Dress Code at Signature Restaurants-Ha!

[kaytieeldr]

you make ADRs at one of these restaurants and know the dress code ahead of time

And since the CM tells you when you make that reservation about any dress code - the diner can't claim lack of knowledge.

 

[thegrimdwarf]

I'm not sure that how other people are dressed would affect my experience at an upscale restaurant?

I honestly don't mean to argue, I'm just trying to understand. So if you're getting good service at the CG, good food, and the other people are sitting there in their torn jeans having a pleasant meal, not bothering anyone, that would make you feel like you're at McDonalds? I guess its just a matter of opinion on what would bother some and not others.

It would ruin it for me. It's about atmosphere as much as the food and service at these places. I expect to look around and see a lovely restaurant filled with patrons who are appropriately dressed. Not someone who just stepped off the Kali River Rapids. It's just not appropriate, IMHO, and the fact is that it's not following the dress code. It's too bad that some adults can't dress accordingly.

 

[bkelly65us]

It all comes down to pride in self and appearence.I was recently at a black tie wedding , where several guests were in jeans or sweatpants.The bride was absolutely livid.So if people nowadays will not dress up for a wedding,I doubt a restuarant of any kind will help them see the light.

Wait. What? Sweatpants at a wedding? Shut up. No way!

 

[JLKennedy]

To me, its a sign of general selfishness and incivility. I prefer not to share my space with people who are rude.

So would you feel someone was rude too if they "dined" with their children and their children started whining because the food was taking too long? I mean, isn't it rude to take a child to such a 5 star Zagat rated restaurant?

Since Disney has a dress code for their restaurants, tells you that they have a dress code, posts their dress code at the podium - and since dress codes for restaurants have been enforced for years at upscale restaurants, I suspect the Orlando Sentinel would laugh at the caller and say "did you try Chef Mickey's?"

Read the dress code, jeans are allowed, distressed does not mean holey. Did the OP truly see holes in jeans, or are they the new trendy distressed type, a serious difference, really. I doubt the newspaper would laugh either, they are in a business to sell papers and boy would that head line sell papers and probably cause a serious revolt in "under-dressing" as some say.

And since the CM tells you when you make that reservation about any dress code - the diner can't claim lack of knowledge.

The CM only tells YOU if YOU are the one making the ADR, now, what IF the CM tells your TA and you're TA fails to tell you, the diner CAN AND SHOULD/WOULD CLAIM to not know of any dresscode.

It would ruin it for me. It's about atmosphere as much as the food and service at these places. I expect to look around and see a lovely restaurant filled with patrons who are appropriately dressed. Not someone who just stepped off the Kali River Rapids. It's just not appropriate, IMHO, and the fact is that it's not following the dress code. It's too bad that some adults can't dress accordingly.

I'm sorry, I just don't get it. Why should anyone care what anyone else thinks? To each his own, so long as they are NOT being disruptive. People ARE following the dresscode. What's the difference between a tank top and a cami? One is made of cotton the other of spandex/lycra...but if you were to call the CG, they would tell you that a cami is fine.

Let's not forget, you're in Disney World, kid capitol of the USA, if you wanted grown up time, perhaps WDW wasn't the smartest place to go, especially in the summer when schools out.

 

[inkkognito]

Did the OP truly see holes in jeans, or are they the new trendy distressed type, a serious difference, really.

I am the OP and I know the difference between holey and depressed. These were definitely holey, and I don't mean in a religious way.

 

[disneypolybride2008]

After reading all these posts, i agree with the part about it taking away from the theme of the restaurant. They want it to appear upper class so they want their customers to blend in. They should enforce their rules -which are not very strict. Even though you cant always go back to your resort to change, just dont wear the ripped jeans and flip flops that day.

We're eating at Narcoosee's and i'm still trying to figure out what we're going to wear. It is our honeymoon and our first real married couple meal.
I wonder how long they let us keep the tux for...he could just wear a different shirt. I should wear my wedding dress, lol.

We'll dress nice, but dont super fancy. I dont want to wear my work clothes there though. dont remind me of work!

 

[RMulieri]

Wait. What? Sweatpants at a wedding? Shut up. No way!

I am totally serious.I had to keep rubbing my eyes because I thought I was seeing things.

 

[marmar]

I have known the host or hostess to seat folks inappropriately dressed at "special" tables. IE back in the corner by the door to the kitchen, or just inside the door, Normally where no one wants to sit. Somewhere where they won't "bother" the rest of the guests.

As someone said earlier, I am shocked at what some of the Walkups are wearing at the signature dining places. But since there are seldom tables available, they rarely get in. These folks are totally clueless about the restaurant, so it's not surprising they are clueless about appropriate dress.

 

[crisi]

So would you feel someone was rude too if they "dined" with their children and their children started whining because the food was taking too long? I mean, isn't it rude to take a child to such a 5 star Zagat rated restaurant?

I believe I am on record as saying that if your child is whining to the point of disturbing other diners and you don't remove them - even at Disney where "you expect kids" - you are rude. Many, many times, in fact. But, for clarification:

It is RUDE not to follow the dress code in a restaurant.

