Double/Triple Booking Ressies?

[lync]

I have had a hard time getting the ressies I want and I was told that since people have been able to book online, people are double and triple booking ressies. There's no safeguard yet. I guess people are doing it until they decide exactly what they want.

Has anyone else been told this. I'm just wondering of things might open up.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Momto2PrncChrmgs]

I've heard on some of the boards that some have had ALL of their ressies cancelled because the system saw them as double booking. I'm sure there are ways around that, but hopefully people will just be nice and only book what they need.

 

[rgf207]

This has been a big problem but people that are doing this have been having all ADR's for that time frame cancelled or worse, all ADR's for their trip cancelled for this reason

Disney is cracking down on this more than ever.

I don't think the "system" is cancelling adr's but rather flagging them for review by CM's. If the CM deems your ADR to be double booked, they MAY cancel them. But if you have, say, 4 people on your reservation and you have 2 ADR's for 2 people each, then you are not double booked.

 

[abarry90]

What are they considering double booking? If I book 2 different restaurants at different times on the same day, (say one for 5:40 and one at 8:55?) is that double booking? That doesn't seem fair. But having two dinner reservations at the same restaurant on the same day, that I could see would be pretty clearly double booking.

The cancelling all ressies thing makes me nervous! I did go ahead a release a couple I was pretty sure I didn't need, but I am holding out on one double booking in case I get a better time on a different day. 8:55 is a pretty late time for a 5 year old but I would take that over not eating at Boma at all! If I have to I will buy him dinner earlier somewhere else and he can sleep through dinner in the stroller like he did last year

On the other hand, I don't want to release my 6:40 Tusker House ressie that day yet, in case I find a better Boma time on a different day. At this point I will never get that time back.

I WILL promise to release it at least 2 weeks prior though. I wouldn't be so rude as to hold it that close to the date.

In the mean time, I am checking several times daily to get it changed ASAP so I can release that one last double booking ASAP!

 

[parkers*momma]

To me, double booking would be booking any restaurant when you have another one already booked for that meal. It wouldn't matter if it was at the same one or not...wouldn't matter if it was at the same time or not...but for the same meal, it should matter.

Booking a 5:00pm at Crystal Palace and a 7:00pm at Ohana, then deciding which one to to keep. No one is going to eat a full meal at 5:00pm and another full meal at 7:00pm.

I really think ppl are doing this and then deciding which one to go to later. Yet what they don't realize is by "HOLDING" on a ressie, they are making it extremely difficult for someone else to use it.

I can see it now...A person can't get Coral Reef for 9/10..at an time during that day...yet when you go to Cr on 9/10 the restaurant is only 1/2 full because those holding two ressie decided to eat at another establishment...

The system is wacked right now. They need to be tied to your ressie (online isn't unless you use the same phone number as your ressie-if you use a different number-like a cell it isn't tied to your ressie. I found this out the hard way) or make all ressies a credit card hold or create a system that will not allow the munipulation of the system.

BTW: I was fortunate to get all our ressies but feel bad for those who can't even make one for their trip. Again, I feel it has something to do with holding ressies until a person decides which one works best for their plans.

 

[disnut8]

People have always been able to double book. It's just that if they wanted to do that, they would have to invest the expense of calling. Of course, with cell phones and unlimited long distance plans, the expense for most people was nothing. So, people could do it before. The only difference now is you are not talking to a live person but doing it on your own at the computer keyboard.

Disney expects people to act honestly. In everything. You aren't asked for proof of age for tickets, you are taken on your word for just about everything. Making dining reservations should be no different.

 

[ROEDISNEY]

I think double booking is so rude. And I do hope that it is true that Disney does take away your ADR's if you do this.

 

[eliza61]

I think double booking folks is one of the "evils" that come along with the package.

Free dining is now darn near all year long so you've got that many more people vying for the same amount of TS.

