.

 

[Uncleromulus]

To read this thread you might get the impression that WDW Signature restaurants are awash with dress code scofflaws. Not so. We do exclusively Signature restaurants--7 of them each trip, twice a year. With the exception of a loose interpretation of "dress shorts" we've seen no dress code violations in the past three years. Certainly no prohibited items-- bathing suits, torn clothes, tank tops. Most people DO comply with the very relaxed code. Now granted we've seen some less than "neat" people--some were downright sloppy, in fact. But they met the code.
It does not suprise me that the occasional code violator is let in and I certainly agree that they should not have been let in. But it isn't the epidemic that the thread seems to suggest.