It is RUDE to allow your children to disturb other diners - by crying, throwing food, or moving around the restaurant. If this happens, the polite thing to do is to remove your child as quickly as possible without creating additional disturbance.

It is RUDE to get visibly drunk and loud.

Its RUDE to talk about bodily functions loud enough for the next table over to hear.

Its RUDE to abuse your waitstaff.

Its RUDE to abuse your tablemates - even if they are your own spouse and children.

Its RUDE to show up late for your reservation and demand to get seated immediately.

Its RUDE to hold a needed table for an hour after you finished dessert because you really want to watch Wishes and could only get a 6pm reservation.

Its RUDE to make reservations you do not intend to use.

This list is not inclusive of all the possible rude behavior displayed at Disney dining establishments.

 

[dgaston]

With regard to being seated at "special tables," my DS and his DGirlfriend ate at CG in January '08 during that nasty cold snap. They arrived early hoping to catch Wishes at the bar. DS wore a suit and DGF had on a lovely short dress. Not only were they seated early but got a primo MK view table. Andy remarked that he thought it was because they were some of the only people dressed up!

 

[cdtommie]

I'm a pretty casual dresser (usually dress shorts and polo shirt) at all signature restaurants and yes, even twice a year at PFTS (although I did suffer with the jacket at V&A's last year) so I'm pretty tolerant dress code wise but my wife and I saw some people wearing outfits in May at Jiko (a guy wearing a bathing suit), CG and especially the Yachtsman (gym shorts with a full moon view on a woman who came in around 9:45PM with a crying newborn) that had even us rolling our eyes and we usually don't care what others wear. People shouldn't have a problem adhering to the dress code - it's not that demanding.

 

[Peapicker]

Isn't this a trend with Disney, have some rules and then not enforce them. No smoking except in designated areas, mug can only be used for length of stay, dress codes in certain restaurants, not stopping in the middle of an asile for a show, no double booking of ADR's, etc. Rule after rule and yet how many times do we hear or see the rules being bent or broken right in front of cast members. I don't know if the answer is to start to police all these rules with a zero tolerance policy or what but it seems that there is a rule for everyone to break.

My family and I always feel a little better when we eat at a higher end restaurant if we have on the correct attire. But the food does not always taste better (but thats another story).

 

[momof3poohlovers]

We ate dinner at 7:30 PM at the Yachtsman Steakhouse on July 2nd. They obviously must uphold the dress code here because towards the end of our dinner there was a big commotion and I could see several servers laughing and talking about something. Our server came over and I asked what was going on and she said that someone had come in inappropriately dressed(I have no idea what she meant by this, maybe a bathing suit? Who knows!). Anyway, I guess the manager asked him to follow dress code and the furious guest left the restaurant and returned in a dress! I guess he was trying to make a point. I guess he was somewhere in the restaurant actually sitting down at a table in his dress. I never did see the guest but the servers were sure amused by this. I guess the dress code doesn't specify who's supposed to wear the dress! Anyone else there on the 2nd see this?

 

[Chedstro]

Totally OS - dgaston - I moved here to marry my now husband a little over a year ago.

I am trying to get used to the usual heat and humidity. And the "nasty cold snap of Jan 2008" was a major relief to me! My husband went out wearing a hoody and major sweatpants - I, on the other hand, happily ran around in a t-shirt and light weight long pants.

Not to any of the Signature Restaurants, however

 

[Karlzmom]

Not that some don't don't have any class, when it comes to me I have MS and walking alot just doesnt work fo r me so no matter what I wear to the pareks I wear when I go in eating, jeans and a top. This year for Christmas I am eating at AP and that is the hotel I am staying in so I can go change then go to dinner without alot of walking.

First, let me say I can appreciate the difficulties you encounter with MS, the woman who was like a 2d mom to me battled it for years. However, at the end of the day there are a number of choices that have come into play before you or anyone else is at a signature restaurant in "park clothes"....

1st, the booking of the restaurant with the dress code in the 1st place. There are multiple eating establishments that don't require any particular dress, so I don't think its at all unreasonable to have a few that place a minimal expectation in place.

2d, the dovetails with #1, as there is always the option of picking the signature restaurant in a convenient location to avoid time/energy crunches in arriving at the restaurant pressed and dressed.

3d, the time spent before the trip to the restaurant can be spend resting/sleeping/at the spa/or trooping around the park. Some choices may be more conducive to having the time and energy to clean up and change clothes.

You have clearly evaluated the options and found one that will meet your physical needs while complying with the dress code, hence you are behaving graciously and demonstrating class. The classless crew are the ones who are so *me* involved that anything intruding in theirworld is worthy of scorn, and they will do whatever they want...usually while *justifying* their action. Have a great time at the House of Mouse!

 

[angelmav]

I guess I would have been more suprised by this a few days ago. Before the closed thread where any number of people were defending their right to wear Pajammas to get breakfast at their resorts.

From the tone of that thread, I guess I am just happy that folks wear 'anything,' as the process of throwing on shorts and a T was described as being too difficult and time consuming to be expected.

D E C L I N E O F W E S T E R N C I V I L I Z A T I O N ! ! !