People have huuuge expectations for their disney vacations, even with the discounts it's a major investment of dough. So if they aren't absolutely sure of where they will be say on 8/21 chances are they will hedge their bets and book 2 different ADR's "just in case"

Come on, look at this board, look at obsessed we get with getting ADR's. It's almost a olympic sport. I'm not surprised at the double booking. If some one "can't decide" at 90 days out, do you think they are going to take a chance and not book. Nope, they will book 2 ressies, with the mind set, I'll cancel later.

I have co workers who do this all the time with absolutely no guilty feelings what so ever. most feel that the system forces you to cover yourself.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

I think double booking is so rude. And I do hope that it is true that Disney does take away your ADR's if you do this.

ITA

But its been done before online ADR's were available and will continue to be done as long as there are dishonest people going to WDW. It is another example of the continuned down hill slide of honesty & courtesy in the general public.

edited to add: if you want those ADR's that bad then make them 90 days out. With the exception of a VERY few places if you are on the phone/online at 7am/i hear 3 am online when your 90 day window opens you will get them and won't need to double book and keep others from getting anything that may be available.

 

[eliza61]

ITA

But its been done before online ADR's were available and will continue to be done as long as there are dishonest people going to WDW. It is another example of the continuned down hill slide of honesty & courtesy in the general public.

edited to add: if you want those ADR's that bad then make them 90 days out. With the exception of a VERY few places if you are on the phone/online at 7am/i hear 3 am online when your 90 day window opens you will get them and won't need to double book and keep others from getting anything that may be available.

I don't think it's a matter of not getting where they want, I think it's a matter of them "hedging their bets" so to speak. They plan on being at the MK on Thursday but their not sure, they may be at Epcot so they make an ADR at both places to cover every eventuality.

This happens to me alot, not the double booking but I plan on being at one park and for whatever reason we end up some where else and I forget to cancel my ADR. That's why I rarely make more than 1 or 2. August of 07 my whole family went and we had about 10 dinner ADR's and only made 2. of course by the time we decide not to go to dinner it's about 30 mins before the appointed time.

 

[dioxide45]

I have checked online and saw an availabilty I thought we might want instead of what we had, so I booked it, opting to let my wife make the ultimate decision. She cancelled the ones we didn't want a couple days later. I don't see a problem with this, though we cancelled pretty quickly. I am sure there are some people who would hold both for a month or more.

 

[GraceLuvsWDW]

The problem with this time of year is that your plans have to be written in stone 90 days before your vacation. That's getting a bit ridiculous imo. I thought about cancelling my entire ressie in Sept and going AFTER FD because I hate that I can't change my park for a day and find somewhere decent to eat! I'm wishing I HAD double booked.

 

[Pumbaa_]

this same discussion hapens every single year - the plain truth of the matter is while crowds are down, the majority of people have 1 ts meal a day.

if it was solely about online bookings, then this would not have been an issue last year. But it was and continues to be for the same restaurants all the time

and please, there is no need to call people dishonest with nothing to back it up. It is what it is, and the same thing happens every year, and at all busy times of the year.

 

[Hannathy]

What are they considering double booking? If I book 2 different restaurants at different times on the same day, (say one for 5:40 and one at 8:55?) is that double booking? That doesn't seem fair. But having two dinner reservations at the same restaurant on the same day, that I could see would be pretty clearly double booking.

The cancelling all ressies thing makes me nervous! I did go ahead a release a couple I was pretty sure I didn't need, but I am holding out on one double booking in case I get a better time on a different day. 8:55 is a pretty late time for a 5 year old but I would take that over not eating at Boma at all! If I have to I will buy him dinner earlier somewhere else and he can sleep through dinner in the stroller like he did last year

On the other hand, I don't want to release my 6:40 Tusker House ressie that day yet, in case I find a better Boma time on a different day. At this point I will never get that time back.

I WILL promise to release it at least 2 weeks prior though. I wouldn't be so rude as to hold it that close to the date.

In the mean time, I am checking several times daily to get it changed ASAP so I can release that one last double booking ASAP!

You ARE double booking!!!!!

And what good is 2 weeks out? Most people who plan don't want to leave home without at least something booked so you are preventing a whole lot of families from getting the reservation they maybe really wanted and settling on something else by being selfish.

 

[mom2rtk]

What are they considering double booking? If I book 2 different restaurants at different times on the same day, (say one for 5:40 and one at 8:55?) is that double booking? That doesn't seem fair. But having two dinner reservations at the same restaurant on the same day, that I could see would be pretty clearly double booking.

The cancelling all ressies thing makes me nervous! I did go ahead a release a couple I was pretty sure I didn't need, but I am holding out on one double booking in case I get a better time on a different day. 8:55 is a pretty late time for a 5 year old but I would take that over not eating at Boma at all! If I have to I will buy him dinner earlier somewhere else and he can sleep through dinner in the stroller like he did last year

On the other hand, I don't want to release my 6:40 Tusker House ressie that day yet, in case I find a better Boma time on a different day. At this point I will never get that time back.

I WILL promise to release it at least 2 weeks prior though. I wouldn't be so rude as to hold it that close to the date.

In the mean time, I am checking several times daily to get it changed ASAP so I can release that one last double booking ASAP!

Yes, that is double booking. I'd keep an eye on all your ADRs if you have any set up like this.

 

[Chris and Pooh]

I think double booking is so rude. And I do hope that it is true that Disney does take away your ADR's if you do this.

I have double booked at Epcot on the same day, one booking is at Chefs de France for 20:05 for 4 and one at The Rose and Crown for 19:50 for 2.

Why? Because one table is for me and the other table is for my DSiL and her DH as a surprise for them, would you still wish to apply the above and feel the same way?

 

[Chris and Pooh]

Perhaps with the continuing problems associated with ADR's, DDP etc, the best and fairest way would be to only make bookings whilst staying at the resorts of for those off site, at the parks on the day, making it a relatively level playong field for all, especially those who are first timers and are unaware of the 90 day rule, ADR's and booking online, who arrive for a magical vacation only to find they cant make a booking as every where is full

 

[mom2rtk]

Perhaps with the continuing problems associated with ADR's, DDP etc, the best and fairest way would be to only make bookings whilst staying at the resorts of for those off site, at the parks on the day, making it a relatively level playong field for all, especially those who are first timers and are unaware of the 90 day rule, ADR's and booking online, who arrive for a magical vacation only to find they cant make a booking as every where is full

And how magical would it be to start every day standing in line with others vying for those coveted ADR's????? I don't know about you, but I don't think it would be very pretty.....

Our desire for less crazy planning does NOT diminish the demand for these venues.

Several small things will solve all of this:

1) Go back to 180 days
2) Program the system not to allow double booking
3) require a CC guarantee on all bookings.

POOF! Problem solved..... No fist fights at the concierge stand needed.....

 

[Chris and Pooh]

And how magical would it be to start every day standing in line with others vying for those coveted ADR's????? I don't know about you, but I don't think it would be very pretty.....

Our desire for less crazy planning does NOT diminish the demand for these venues.

Several small things will solve all of this:

1) Go back to 180 days
2) Program the system not to allow double booking
3) require a CC guarantee on all bookings.

POOF! Problem solved..... No fist fights at the concierge stand needed.....

That still does not help those 1st timers who are totally unaware of the booking procedures, those who do not hold CC's.
As far as I am aware Disneyland does not accept reservations for table service and neither does EuroDisney, does that make them any less magical

 

[mom2rtk]

That still does not help those 1st timers who are totally unaware of the booking procedures, those who do not hold CC's.
As far as I am aware Disneyland does not accept reservations for table service and neither does EuroDisney, does that make them any less magical

Disneyland DOES accept "reservations" for their TS locations. But they are more of a day tripper destination, and the demand is not as high.

The first timers will learn the same way I did, but hopefully won't make the same mistake twice, just as I have not. If it's an important part of their experience, they will ask questions , find out and plan ahead like everyone else.

For every first timer we "save" a spot for, someone else who did their homework will have to step aside, which is not fair.

The demand for these venues is great, much greater than it was even a few short years ago. None of what has been suggested will diminish that demand.

I'm really not sure why someone who does their research and homework should be expected to step aside for someone who did not.