 

[Karlzmom]

in the eye of the beholder. What one thinks is "inappropriate", the CM at the podium might think, hey, look at those Lucky or True Religion jeans, how trendy and I know that "he/she" dropped a hundred + dollars on them, so they're not "class-less" people.

You are confusing the ability to spend $$ with the sense to know how to behave appropriately for the situation....it has been said the being gracious is acting just a bit more polite than minimally required. People with class seem to focus more on making others comfortable, or at least not uncomfortable, by their behavior. Classless people look at societal expectations and decide in the end its-all-about-them-anyway and take a basically confrontational stance as they try to see how much they can slide by doing as they please.

People with class are comfortable enough in their own skin that they can abide with restrictions or expectations and not feel they are oppressed, after all, its not about them. Classless people demonstrate their insecurity by screaming for attention to their "individuality" every chance they get, its as though they feel the need to seek a feeling of power in flouting convention.

I have known people without 2 nickels to their name with enormous class, and people with mega-bucks that are about as classless as a person can be.

Regrettably, as a society we seem to have subscribed to the notion that the classless person shouldn't be challenged, as it will inevitably only result in a blow-up, as though the classless person is in the "right," or maybe its just that people have finally signed on to the proverb of "never argue with an idiot, a bystander won't be able to tell the difference!"

 

[Karlzmom]

I'm not sure that how other people are dressed would affect my experience at an upscale restaurant?

I honestly don't mean to argue, I'm just trying to understand. So if you're getting good service at the CG, good food, and the other people are sitting there in their torn jeans having a pleasant meal, not bothering anyone, that would make you feel like you're at McDonalds? I guess its just a matter of opinion on what would bother some and not others.

The reality is that people's behavior is influenced by how they dress. I saw it very clearly when I taught Sunday school...the days I wore my Sunday suit with matching hat, the tone in the class was much more respectful than on a day I would dress more casually...the children responded to the tone set by my dress. The cues I set, and the perception of how serious I was taking the lesson rubbed off. In court, the persons who appear for the their role [attorney/witness/defendant] dressed as though court was an event worthy of the time and effort to polish up a bit inevitably behave more politely, talk more softly, sit without putting their feet on the furniture, etc. By the same token, the ones who show up like its a day at the beach [assuming they have slid in past the bailiff] tend to talk in court, sprawl across seats, answer the judge with a "yea", etc. Is it cause and effect, or simply a function that someone with no clue how to behave isn't going to know how to dress...can't say. Except that the same defendant will behave very differently when they are in jail garb than when they have bailed out and have their shirt and tie on.
Based on the foregoing, I believe the "atmosphere" created will have an effect on the overall experience, and that there are so many places that have no burden placed on the person who just wants to show up in flip-flops and eat, but there absolutely should be experiences for fine dining in a refined atmosphere for people who so choose. Interestingly, those experiences are almost inevitably the most expensive places....so particularly is a person is willing to shell out the extra $$ for the experience, they should be able to have it in peace.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Just to point out that "flip-flops" are not mentioned in the Disney dress code--in fact, footwear of any sort is not mentioned. While you might be able to argue that pool type rubber flip-flops are out (as being "swimwear"), I believe that there are many other styles of that type footwear that would be just fine.
Raidermatt sees the situation just as I do--


http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/dining/diningDetail?id=ArtistPointDiningPage&bhcp=1

 

[JLKennedy]

You are confusing the ability to spend $$ with the sense to know how to behave appropriately for the situation....it has been said the being gracious is acting just a bit more polite than minimally required. People with class seem to focus more on making others comfortable, or at least not uncomfortable, by their behavior. Classless people look at societal expectations and decide in the end its-all-about-them-anyway and take a basically confrontational stance as they try to see how much they can slide by doing as they please.

People with class are comfortable enough in their own skin that they can abide with restrictions or expectations and not feel they are oppressed, after all, its not about them. Classless people demonstrate their insecurity by screaming for attention to their "individuality" every chance they get, its as though they feel the need to seek a feeling of power in flouting convention.

I have known people without 2 nickels to their name with enormous class, and people with mega-bucks that are about as classless as a person can be.

Regrettably, as a society we seem to have subscribed to the notion that the classless person shouldn't be challenged, as it will inevitably only result in a blow-up, as though the classless person is in the "right," or maybe its just that people have finally signed on to the proverb of "never argue with an idiot, a bystander won't be able to tell the difference!"

Look, all I'm trying to say is WHY should anyone care what anyone else is wearing? Don't look at the person if their clothes "offend" you. Just make sure your clothes don't offend someone too. Cheap clothes that bear non-name brand could be offensive to some.

My point is, you're in Disney for G-d's sake....not trying to get into Nobu in NYC. I really couldn't care less what other patrons are wearing, I'm on vacation too and I'm there to enjoy a meal with my family, to dwell on what some people chose to wear. I guess I don't take life so seriously that jeans at a nice (not elegant) restaurant like Disney's sig. are (except V&A) doesn't offend me. None of us are guaranteed tomorrow, why waste your breath and energy on being upset with what someone else wears?